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Who and what is Sean ADL Tabatabai?

Posted in Media by Earthling on February 7, 2014

David Icke and “The People’s Voice” has certainly come under fire in recent times – not least by me. I can assure you (and hope you recognise) that there has been good, solid, evidenced reason for that.

The OFCOM issue is just one but it is the most major one by far. It seems, however, that David Icke and TPV followers just simply refuse to get it, see it, acknowledge it, yet it is fundamental and how they can ignore their “hero” demanding of them that they just do a “non comply dance” when faced with the words “You must comply” by what we all know to be a corrupt government and establishment, then see that same “hero” comply at the first instance, to the very power he should be non complying with, is just pure cognitive dissonance. You ignore this entirely. You demand of people “What are you doing about all of this?”, “What have you done?” etc as if TPV and David Icke & friends have done anything. At the first hurdle, they comply. They have done nothing but set up a “TV” broadcasting station for their own ends. They are media people. That is what they do.

So what is it that is wrong with people? Why is it they cannot see what is right in front of their faces? WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??

Anyhow, moving on… I’ve given you some input previously about this individual, Sean ADL Tabatabai. I mentioned the Magus Media company being wound down – and it is. However, I have just, up until now, looked at it all superficially in the sense that I have just looked at the company as a going concern (or otherwise), I have also brought up Tabatabai’s connections with globalist institutions (people ignore this too yet it is all fact). But here, I wish to bring one or two other factors to the table. Partly looking at ANOTHER company which Tabatabai was Director of just a few short years ago for about the same length of time he has been Director of Magus Media. Coincidence that these companies just last approx 2 years before being shelved?

Yet, he is the “Guardian of the ethos”. If you’re a guardian of it, then yes, you protect it but it can also suggest that you don’t reveal it because I, for one, have no clue what that ethos is when you’ve not meant to comply according to a certain twat’s ethos but he goes ahead and complies. Not guarded too well in that instance then is it?

Sean Pagan

Remember (or don’t, it’s entirely up to you) – this is the guy you are sending donations to. He is the ONLY Director of TPV. Yet, you don’t know the first thing about this guy? You know more about me! Would you send thousands of pounds to me? Certainly not! So why are you letting go your money to a guy who has started and wound up two companies in the space of 5 years? Not only that, you have no inkling as to who this guy is! None at all! Am I living in the Twilight Zone or something? Are people truly this gullible?

Here, once more, is Magus Media:

Magus

This is happening as we speak. He is dissolving this company. I went into the reasons why I think he may be doing that in a previous blog. If you look at the cash at bank plus the assets and liabilities, it is pretty clear.

But then there is this. Something I had picked up before but hadn’t looked at at all. Until now.

He had another Media company called The Commonage Ltd. He was a founder along with Miki Zoric.

Sean commonage 2

AGAIN, this company lasted a couple of years before it was struck off.

Sean commonage 3You might notice there was a change in Credit score for the company. Was it because the credit score had improved? 🙂

Why was it struck off? Well it could just be that there were outstanding County Court Judgements against it! “Possible Adverse Information”:

Sean commonage 1

What does “Possible Adverse Information” mean?

Duedil Adverse info

Now, you have to ask yourself: Have you ever watched “Rogue Traders”? Do you think it just applies to Builders etc?

Before you choose a builder or a double glazing company or whatever, do you check their background? You don’t? Well you damned well should!

So here you are sending money for other people to set up their very own broadcasting business for nothing (hasn’t cost them a cent), you don’t know them. They tell you what their ethos and philosophy is AND YET even when they do the opposite (OFCOM) you STILL believe them! And you STILL send them your money! AND you call yourself “Awake”? You just think you are! You’re actually sleepwalking!

However, this all gets deeper. Consider the connections I mentioned before – the globalist ones of Tabatabai. Now consider the NAMES you are faced with. Up until now, I had ignored this aspect as being a little “off the wall” – ADL Tabatabai; muslim. So what? But then you do a little searching of names and definitions because you see, first of all, a MEDIA company called “The Commonage Ltd” and your eyebrows raise simply because it is a very strange, non punchy media-style name to have for a media company. In fact, it is so non inspiring that it makes you think of “Werther’s originals”!!

That company name has had a reason behind it. What could it be? Common = Communism? Community? One people? One religion? Breaking down barriers? Faith foundation? One world? (think about his links with the globalist educational group) the age= New age, change, change agent?

Ok, so we’re speculating here. I grant you that but that is a STRANGE name for a media company!

So let’s turn to “Magus”. Magus Media. Ok, perhaps a LITTLE more “catchy” using MM. But Magus? What exactly does “Magus” mean or signify?

Let’s take a look:

Magus 2

Most people in the modern day know the Christian story behind Christmas; Mary and Joseph can’t get a room at the inn, and Jesus is born in the barn. Just after he’s born, surrounded by his parents and the animals, three wise men come bearing gifts. All we know about these men is that they’re from afar, and they have great skills at perceiving the coming of a new king. We also know that the word used to describe them is magi, which means that these men were learned in more than reading the stars.

Magi is the plural form of magus, a word which came into popular use around the year 1200 a.d. Magus, according to the Online Etymology Dictionary, takes its cue from the Greek word “magos,” which refers back even further to the Old Persian word “magush.” The original definition of these words uses them to refer to the priest caste of the Persian empire; men who were learned clerics in Zoroastrianism, which is said by some to have been the first true monotheistic faith. Begun at least as far back as the sixth century a.d., Zoroastrianism and Judaism are historically similar in age and they’ve been vying for oldest worshipers of a single god for centuries.

If we update the usage of the word magus though, it’s used to refer to a person that is learned in the ways of magick, someone similar to a sorcerer or a witch. Just crack any online dictionary, that’s what you’ll see. In fact many people have taken on the title of magus in more modern settings as a way of making them seem learned in secret arts; men like Aleister Crowley or Edgar Cayce have had this title used to describe them. After the occult revolution of the 1960s, and before that in the spiritualism craze of the lat 19th and early 20th century, magus was lumped in with all of the other occult terms and phrases which are now being used interchangeably to describe those that have a mastery of magic or secret arts that others are not privy to.

As the word magus has evolved, so too has its usage. Originally a term for holy men who served perhaps one of the most powerful religions of its time, the word eventually fell to describe those who were learned magicians, and then finally it was co-opted by members of occult societies like the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn or Stella Matutina, and now today it’s just one more synonym for a magician. However, it’s important to remember that the origins of words can alter what they mean, and that knowing the difference between a magus and a sorcerer, a witch, a warlock or a wizard can be an impressive piece of knowledge to possess.

So, on one hand, we could be looking at a Zoroastrian and, on the other, we could consider that he is an Aleister Crowley adherent. Also interesting that it has connections into the Golden Dawn. And yet, of all the names of companies this little twat could come up with, he uses the word “Magus”.

Zoroastrianism /ˌzɒrˈæstriənɪzəm/, also called ZarathustraismMazdaism and Magianism, is an ancient Iranian religion and a religious philosophy. It was once the state religion of the AchaemenidParthian, and Sasanian empires. Estimates of the current number of Zoroastrians worldwide vary between 145,000 and 2.6 million.

Zoroastrianism arose in the eastern region of the ancient Persian Empire, when the religious philosopher Zoroaster simplified the pantheon of early Iranian gods into two opposing forcesAhura Mazda (Illuminating Wisdom) and Angra Mainyu (Destructive Spirit) in the 7th century BCE. (Illuminating and destructive?)

