David Icke: Dear god almighty!
So much absolute crap in all of this I wouldn’t know where to start.
I might get around to it at some point though. Just right at this minute, I’ve got better things to do and this guy’s crap is too much to take. Who’s going to play him in Hollywood’s “David Icke: Life and times of a charlatan”? – an autobiographical movie directed by George Lucas with masses of special effects otherwise it would bore you to tears! Because it’s gonna need one hell of an actor to beat what you see on these vids.
The elite will recognise that we’re not willing to DO anything but talk David? What the HELL is TPV? You slag off people for talking about it but DOING nothing? That is exactly what TPV is doing! TALKING! As for the action of getting off their arses and separating their arse from their sofa. That’s not what you want at all. You just want them to separate their money from their bank account (that’s the ONLY action you want) and then sit on their sofa watching TPV. You’re full of it man. Full of it and transparent as hell.
The elite will recognise we’re not willing to DO anything to resist? Yeah sure they will. The VERY MAN SAYING THIS didn’t even resist OFCOM! It just amazes me the shit you get away with emanating from that hole in your head mate!
“My health – I’m dying” – emotional blackmail
“If you don’t gimme your money then you don’t want (or deserve) freedom” – emotional blackmail
And you have the audacity to come across as if YOU are the only shepherd to lead the flock. Incredible arrogance man. You couldn’t lead a coup David! You couldn’t lead a coo oot of a shed!
While not one of your numbskulls noticed the massive contradiction between your statements and Richie Allen’s. You going on about TPV imminently going off air – IMMINENTLY mind! And what does Richie say right afterward? “I’m pretty certain that the People’s Voice will endure and we will survive and carry on….”
Yes Richie and so am I and always have been – look back at the blogs and you will see it stated. While I also mentioned (in text over a week ago) to a number of people, that TPV’s donations would start ramping up due to “anonymous” contributions coming in suddenly of significant amounts. Et voila! That’s precisely what is happening. 😉
Some people aren’t that stupid guys. We really aren’t. But then that’s what you hate isn’t it? To paraphrase George Carlin: “They want you ‘awake’ enough to see how you’re getting shafted but still dumb enough to not see how you’re getting shafted by others.”
Oh yes folks, TPV will endure. You can be certain of that and Davey Dyke can take it to the bank! But let me tell you this: Even IF they went off air for a while (or for good) it wouldn’t be because of a lack of funding even if you all stopped. What am I saying? They’re off the air nearly everyday anyhow with all that fantastic equipment they bought with your money.
By the way David, Ian Kelly wants to know where the £10K went which was paid to David Icke Books Ltd for TPV rather than sent through the Indiegogo site? Is THAT the money you don’t account for in the “financial report” you provided your followers (there’s no accounting showing ANY donations in that table Davey) and is it then the money you say you put into TPV “out of my own pocket”? I’d guess it probably is!
Jesus what a circus. What a joke. But there will always be those who want to pay for their enslavement thinking they are going to be given their freedom.
Just like the tray which is passed around in church and just like the televangelists offering you heaven. Some people just never learn.
Sad. Very very sad.
Earthling 
Why, thus far has David Icke not made full use of youtube, making daily broadcasts via webcam? He already has sufficient following that such broadcasts would have reached a wide audience. Why was it necessary for him to invest in top quality cameras, studio equipment and have a large staff when surely the substance of the message is more important than slick professionalism. I’m sure £300.000 could have achieved a hell of a lot more if it had been allocated wisely.
Imagine £300,000 — and its applications on YouTube, just doing shows in studio, via Skype or whatever, and then posting them on YouTube for people to watch at their leisure. They could have had a vast following — and posted advertisers on there to generate more revenue.
They could even have reporters all over the world call in their reports and have someone in studio fact check and vertify the data and do sooooo much.