Zoroaster’s ideas led to a formal religion bearing his name by about the 6th century BCE and have influenced other later religions including JudaismGnosticismChristianity and Islam

Now, we know, from Tabatabai’s own words that he despises christianity. Let’s just review that for the sake of those who may not have seen it:

Another nice little tweet from the "enlightened" Sean Tabatabai

Another nice little tweet from the “enlightened” Sean Tabatabai

Now Tabatabai may be muslim born and even, partially, bred just as I was catholic. But just as I no longer adhere to any religion (but I don’t hate anyone of any religion), as you can see, this guy has a fervent hatred of christianity and prefers paganism. I’ve now noticed quite a few “truther” sites and people who are promoting paganism. David icke is doing precisely that. But that’s just a wrapper so to speak. There are a hell of a lot of agendas in this TPV thing and they ain’t good. I read somewhere just today, someone saying there was conflicting stories between my experience in TPV and those of Sharon Giffords. Not true. The commenter stated I was talking about there being a “feminist” agenda promulgated by TPV (and there is) while Sharon was saying that comments made in the studio were very sexist. There is NO conflict there! What you are confused about is very simple: The agenda of TPV in broadcasting to the world via its output is anti heterosexual male and that is being pushed for a political end while the sexist remarks are personnel within TPV just being twats. These people do not believe what they are saying or promoting but what they promote corporately is to achieve a goal! Do you think the Rockefellers promoted feminism because they are interested in women? Because they like women and feel sorry for their “predicament”? NO! Don’t be so fricking naive! Do you think the British government promote and accept the immigration into the UK because they care for muslims and poles and Eastern Europeans? NO! Don’t be so fricking naive! Is the gay rights movement, from a state and government perspective, because these people feel for the “predicament” of gays? NO! Don’t be so fricking naive! Do you think children’s rights are because the establishment care about children? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Back to “MAGUS” for a moment:

The John Fowles book “THE MAGUS” –

magcover

‘The Magus’ tells the tale of a young Englishman, Nicholas d’Urfe who takes up a job as a schoolmaster on a Greek island, Phraxos where he meets a rich and mysterious character called Conchis .

Urfe becomes embroiled in the psychological illusions of a master trickster, which become increasingly dark and serious.

Nicholas is gradually drawn into Conchis’s psychological games, his paradoxical views on life, his mysterious persona, and his eccentric masques. At first, Nicholas takes these posturings of Conchis, what the novel terms the “godgame,” to be a joke, but they grow more elaborate and intense. Nicholas loses his ability to determine what is real and what is artifice.

Conchis embroils Nicholas in ever increasing bizarre ‘masques’, such as a fake Nazi execution and a false ritual involving men and women in strange costumes similar to the Black Mass scene from ‘Eyes Wide Shut’, as well as a the fake suicide of his girlfriend . Click Wikipedia for a fuller review . At the end, it is revealed all the games are intended to give Nicholas a deeper insight into himself and ‘Life’ .

Doesn’t that sum up what David Icke and Sean ADL Tabatabai are doing rather well to their audience? I’d say so. I’d put money on it that this is precisely why Tabatabai decided to name his media company “MAGUS”.

I am very suspicious of the veracity of recent news stories such as Boston, Woolwich and the Syrian chemical attack and believe that we may be caught up in a similar sort of game as described in ‘The Magus’, but without the good intention of Conchis . We are manipulated to react in certain ways to these events, so that agendas can be fulfilled .

But ultimately, I think the aim is ‘spiritual’ rather than money and power . Behind all the ‘flickering pixels’ that we see in the media, is a force that is just as strong and inflexible in its spiritual beliefs as the most extreme Christian, Moslem, Jewish, etc fundamentalist, which is endeavouring to bring in not only a change in the way the world is governed but a new spiritual perspective and maybe it’s always been so . It believes in Might is Right, the love of Death, the supremacy of the physical over the spiritual and hatred of true Love .

Every aspect of what they do within these seemingly separate agendas, is to destroy the fabric of society and to destroy the “nuclear family”. Do you think any of it means they will, personally, act accordingly? NO! So get your heads working for christ’s sakes!

TPV is a change agent and Sean ADL Tabatabai and David Icke are attempting to do exactly that! What’s with the poofs, Edwina Curry and pornstars on the shows? You’re getting led by the balls (if you have any).

Lastly, the name Tabatabai:

Tabatabai is a very specific branch of the Saadaat with Imam al-Hasan in the patrilineal ascent via his son, Hasan al-Muthanna.

The number of Hasani Saadaat, like the Tabatabais, are far fewer than the Husayni Saadaat. The former (Hasani Saadaat) include the Hashemite Jordanian Royal Family.

Tabatabai is part of the Hasani Saadaat bloodline group and as such are descendants of Hasan ibn Ali, eldest grandson of the Islamic Prophet Mohammed.

Sean’s full surname translates as God’s justice delivered through the line of Mohammed.

adl = god’s justice.
Tabatabai = one of the Hasani Saadaat bloodlines.

You have a poor sense of smell if you don’t smell something rotting in all of this.

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  1. Crystali said, on February 7, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    “”So what is it that is wrong with people? Why is it they cannot see what is right in front of their faces? WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??”

    It’s obvious, people seem to not be able to resist the gravitational pull toward celebrity’ism’. I don’t think many people that follow ‘them’ really care at all about the world situation, that’s why they follow, they need something to follow like football, need something to cling to, the showmanship of it all. They then go and tell their friends they know everything because they follow Icke and his merry men and have learned it all.

    It’s funny really, now I’ll be criticised for criticising.
    Mark, you are probably wasting your breath, or energy at least, they need their fix of celebrity fun, they don’t want truth, it’s not fun enough with not a big enough crowd.

  2. Walter Sham said, on February 7, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    I know that Sean worked (works??) for MTV Europe and the company that makes the inane, social-conditioning PROGRAMME that is known as ‘Big Brother’. He’s a hypocrite, a coward; and he is morally bankrupt!

  3. dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    Earthlinggb, I would be grateful if you could clarify your views on homosexuality. Just for the record and to be absolutely clear.

    I enjoy reading your posts however your use of the term ‘poofs’ in this piece may be interpreted as homophobic by some.

    Many thanks…

    • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 9:43 pm

      I use the word “poofs” because it is a descriptive word for decades used to describe a guy who either (or both) liked to suck cock or take cock up his arse. I use the word “poofs” because I am sick to the teeth of the government(s) dictating to us what words and use of language is acceptable and what is not. There is no such thing as “freedom of expression … except this, and this oh and this..”
      Meanwhile a phobia is something one is frightened of. I’m not frightened of gays (unless they attack me with clubs or a gun and want to stick their cocks up my arse). I’m Homo-contrarian. Contrarian is to have a difference of opinion. Homosexuals’ opinion is that homosexuality is natural. What utter bullshit is that? And don’t even try to say it is. Plug socket. Sexual organs basic use is to procreate. Ever seen a baby drop out a guy’s arse? I am also homo-contrarian to the political and legal agenda which is behind the entire gay marriage and acceptance (legally) of all the gay rights. They have a right to be as perverted (a perversion is something contrary to nature) as they wish BUT, mark my words, the ongoing agenda of the New World Order and the governments who are pushing all of these rights for unnatural acts, is leading to rights for paedophilia and the acceptance of it. Not today yet but soon. Mark my words.
      So, they can stick their cocks wherever they wish but do you see hetero pride marches? You ask a gay if he likes the idea of pussy and he’ll soon display what he thinks of that. Somehow no-one finds that either anti hetero or anti female – funny that isn’t it? While so many women just “love” their gay friends. But, as a heterosexual man, you state the idea of cock makes you wanna puke and the gay community and the apologists will growl and jump on it to label you a homophobe. Fuck em! (not literally). Clear enough?

      • Crystali said, on February 7, 2014 at 9:56 pm

        Well that was very graphic… … I can’t finish my banana now. LOL

        • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:07 pm

          LOL. It was meant to be. You GOTTA say it how it is. That’s what they do isn’t it? But you see part of the politically correct agenda is to disallow actual descriptions of big erect male cocks slipping up a bum boy’s bottom (who has hopefully taken his poppers). Because then it subtracts a little from the nice packaged idea of two men “in love”. Get my point? I’m sure you do!

          • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:53 pm

            Earthlinggb… “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

            Study examines the roots of homophobia…
            A new study suggests intense hostility toward homosexuals may be linked to a repressed same-sex attraction, combined with an authoritarian upbringing.

            http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-04-03/homophobia-psychology/54082202/1?csp=34news

            • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:04 pm

              Oh christ here we go! If you are heterosexual to the core it must mean you have latent homosexual tendencies. You’re bringing out whatever bullshit you can lay your hands on now “brother”. Go try and convert a few priests. You might have better luck!

              • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:12 pm

                I know many heterosexuals ‘to the core’ as you put it that are NOT homophobic. In fact those most comfortable with their sexuality tend to be more accepting.

              • daholduk said, on February 27, 2015 at 12:00 pm

                You’re the one using graphic homo-erotic word images to degrade homosexuals, screams latent homosexual to me. Do you type with one hand? Do you view heterosexual (legal) teen porn?
                Classic distraction tactic to refer to peodophile priests. Yes they are abnormal abominations but that is what you get when you enforce celibacy through religion.
                Most (nearly all, because I am a realistic non-generalist) gay men find such vile acts abhorrent too; doubly so because it provides ammunition to small minded people like you to use against them.

      • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:09 pm

        Thank you for the clarification Earthlinggb. Yes, absolutely clear. In my opinion you are bigoted homophobe.

        Have you ever considered that homosexuality has more to do with whom you LOVE as opposed to where you stick your cock? Why the fixation on a sexual act?

        Please also define natural. If you mean ‘existing in or derived from nature’ then you’ll find many, MANY examples of homosexuality in the natural world.

        • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:16 pm

          But I’d have to be in your opinion Dharmabro. You could never in a million years acknowledge or accept anything else. If there’s any room left in that asshole, why don’t you try sticking your opinion up it too? I’m not here to win a “Mr Personality” contest.

          • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:29 pm

            Fabulous… when an argument fails resort to insults. You are a part of the problem… NOT the solution. For someone who purports to be ‘awake’ you’ve a lot of hatred. Only had to scratch the surface and your true colours have been laid bare for all to see. Remember ‘Infinite Love Is All There Is, Everything Else Is An Illusion.’ May I suggest you practise what you preach otherwise you are NO BETTER than David Icke and his ilk.

            • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:35 pm

              LOL. “Infinite love…..” I never said that. Icke did. And he’s full of shit so I wouldn’t stick my dick up his ass if I were you. I’m not being insulting Dharmabro. I’m just saying it how it is. I DO practice what I preach. I have said you and your ilk can do whatever you wish. I won’t stop you. How more reasonable can one be than that? But what YOU want is “Oh I think the lovely little poofs are all just in love, sweet and it’s all just lovely. I see sucking cock is just another expression of infinite love. Let’s all go for a lollipop!”

              • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:41 pm

                Again, why the fixation on SEX?! It says a lot about you Earthlinggb. In my opinion you are a deluded fool. I hope many of your readers take time to read your comments (if you are brave enough to have them remain) and come to their own conclusions about you. I most certainly have.

        • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:24 pm

          Notice it’s all in the animal kingdom! It started with a zoo, what does that tell you? I”m not zoo phobic either but I am zoo-contrarian. There’s guys in South America that fuck Donkeys Dhamabro. Let’s allow them to marry their favourite ass! Next we’ll have people taking special holidays in asia and swimming with the dolphins. Once they get an erection for them then we might have Sean’s idea of the bus smelling like fish for real. I wonder where the wedding ring would go on a dolphin? But watch out because Dolphins have now been given “legal person” status in India so don’t travel to Sri Lanka or off the coast of Chennai for a spot of “tiffing” otherwise you might have a dolphin take you to court for rape.

          • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:31 pm

            That’s just laughable. I actually thought you were an intelligent chap. Obviously not.

            • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:50 pm

              I’m glad you enjoyed it. I had fun writing it! 🙂

              “Should the age of consent be reduced to 14, to end the criminalisation of young people of similar ages who have consenting sex?…..One option would be to keep the age of consent at 16, but decriminalise sex involving youths aged 14-16, providing both partners consent and there is no more than two or three years difference in their ages…..This would, for example, end the criminalisation of two 15 year olds, while continuing to prohibit sex between 15 year olds and 50 year olds.” – Peter Tatchell.

              Now, this is EXTREMELY simple to understand: If you start to lower the age such that you are saying a 14 yr old child can be fully capable of giving their consent, then a 14 yr old child MUST be deemed as being just as capable of giving consent to a 50 year old. And THAT is where the underhanded progress of the agenda keeps creeping. And my guess is YOU are a supporter of Tatchell.
              He is bringing paedophilia in through the backdoor (no pun intended).

              Further, the piss artist has this to say about heterosexuals. But YOU will say this ISN’T hate speech and heterophobic won’t you?

              “Queers deviate from traditional masculinity. We reject the orthodox model of what it is to be a man. By so doing, we are sexual subversives who unravel the straight machismo that underpins all relations of oppression and exploitation….Traditional hetero masculinity oppresses women and gay people, with sexist jibes, domestic violence, rape, homophobic taunts and queer-bashing assaults. It is also a source of the toughness and aggression that makes possible the social violence of racist attacks, police brutality, war and torture.”

              So, it’s perfectly ok for the gays to attack heaters with all sorts of allegations of crap while, ironically, here is a hetero (me) trying to look out for the safety of kids against sexual predators and the homo is trying to reduce the age of consent and protect them less.

              Don’t fuck with me Dharmabro. I don’t take shit from the likes of you!

              • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:54 pm

                Earthlinggb… “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

                Study examines the roots of homophobia…
                A new study suggests intense hostility toward homosexuals may be linked to a repressed same-sex attraction, combined with an authoritarian upbringing.

                http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-04-03/homophobia-psychology/54082202/1?csp=34news

              • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:55 pm

                And neither do I take shit from the likes of you.

              • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:07 pm

                Richard Ryan, a professor of psychology at the University of Rochester, co-authored a study that looks at the roots of homophobia and how this attitude is more pronounced in individuals with an unacknowledged attraction to the same sex and who grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires. The study is the first to document the role that both parenting and sexual orientation play in the formation of intense and visceral fear of homosexuals, including self-reported homophobic attitudes, discriminatory bias, implicit hostility towards gays, and endorsement of anti-gay policies. The study was conducted by a team from the University of Rochester, the University of Essex, England, and the University of California in Santa Barbara.

                • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:15 pm

                  Nobel Prize winner George Bernard Shaw:

                  So you have two Assholes talking shit. But you use whichever asshole supports your agenda asshole don’t you? Do you agree with a Nobel Prize winner too?