I agree. Why the need for a band studio, comedy/talent show, porn/sexual deviancy shows. How is any of this helping stop the police state? YouTube would have helped spread the message (and probably ensured they didn’t need to get the OFCOM license) but not have helped DI’s dream of “own” a TV station and generate a fortune for his family. I still don’t understand why they are asking for the people’s money for a for-profit business they advertised as being non-profit. Why not take a loan from the bank to cover or search for an angel investor. Surely some of Dave’s celebrity millionaire friends would be willing to give a few quid for his venture. Think of Charlie Sheen, Alex Jones’ 9/11 truther buddy, who could fund the show for a year on what he earned filming one episode of Two and a Half Men.
Great idea, but they certainly didn’t think through the business plan. I don’t like how they said that once they surprassed their initial amount of £100,000 that they just decided to expand, but then what? They overextended themselves with no plan B. What was the plan to build a mammoth Titanic, sail it for a month, and then hope the people would sustain it?
Very poorly thought out. David seems really pained through, above. Quite sad. He’s very emotional about this.
Icke and co haven’t used Youtube as they can’t track the IP’s of who’s watching….;)
I think that David Ickes website/s are being used as surveillance. I also think that I have been a victim of this surveillance.
Thats a good and interesting point.
You said, “victim of this surveillance.” Do you believe TPV has captured your isp from their site and done something improper with it?
ISP is internet service provider eg British Telecom, iinet etc ; IP number is your ‘identification’ number so to speak..
Can you please elaborate on this?
All websites are hosted on servers of one description or another and those servers log the IP addresses of their visitors. If they didn’t, the server would not know where to send the data, For better or worse, it’s how the internet works.
Ah so it seems whoever is behind TPV is logging who is watching like big brother? Well I admit to watching it once and it was rubbish with terrible sound problems so I returned to YouTube.
Classical conman.
Takes someones £10k donation, puts it in his own account and then donates to the fund and claims that he is the major donator to tpv.
wow, i thought Icke pulled off a masterclass in the arts of confidence trickery when he managed to swindle a free trip to Peru courtesy of his holiday chums that he sold the holiday too for twice as much as he would have actually paid at the travel agents.
A real inspiration to all aspiring little confidence tricksters.
Takes the biscuit.
When David Icke goes out for a few drinks with the lads does he buy his round or does he only drink with groups that respect that a man of his godliness should be subjected to such a sheeple act like footing a round?
Stephen, challenging the police state is the trending topic for ambitious communicators. DI is not the only voice or salvation. He just wants us to subsidize his.
Yes, i know.
Also i personally dont seek a voice and dont ask for salvation and a police state is open and fair debate. All opinions are fine by me.
But David Icke? no thanks.
It was never necessary to attempt a TV format since the scope of DI`s message is very limited and His material is lifted from WRH,AJ, British tabloids etc. and nothing from important geopolitical and financial analysts. HIs presenters are poorly briefed and educated as is DI.Output is irritating with space wasted on superfluous pictures,DI adverts,amateur music etc.-there are better sources to view the DI headed news items which show the source linked so that surfers can make a judgement on whether to open the link.
The AV stuff is slowly delivered and amateurish.The great irony is that in his incessant warning about power and sheep etc. he has become the embodiment of Big Brother himself warning people to get off their feet pay him and his boy and to love him. He appears to despise critical comment about David Icke while urging people to be aware and critical of the world in which we live that he will never be qualified to understand let alone represent to others.A snake oil salesman whose demise I shall enjoy watching from time to time as pure entertainment.
This £10K fiddle could be the last straw for this sinister, bullying, Narcissistic fraudster, Is there any evidence of it? .Where’s the information coming from, and is it verifiable?
Just asking the question which was asked of him by Ian and, to which Ian received no reply. Yet Ian saw the emails from Sean to the crew on the Isle of Wight. I simply take Ian at his word and he awaits the response he shall never get.