                  • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:21 pm

                    I have no agenda.

                    • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:27 pm

                      And neither do I!! Get that in your thick skull! I don’t CARE what you are. I care what your “group” do politically and your constant bleating like the “jews” about the holocaust. Why don’t you ask them why they don’t bleat about the NAZI treatment of gays? If only there had been a gay holocaust then you’d have far more political clout eh? Perhaps you should all find out how many of you are jews and THEN start a “jewish/gay pride movement”. That would work!

                    • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:42 pm

                      I refer to your comment below. I see you have removed the ability for me to reply. Censorship?!

                      earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:27 pm
                      And neither do I!! Get that in your thick skull! I don’t CARE what you are. I care what your “group” do politically and your constant bleating like the “jews” about the holocaust. Why don’t you ask them why they don’t bleat about the NAZI treatment of gays? If only there had been a gay holocaust then you’d have far more political clout eh? Perhaps you should all find out how many of you are jews and THEN start a “jewish/gay pride movement”. That would work!

                      ————————————–

                      Not only homophobic but an anti semite too! What a lovely person you are. Truthseeker for Humanity?! Don’t make me laugh! You’re a bigoted fool masquerading as a truth seeker. Like I say, you are part of the problem, not the solution.

                    • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:51 pm

                      You’ve not been censored! How the hell did you post this if you had? Ah! So now I’m anti semitic too? So you ARE a jewish/gay! My god man/person! You must be making a mint!

                    • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:48 pm

                      You know Dharmabro, that video is what it’s all about. It sums it up perfectly and, for that, I congratulate you. BUT, what you are doing is choosing to perceive that I hate/despise you and your type because of the language I use and my personal view of your sexual preferences. You CHOOSE to put that in the category of “hate” and “homophobia”. Yet, I would speak out every single time to protect your HUMAN rights and your right to live as you please whether I find it not to my liking or not. But what you do and so many other groups, is set yourself apart by your very demands. Yes gays are being killed but, as Crystali says, there are parts of the world where all different people’s are being killed. IF you and all the other “apart” groups who have their various political strengths (and let’s be honest here – heterosexuals in no way have any political strength precisely due to what we are – just listen to my confrontation with Damian Green and the barrister – it’s quite in your face after all) worked together as one for just simply HUMAN rights, then what do YOU think could be achieved? I’ll tell you what: It would scare the living daylights out of the powers that be! But no, you fight your little corners and that is PRECISELY what keeps the shit from the PTB progressing.

                    • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:23 am

                      earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:51 pm
                      So you ARE a jewish/gay! My god man/person! You must be making a mint!

                      i am neither jewish nor identify as being gay. you make far too many assumptions.

                    • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:27 am

                      “nor identify as being gay”??? Not “nor gay” You just don’t identify yourself as being gay? Sounds like a closet case to me. Or are you just unsure and confused? So what are you? Do you identify as being hetero? Bi? Ambidextrous? A human peeing? A confused Plymouth brethren? A bent buddhist? What? Or just, perhaps, an “Earthling”? 😉

                • touchstone said, on June 9, 2015 at 1:37 am

                  I bet he’s bent.

        • Crystali said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:39 pm

          “Have you ever considered that homosexuality has more to do with whom you LOVE as opposed to where you stick your cock? Why the fixation on a sexual act?”

          So why then all the pride parades, why do homosexuals need more rights than everybody else, or are you telling us that homosexuals have a special kind of love that needs to be granted special treatment?
          You think heterosexuals want to be forced to accept your sexual pleasures with an endearing kind of respect. No we don’t, and that’s the point, it has always been the point. You already have the same rights as everyone else, so what do you want, notoriety, attention, why? We know you exist, we know what you do, your love no more special than anyone else’s.
          Everyone has gone into a kind of pompous stupor.
          It’s not us that doesn’t accept, it’s you that wont accept that we don’t want to know!

          • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:48 pm

            Homesexual do NOT want more rights than anyone else. Just the same rights. No more, no less.

            Here’s a list of 83 countries and independent political entities with anti-homosexuality laws:

            Africa

            1 Algeria
            2 Angola
            3 Benin
            4 Botswana
            5 Burundi
            6 Cameroon
            7 Comoros
            8 Egypt
            9 Eritrea
            10 Ethiopia
            11 Gambia
            12 Ghana
            13 Guinea
            14 Kenya
            15 Lesotho
            16 Liberia
            17 Libya
            18 Malawi (enforcement of law suspended)
            19 Mauritania
            20 Mauritius
            21 Morocco
            22 Mozambique
            23 Namibia
            24 Nigeria
            25 Sao Tome
            26 Senegal
            27 Seychelles
            28 Sierra Leone
            29 Somalia
            30 South Sudan
            31 Sudan
            32 Swaziland
            33 Tanzania
            34 Togo
            35 Tunisia
            36 Uganda
            37 Zambia
            38 Zimbabwe
            39 Afghanistan
            40 Bangladesh
            41 Bhutan
            42 Brunei
            43 India
            44 Iran
            45 Kuwait
            46 Lebanon
            47 Malaysia
            48 Maldives
            49 Myanmar
            50 Oman
            51 Pakistan
            52 Palestine/Gaza Strip
            53 Qatar
            54 Saudi Arabia
            55 Singapore
            56 Sri Lanka
            57 Syria
            58 Turkmenistan
            59 United Arab Emirates
            60 Uzbekistan
            61 Yemen

            • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:49 pm

              73 Cook Islands
              74 Indonesia (Aceh Province and South Sumatra)
              75 Kirbati
              76 Nauru
              77 Palau
              78 Papua New Guinea
              79 Samoa
              80 Solomon Islands
              81 Tonga
              82 Tuvalu
              83 Northern Cyprus

            • Crystali said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:51 pm

              No, no one needs to be hanged, but is that not using the same kind of emotional blackmail spoken of on other occasions. If you live in Britain, your contrived man dealt bloody rights are already equal, you want to be more than equal is the truth. You want to be more than the sum of the majority, it is self importance that you tread all over heterosexuals with.

              • Crystali said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:54 pm

                And another thing, where does the line get drawn, all that is natural replaced by all that is not because you want to erase the line so that no man of natural nature be left standing in your way.

                • Crystali said, on February 7, 2014 at 10:57 pm

                  … …And if we are already all equal in the eyes of the law then why does anyone have to stand on pedestals demanding to be heard above everyone else, you see, you see what we have to endure.

                • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:00 pm

                  But homosexuals are being hanged, hunted and gunned down just for loving someone of the same sex.
                  http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/feb/06/dispatches-russia-gay-brutality-k2-storyville

                  • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:07 pm

                    And you’re blaming me for that? Piss off Dharmabro! I don’t support that so just piss off with your propaganda. It’s precisely like the “anti semite” tag. If you speak your mind in the slightest, you’re labeled in the same group as people who will murder. PISS OFF!

                    • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:15 pm

                      You’re attitude is the thin edge of the wedge Earthlinggb.

                    • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:17 pm

                      I’ll never give you a “wedgy” though! 😉

                    • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:44 pm

                      earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:17 pm
                      I’ll never give you a “wedgy” though! 😉

                      —————–

                      I’d never request one.

          • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:07 pm

            Richard Ryan, a professor of psychology at the University of Rochester, co-authored a study that looks at the roots of homophobia and how this attitude is more pronounced in individuals with an unacknowledged attraction to the same sex and who grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires. The study is the first to document the role that both parenting and sexual orientation play in the formation of intense and visceral fear of homosexuals, including self-reported homophobic attitudes, discriminatory bias, implicit hostility towards gays, and endorsement of anti-gay policies. The study was conducted by a team from the University of Rochester, the University of Essex, England, and the University of California in Santa Barbara.

            • Crystali said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:21 pm

              “But homosexuals are being hanged, hunted and gunned down just for loving someone of the same sex.”
              FOR FUCK SAKE, there are people all over the god damn world being murdered and tortured and all sorts of heinous shit in contrived wars, children being molested and raped and tortured, animals suffering more then you’ll ever imagine, and all you care about is whether you’re sexual habits can be accepted by heterosexuals. No wonder this world is so fucked up, everyone cares only for self, put yourself in the shoes of those children then tell me your over inflated self-bigotry is worthy of more rights and attention than they.

              • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:23 pm

                Oooh! Good one! And that’s from a woman Darmabro! My guess is she must be a closet lesbian! What does your “Professor” say about women who don’t quite accept your preferences? Hmmmm… difficult one eh? lol

              • Crystali said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:27 pm

                Go on, pick a corner, which corner do you stand in, the one that’s got the majority, the one that stands out from the crowd, the one more important than the rest. Yes, that’s right, that’s all it comes down to, one group over another. If there were aliens watching over us now they’d be pissing themselves with remorse.

                • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:29 pm

                  You want support gayboy? Then drop the gay tag and talk about HUMAN rights! Not GAY rights! Not straight or black or any other group rights but HUMAN rights! REAL ones! Then I’ll support you all the way! But you keep bleating about gay shit and you can piss off!

                  • Crystali said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:39 pm

                    One last thing… … thread has been hijacked, off topic… lol

                    • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:50 pm

                      well i for one am glad we’ve had this discussion. i’ve learnt a whole lot about you. your comments speak for themselves and are now on record.

                  • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:52 pm

                    from one human to another… sending you loads of love, dharmabro x

                    • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:52 pm

                      and a big hug x

                    • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:00 am

                      I’ll shake your hand Dharm – as long as you’ve washed it first. But hugs? No thanks. Run along now!

              • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:48 pm

                it has nothing to do with sexual habits. it’s about LOVE

                • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 11:55 pm

                  If it’s about love then go off and love. Who the hell’s stopping you? So what’s with all the gay marches then when you have to display that “love”? Do we need to see hairy arses walking the street with costumes on as if you all came out of a poor man’s mix between a Folies Berger and San Francisco nightclub? Anyhow, I think we’ve exhausted this. Go take some poppers and Relax (but don’t do it).

                  • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:03 am

                    My point is it’s not about the sexual act but whom you love. you seem to be fixated on the gay sex act. why? anyhow if it’s consensual sex between to adults who are you to sit in judgement? sex is just an expression of love. p.s. i don’t take poppers

                    • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:10 am

                      Sex is just an expression of love? Really? Every person who goes to a swingers club is in love with every person they shag? The south african farmer who shags his donkey is actually in love with it? The paedophile who shags a 7 year old boy or girl is in love with them? I see, sorry for my ignorance, I didn’t realise. Fixated on gay sex? No, YOU are! It’s displayed everywhere. While WE have to “like” it otherwise we’re homophobic. Who sits in judgement? If so then what have I judged and what is your sentence? STOP being a victims for christ’s sakes! It’s pathetic. And if you don’t take poppers I guess you must like a lot of vegetable smoothies!

              • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:12 am

                I do not condone any acts of violence upon any sentient creature.

            • touchstone said, on June 9, 2015 at 1:40 am

              Oh for God’s sake, piss off….you’re hogging this comments page.

        • ConspiracyCat said, on July 12, 2015 at 10:00 pm

          I take it then that you never read the books Enoch? In fact this vid you’ve shown to prove your point actually points to the atrocities committed upon these creatures by the Raphiem/Nephilim. You would “like” to think that by encompassing nature into the equation that it further justifies inappropriate illicit behaviours in humans. However man in his complexities have branching emotional responses rooted in what you refer to as “instincts” and indeed so, but this person whom has convoluted the idea of a strictly sexual inclinations for the same gender has no parallel with what you have delegated as, “love is love”. Love is not a sexual response; love is a choice. Animals “in nature” do not express “love” in the same sentimentality as humans. They only react in the response to mate, and as a result, the drive for procreation dilapidates “productive” reproduction. It is not a “homosexual” response because (again) homosexuality happens by choice. It is the same instance when a dog humps a human leg, a couch, a stuffed animal… I have seen a moose hump a public mailbox, doesn’t make that animal an “altersexual”. It simply means his need to mate is overriding judgment in the pattern to reproduce

          Bravo to you, earthlinggb. You are in my prayers; keep up your fight!

      • Hector Vector said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:02 am

        Funny how in a post which explores the etymology of one word, that of another is overlooked. Homophobia literally means fear of the same – about as contrary to its common meaning as one might imagine because if one is homophobic in the common understanding one hates those who are, in one sense, different from oneself. Bit Orwellian, really.

        • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:06 am

          Oxford Dictionary.

          Definition of homophobia in English:

          an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

          Sums you up completely.

          http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/homophobia

          • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:13 am

            Get a sense of humour. You’ll get laid more often!

          • Hector Vector said, on February 8, 2014 at 7:20 am

            You missed the point, dharmabro, I know damned well what the common understanding of homophobia is but homo means same and phobia means fear. If you had any wit or intelligence, you could have used that information to make a pithy point about language and how homophobia is deep down a fear of ourselves but instead you got all prickly and made a stupid accusation against me.

            Why stupid?

            Because firstly, I am quite ambivalent about what people do in their private lives so long as they are consenting and are old enough and intelligent enough to make their own choices. I make no judgements about something merely on a lack of understanding – that is prejudice. I don’t like gay culture but like American football, chewing gum and shoot ’em up video games, I just avoid it – I don’t try to stop it. I’m not involved in it and so long as nobody is being forced to do something against their will, it’s none of my business. I see people with faces covered in tattoos and wonder what made them do it but at the end of the day, it’s their business.

            I don’t believe in gay marriage simply because marriage has been historically defined as the lawfully binding union of a man and a woman. I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with civil partnerships. However, it now seems that gay people have more rights in this area than straight people because they have a choice between marriage and civil partnership whereas straight people may only marry. But this, in my mind, is related to the demands made on the church (with which I have no vested interest). To me, it’s a bit like wanting to join the chess club and insisting that they let you play backgammon.

            Secondly, I disagree with a lot of what has been said on here – it makes me cringe that some people are so bigoted and yet would have us believe that they are enlightened but they publicly hang themselves with their words. I despise prejudice – it is, by definition, ignorance. You seem to be quite prejudiced yourself, I need look no further than your accusation against me for proof of that.

            Thirdly, for reasons I will not explore here I have first hand experience of what you call homophobia having been incorrectly believed to be homosexual and was menaced for almost ten years. I’d love to tell you the details just so that you know the severity of what I went through and that I am not bullshitting but that is between me and my psychologist at the moment.

            Oh, and I have gay friends and there are several members of my family who are gay. And once had a black friend and an Asian one.

      • daholduk said, on February 28, 2015 at 4:24 am

        ‘Sexual organs (sic) basic use is to procreate.’ So by your logic, heterosexual sex is permitted ONLY if the intention is to procreate and women should not engage in anal sex because it is unnatural.

        (a perversion is something contrary to nature) … so driving cars is a part of nature, space travel is a part of nature. Nearly everything mankind does is against nature, and while we are classed as animals, I don’t think the analogy of nature can apply to mankind.
        Does hatred exist in nature. Does logical intelligent thought occur in nature.
        Homophobia refers to the individual being afraid of his own sexual desires.

        • ConspiracyCat said, on July 12, 2015 at 10:27 pm

          Actually indifference in other animals is ten times more common than in humans which is why, especially amongst predators, is how they acquire territories. Humans on the other hand have an emotional response to things that deviate from their astute nature which by intelligence helps us delegate unacceptable behaviours in those around us. Just recently, it was an approved by academia in New York to begin pro-homosexuality curriculum. In response, and well within their first Amendment Right, parents began to rally and picket the school; the homosexual community responded by throwing excretions at the crowd and public displays of defecation and wiping their asses with pages of the Bible. This type of unintelligent behaviour is only found in those closed societies that are inerudited and disenfranchised. Well educated people do not respond by throwing bodily waste on their fellow human beings. These are actions of primates not asute members of any community, gay or otherwise.

          Bravo earthlinggb, you are in my prayers.

    • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 9:56 pm

      One other thing Dharmabro: Tatchell himself refers to himself and gays as “queers”. I couldn’t agree with him more so I’m agreeing with a gay guy. He uses the word – no issue. I agree with him – BIG issue. Why? because it’s ok for him, he’s gay. Me agreeing with a guy who calls himself queer is homophobic. It’s PRECISELY the same with the word “nigga”. The hypocrisy is stunning and all of it is taking the piss out of everyone, even the gays and the niggas.

  4. Marko said, on February 7, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    I’ve net met earthlinggb, but I would bet a pound to a penny that he meets and treats people on merit.

    Would they rob you? Would they lie to you? Would they insult you because you were of a different sexuality?

    This man is no bigot. He is not prejudiced, but you have to understand that there is a massive backlash going on at the moment from ‘real men’ against the shit that we have been brainwashed with for the last 20 years. By the way, I’m not an alpha male. I am a pretty weak individual. I like gay people most of the time. I love to go to ‘tranny’ nights with my g/f and friends. Great atmosphere. I appreciate it from an artistic point of view too. But not politically, and this is where I think earthlinggb is coming from. He is not a danger. A threat. He would never kick someone’s head in for wearing pink lipstick. He might laugh. But that is ok, right? He would probably even defend your right to wear pink lipstick, even if it wasn’t his favourite colour.

    Oh well, In linux again and have to log out – things not working properly. I prepare my little hetero botty to be metaphorically spanked by mr earthlinggb. 😉

    I’m a very straight man, that loves gay people and women. But let me tell you this. A lot of your crowd are a fucking disgrace and you have had your way for too long. Start respecting us for who we are, and we can all get along, ok?

    🙂

    • earthlinggb said, on February 7, 2014 at 9:47 pm

      Yep you read me well.

    • dharmabro said, on February 7, 2014 at 9:49 pm

      please define what a ‘real man’ is and clarify what you mean by:

      ‘A lot of your crowd are a fucking disgrace and you have had your way for too long.’

      Thanks…

  5. dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:09 am

    Dispatches Hunted UK Channel 4

    • Crystali said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:28 am

      You really don’t like yourself very much, another carrying a chip, I have never seen such passion to assert ones cause, you would do well to go have a word with the Lords in the house rather than troll a thread that you can’t get your own way on.

      • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:42 am

        i am completely comfortable in my skin… just calling out bigotry and hatred when i see it that’s all.

        • Crystali said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:51 am

          You just don’t get it, I, and I am sure, although not certain that Earthling does not hate, I do not hate you or any other man or woman that is homosexual, we do not want you to thrust your sexuality in our face and then under no certain terms force us to deny our freedom of thought and make our hearts and minds accept it. It is you that does not get it, I don’t hate, so what you are saying that homophobia is actually the non acceptance of the sexual act, it should not include the like or dislike of the people, that’s a fallacy.
          You cannot convince anyone, so why do you carry on and on, just to derail this thread.

        • Crystali said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:51 am

          Do you like me or my views?

        • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:58 am

          When you perceive it Dharmabro not when you SEE it! There’s a BIG difference!
          As for your points about “fixation on sex”: Ok, let’s look at that. You say it’s all about love. Ok fine. Go ahead and love. Who’s stopping you? We all want to have love in the world. So what’s your next point? “Ah but you don’t accept love between two men!” ? Is that it? Well, as I said over and over, I don’t give a damn. BUT, the sheer fact you then bring the differentiator into it is pointing out that it is about sex because, otherwise, none would bat an eyelid. Love anyone you wish to love but what you want is the hetero to say “I think sex between two men is natural”. Then, if it were natural and we really believed that, what would stop us not partaking in it ourselves? Because it is not our preference and we find it pretty sick just as, if I were to turn to a gayboy and say “Hey! Why don’t you like the idea of pussy?” He would say “Yuck! It just makes me feel sick and it’s not my preference” (I had a gay lodger in Singapore – strangely one of the countries you mention as being anti gay while they walk the streets in their masses untouched and have jobs and have their gaybars, they’re at the gyms in their throngs (and thongs) and even the ladyboys and transexuals walk the streets without ANY issue whatsoever – and that is precisely what he said to me!). So, for a homophobe, how weird is it that I actually had a gay lodger? The problem was that I had laid down the rules IN MY HOUSE (which he agreed to) that I didn’t want gays staying over AT MY HOUSE. He then asked to use my laptop quite often to “contact his family”. It turned out he was using it to go on a website called “Gaydar” where he had a profile up. He then also started inviting guys back. He then was going to leave without paying his rent. I didn’t throw him out because he was gay. I threw his stuff out (including his poppers) when I realised he was a lying little shitbag.

    • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:38 am

      There are tons of people in the UK who are islamaphobic (and homophobic) too. So what’s your point? I despise every one of them for their ignorance and their hatred. Yet you, consistently, here, try to shove me in the same box? You’re a piss artist! Not because you’re gay but because you’re trying to create a predator out of me (when you haven’t a fricking clue what or who I am) and a victim out of you! When you see me attack a gay or a muslim or a jew or anyone, THEN call me what you will. Until then, shut your fcuking mouth! It’s as overly flexible as your ass! Or perhaps it’s your ass you’re talking out of? I’m unsure at this point.

      • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:46 am

        ‘When you see me attack a gay or a muslim or a jew or anyone, THEN call me what you will.’ – You are a bigoted homophobe. Your verbal attacks are here for all to read.

        I will not shut my mouth. Respect my right to free speech as I do yours.

        • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:02 am

          Awww… “verbal attacks”. Taking the piss more like when I have a little prat trying desperately to label me. You DON’T respect my free speech. I’m having my free speech and you are choosing to colour it as a potentially violent homophobe and bigot. Cheap and transparent and, if you don’t now drop it, you’re out of here because trolling your shit is enough. You label me bumboy and I’ll pay back in kind.

          • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:04 am

            I sense a lot of anger…

            • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:08 am

              Man, your senses like a dick rather than a pussy! Case closed.

            • spartacus said, on February 10, 2014 at 3:16 pm

              I sense a mischeivous little plonker with an agenda. If you are ever out at night shagging animals, when i am out with my rifle shooting rats on a farm, if you are a white guy dont forget to put enough cam cream on yer ass. You would’nt believe how much your backside shows up at night, especially in the moonlight.

        • spartacus said, on February 10, 2014 at 2:41 pm

          oi Diablo, i dont see you respecting anyones free speech here pal, just the opposite infact. sorry.

      • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:54 am

        i was also a tpv volunteer. i have more than a clue of what or who you are.

        • Crystali said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:55 am

          Sounds like a threat!

          • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:01 am

            not a threat at all…. it’s just that you said ‘you haven’t a fricking clue what or who I am’ That is all.
            Anyhow why feel threatened by a queer, a poof, a gayboy?

            • Crystali said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:15 am

              No one feels threatened, What you said came across as a threat, difference.
              It now makes so much sense why you parade and rampage and throw tantrums and command to be liked. Ahh, that’s what it is, a need to be liked, you are insecure to the point you need to have the last word.

          • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:07 am

            What? Is it? “Earthling and the attack of the bumboys: Part IV – “A New Pope”!”

          • spartacus said, on February 10, 2014 at 2:52 pm

            What else would it be Crystali? I would wager it is an empty one to boot.

        • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:05 am

          Yeah? Well, as you said and have proven thus far up until this thread, you liked what I had to say. So don’t try to now twist it into “I had a clue then what you were” because you obviously didn’t. You’re just throwing tantrums now because I won’t say I think having a cock up my arse is natural. Go get some help.

          • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:10 am

            i am happily chilled out on the sofa…. enjoying our exchange. no tantrums here. can you say the same?

            • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:23 am

              Totally. But it’s getting very “old” now and this is not what the blog was about. So give it a rest. Enjoy some Frank Zappa. I think he wrote this about the sofa too:

          • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:22 am

            define ‘natural.’ oh we’ve already HAD this argument. let me clarify AGAIN..

            Have you ever considered that homosexuality has more to do with whom you LOVE as opposed to where you stick your cock? Why the fixation on a sexual act?

            Please also define natural. If you mean ‘existing in or derived from nature’ then you’ll find many, MANY examples of homosexuality in the natural world.

            • Crystali said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:31 am

              You only came to wreck this thread, to defend TPV and it’s idiots as above to derail this thread. I see what you have done, but the thread will still be here and in full view for everyone to see.

            • earthlinggb said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:45 am

              Have you ever considered that heterosexuality has more to do with whom you love than where to stick your cock? Damn! That would make us equal wouldn’t it? So you can’t have that so then let’s look at the natural part. Well, if we were all heterosexual we would continue the species. If we were all homosexual then the NWO would have their depopulation in a flash. If “Adam & Eve” were both homes, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. What a couple of selfish prats they would be huh? Why would only they get to live? Yes there are many examples of homosexuality in the natural world. Animals can be like that, they’ll fcuk anything! Ever had a dog at your leg? That’s a good example to use to justify your preference! Try it! “Hey, we’re no different from dogs you know! Or insects, or birds or other species of the animal kingdom!” “Really?” say the elite, well you won’t mind if we treat you like cattle then?”

              • dharmabro said, on February 8, 2014 at 3:25 am

                just laughable

                • Crystali said, on February 8, 2014 at 5:50 pm

                  What is so laughable about that? it is true! Or are you saying that you have the same moral conscious as animals? Man was given domain over animals because man was given a higher conscience than animals in general, you were given logic, the ability to rationalise and know the difference between right and wrong on a level far different than a general animal. And those that refute that I dare to go have a rational and logical debate with an animal, they are intelligent in their own relative way of existence and have the same depth of love and compassion as humans do.
                  You being a human have a far different level of conscience, it is man that has taken the sexual act to a level of degradation that can never exist in the animal world, what animals do is basic animal instinct, not with any amount of logic or rationality, that is their innocence.
                  Man (as in mankind) does what he does because he enjoys the carnal pleasures that sex gives him, he has removed the basic nature of the act because he enjoys the act, what he enjoys needs to be kept between him and not the rest of the world, it is not your place to force your unnatural act, and it is, upon a natural world, if it were natural then the majority of the worlds people would not be repelled by it, they are because it is unnatural. It is natural to you because you prefer a relationship with same gender, you still want the pleasures of sex and have accepted to do what you do to have it. Leave it at that, keep it to yourselves.

        • spartacus said, on February 10, 2014 at 2:48 pm

          I have seen this, “we know who and what you are” nonsense a few times now, and i will say the same thing to you as i have to the others. PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
          If you lot had anything you would have tipped your hand by now fella.

  6. Walter Sham said, on February 8, 2014 at 4:14 am

    I love the argument that if you are against homosexuality, you must therefore be a closet homosexual.

    What a great way to try to silence people!

    As for it being about ‘love’- it is a fact that many homosexuals were abused as children, or they were born with a chromosomal disorder. There is a perv-asive agendum taking place to ‘normalise’ this abhorrent mode of behaviour.

    Brother Nathanael has this to say about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiYRGyvMseU

    Anyway, I don’t hate homosexuals, I just don’t want them trying to force it down people’s throats! I don’t understand how any man could not find women attractive- that’s just weird- sorry, duckies!

    • anna said, on February 8, 2014 at 12:54 pm

      You are on the right path earthlinggb concerning Sean ADL Tabatabai, we must keep digging and putting these pieces together such as you have laid out in your article.

      • Costas said, on February 8, 2014 at 3:13 pm

        So pleased the thread has come back to Sean Adl. I was hoping for more info on this mysterious bloke but the thread got hijacked. I wonder how Sean and David found each other? I’m presuming Sean is homosexual.

  7. Gazz said, on February 8, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    Bravo ! earthlinggb – ‘luvz ya’ . . . . and I aint even gay 😉

  8. Kate said, on February 8, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    I think David Icke is gay by virtue of all the drama he and his followers incite — not that there’s anything wrong with being gay. Wherever Davey goes, drama follows. Coincidence? He is a drama QUEEN.

  9. Walter Shambles said, on February 8, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    Sean is ‘bi-sexual’ (same as gay in my book). They definitely have their agenda at DIF- the promotion of ‘free love’ (aka f*** anything that moves/don’t bother with loving, meaningful relationships).

    David Icke’s son, Gareth is a homosexual- I wonder how that happened…

    Apparently, Sean took on a Forum Advisor: ‘Krakhead’, because he wanted to go with him. This ‘Krakhead’ is a male nurse- make of that what you will.

    Again, I’ve got nothing against homosexuals per se, I’m just fed up of the NWO minions and sell outs promoting it- it will one day become a criminal offence to openly disagree with homosexuality!

    Good point about ‘gay’ animals (earlier in this thread)- I have made that point before, dogs try to ‘hump’ people’s legs… just like ‘bi-sexuals’- they’d screw anything that moves!

    Seal and David work for the NWO- steering people to accept everything that the NWO does- “It’s all an illusion…”… “Don’t worry about anything- it’s all a ride…”

    That keeps people innocuous, docile, and no threat to the NWO regime.

    Anyway, good on Sonia Poulton, I enjoyed listening to what she had to say about those villains!

    • Mark said, on February 12, 2014 at 3:57 pm

      Gareth denies being a homosexual. Minimally he has boundary issues or was simply raised by a pack of wild dogs. Weird how Icke created a child who is so hideously ugly and degenerate looking when Icke and his wife were reasonably good looking people. Whether he’s day or not, Gareth is a deviant freak. That his father promotes his deviant behavior discredits his father as a messenger for anything good and decent. Make these idiots go away. Perhaps if we ignore them….

      • earthlinggb said, on February 13, 2014 at 3:21 pm

        Whether he denies being a homosexual or not, it’s entirely his prerogative to be or not to be one. However, if he is one, it would, once more, point to what the agenda is in this group because that would be a number of core people who were part of this having the same orientation. That said, before Icke got all “infiltrator” about Matt Smith’s sister (I believe it was his sister which came over from LA with him and his dad), I had a good chat with Matt – he is homosexual – and, strangely, for me being labeled as homophobic by certain people, Matt and I got along quite well to the extent he wanted to work with me.
        Back to Gareth however – he’s not a bad looking lad. I’m not going to slag off where I feel it’s not warranted. Deviant? Well his actions suggest this but I’d put it down more to just having a rather twisted ego, arrogance and opinion of himself. He’s been brought up in a media fuelled setting and the fact his father keeps harping on about “be what you want to be and screw what people think” has probably formed his view of others and what he thinks is showing his “individuality”. He’s still a young boy remember. At least his mind certainly is. He’s more a teenager than a mature late twenties bloke. He’s doing it all wrong however. How can you expect to be taken seriously writing songs like “Remember who you are” (I have to say I think his song writing and lyrical skills plus his vocals are terrible but that’s just preference) then advertise yourself across the world having a guy help you shove bundles of straws up your ass as if it’s some form of “Look at me, I am free”. Yes remember who you are Gareth: A guy who bears his arse and sticks straws up it. That’s what you are mate. There’s no argument. I’m sure there are other sides of what you are too but that’s what you’ve promoted of yourself and it sticks. So enjoy it.
        If his dad is so proud of the feat, I would be interested to see if his father could beat him in the number of straws game. Go on Icke. After all, if there’s no issue with what your son did then there can be no issue in you doing it can there? So let’s see the two Ickies go head to head (or ass to ass). You could have it on the dot connector.
        We’re talking about simple minded people trying to play the big boy’s games that’s all. While they have an audience they’ll suck it dry but daddy has to create that audience for a third rate nothing. He drops some of his gigs and tour to appear on “The Banned”. A musician doesn’t do that if he believes in his work. What dad has said here is “You’ll achieve more, or we will as a family, if you appear on The Banned”. If Gareth’s music career was anything worth pursuing, he would never have agreed. He couldn’t have because gigging his music is the most important thing to someone who wants to make it in music. He’s sold out because he knows it isn’t going anywhere and he still wants his face on TV.

        • Mark said, on February 14, 2014 at 2:29 pm

          Excellent analysis! I believe Icke does sanction this behavior as he has posted pictures of himself naked online, with his wanker on show for all to see. I expect his experience on the Wogan show has made him completely anti-social and resistant to all social norms as some sort of control, which is part of the problem. He has injured, insulted many people through TPV and yet his attitude is that he doesnt’ care or as Icke would say “f*ck em”, “give them the middle finger.” Observing certain social norms is important just for getting along/not antagonizing others. I expect David is oblivious or does not care for the harm Gareth and his own behavior is doing to the brand and his message. If he were enlightened, he would realize his behaviors are unwise, but if he is part of the control system, as you believe he is, then he is just expressing the degeneracy of elites in the name of artistic expression and faux rebellion in the tradition of Lady Gaga, Madonna, and the rest. I must say that I have lost all respect for the man. Gareth I never had respect for in the first place, but yes, I agree, he is arrogant and a stupid, prattish kid, which may be understandable given his age. Given his father’s public persona, you’d think he’d reign it in,or not, Icke probably thinks this is just an expression of his individuality. Icke has raised a potential criminally prone son who doesnt’ know limits, right from wrong, and is largely lawless and operating outside societal norms. Sticking straws up his bum and all the other nonsense he does is borderline delinquent and pathetic. I agree also that if were serious about his music, he would be devoted to it and not skip shows, unless few are actually paying to see his “gigs.” (You have more responses and followers to your blog than he does and yet he is Icke’s son with his own radio show and band!) He could always get a fill in for his show and pursue his career with passion. David raised a juvenile delinquent. He is also unattractive with his “bug eyes” that buldge out. He is just ugly though he does have youth and a fit body on his side. I doubt he will ever rise to the level of heart throb.

  10. spartacus said, on February 10, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    I suspect that this turd Sean ADL could well be a multi agency guy. MI-5/6 and the rest. They do tend to use a lot of degenerate low life in their “games”. I also cant get away from the smell of Mossad with him. Just a nagging feeling.

  11. Babs said, on February 12, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Interesting on the TPV website. Tags:

    Adam Morgan Ashley Haden Barton Moss British Government children Christian David Icke Doctors Dr David Dewhurst drugs Electro Magnetic Frequencies finance fracking Gareth Icke gay George Osbourne global economy holographic universe homosexuality Iain Duncan Smith Ian McNabb Ishaq Siddiqui Jana Dowling Jonzi D Kinesiology Lucid Dreaming Lyndsey Sharman Madeleine McCann Maggie Tuttle Mike Davidson Mike Sivier Natalie Rowe newspaper review None of the Above X Occupy Economics Peter Brown pub culture queer Richie Allen Scientology Stephen Birch Terry Marsh The Struts True Ingredients Will Setchell

    • Mark said, on February 12, 2014 at 3:54 pm

      Google Gareth Icke and gay and you will find his blog where he talks about this and links to a web site in which gorilla posts pictures of Gareth in various states of homosexual/deviant behavior. Gareth denies he is gay and then proceeds, in true Icke fashion, to slander gorilla. After have I have seen on TPV, I would never click on Icke’s site again or watch TPV. What a farce. What degenerates!

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  13. rhodesian12 said, on April 30, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    You can almost guarantee a link to the Vatican and David Icke and his mob – the poster Bikerdruid (Patrick Head) who is one moderator on there that busies himself deleting posts and banning people – he has already admitted links to RCC. Also seanx is sean adl tabatabai. Oh_me is another ‘gatekeeper’. The Vatican leaders are pagans posing as Christians – their doctrines are the absolute opposite of the Bible and The Vatican is the most powerful institute in the world. If you look into the links between the Vatican, the Knights of Malta, the Jesuits, and all the secret societies, you will find that The Vatican controls all the secret societies – which are of course about initiation into the Occult. The true Christians are the ones who follow God’s Word – The Bible – that is who The Vatican look to eliminate.

  14. daholduk said, on February 28, 2015 at 5:32 am

    What a long bow to draw in justifying your anti-homosexual diatribe by linking it with the conspiracy of the NWO.
    Population control is necessary to ensure the survival of Mankind. Studies in nature have shown when species populations grow out of control they ‘kill’ themselves by exhausting their natural resources.
    Why would the mythical NWO want to promote homosexuality. Why do you categorise David Icke and Sean ADL Tabatabai as NWO when they are clearly small bit players in the scheme of things. Independent TV vs Multi-National Broadcasters.
    Why? Because people who argue poorly against things they have no rational reason to, use tactics of distraction such as conspiracy to discredit their opponents.
    Seriously, you believe these guys to be part of the NWO? Which NWO? The Jews, Aliens, Communists, Terrarists, Roman Cathalic Church, the Rothchilds, the Illluminati? Or are they one and the same.
    Did man land on the moon, was 9 1 1 a conspiracy by the NWO to distract the populace with a new enemy? (Must admit I am pro the latter one, but not for the nwo, but the ewo).
    One has to worry when another finds such creative means to justify his irrational prejudice.

  15. Axiom Seer said, on January 11, 2016 at 9:37 am

    sean adl is a disinfo merchant


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