He is using emotional and psychological blackmail to guilt people into donating lest the ONLY voice of truth left in the world (TPV) falls into oblivion. To say to those criticizing or questioning or refusing to donate etc.. that when the time comes when there is a ‘knock on the door’ and you are being hauled away by the authorities and you as the hypocrite and uncaring wuss you are end of crying like a baby.. then remember that you were the one who refused to donate…. who refused to support (no questions asked) the ONE CHANCE that we all had.. which is TPV… he is saying that those who refused to give him and TPV there absolute allegiance and most of all MONEY will have no right to cry and complain then… and will basically get what is coming to them… as if the growing police state, totalitarian atmosphere and stripping of our individual rights as people and the massive propaganda machines that are hitting us in every spectrum including the spiritual realm would be able to be overturned by a dubious non-transparent manipulative few running a TV internet stream that features amongst other things porn related crap (offensive to me as a woman) with a director who has referred to the females amongst us as fish and slags and other dubious material like praising Obama etc..
quote:
Here are the typical traits of the pathological cult leader (from Narcissists Among Us) you should watch for and which shout caution, get away, run, or avoid if possible:
He has a grandiose idea of who he is and what he can achieve.
Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, or brilliance.
Demands blind unquestioned obedience.
Requires excessive admiration from followers and outsiders.
Is exploitative of others by asking for their money or that of relatives putting others at financial risk.
Is arrogant and haughty in his behavior or attitude.
Has an exaggerated sense of power (entitlement) that allows him to bend rules and break laws.
Publicly devalues others as being inferior, incapable, or not worthy.
Is frequently boastful of accomplishments.
Doesn’t seem to listen well to needs of others, communication is usually one-way in the form of dictates.
When criticized he tends to lash out not just with anger but with rage
Anyone who criticizes or questions him is called an “enemy.”
Refers to non-members or non-believers in him as “the enemy.”
Has “magical” answers or solutions to problems.
Is superficially charming.
Has a certain coldness or aloofness about him that makes others worry about who this person really is and or whether they really know him.
Treats others with contempt and arrogance.
Is constantly assessing for those who are a threat or those who revere him.
Hates to be embarrassed or fail publicly – when he does he acts out with rage.
Doesn’t seem to feel guilty for anything he has done wrong nor does he apologize for his actions.
Believes he possesses the answers and solutions to world problems.
Believes himself to be a deity or a chosen representative of a deity.
Uses enforcers or sycophants to insure compliance from members or believers.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201208/dangerous-cult-leaders
There are actually DI Forum members posting about how they are donating a week’s wages, selling off their valuables and whatnot to raise money for TPV and do the mods discourage them? hell no…. and what of Richie Allen saying that their accounts have been hacked into? a crock that is as well, perhaps PayPal should be informed that TPV presenters are saying that their donating accounts have been hacked into, I’m sure they would be interested in checking into that since it could effect their own reputation.
Talk about cognitive dissonance guilting people into donating whilst also saying it is at the edge of folding under, within days. Asking people to donate whilst stating that the accounts have been hacked into.
No doubt as well that there is ALOT that hasn’t come out yet.
That is a very accurate description of Icke, absolutely spot on. As for that Richie fella, i call him the walking tower of Babel.
What an angry rant! He seems convinced that TPV will save people if not the world. This either desperate marketing or he is seriously deluded about his place in the world. Maybe equal amounts of both…
His hectoring and verbal abuse of stingey viewers and critics is consistent with his previous behavior. But he is really laying it on. And he attacks his old mate Russell Brand!
But the real thing of interest is his total refusal to take personal responsibility for the likely failure of TPV: as always it was someone else in this case the collective failure of viewers to show their appreciation for undoubted brilliance of the programming and the inspiring content by opening their wallets, poor management and dull and misleading programs have nothing to do with it.
I also like his description of his latest book as “fact”! Now that is unlikely.
Personally I suspect that TPV was set up to fail from the outset, they cannot be that stupid, they know full well that people are struggling through an economic depression and when looking at mod posts in the DI Forum you can see that many of the DI sycophants and Mods under the jurisdiction of Sean Adl are putting tremendous pressure on members to donate, donate, donate and it doesn’t matter one iota if many of those members can afford to donate often more than they already have or not. They have booted off even people who have been giving monthly donations to TPV for even questioning the finances or the contradictions of what is being stated by the inner core of the Public Limited Company called TPV. David (and Sean?) OWN the David Icke forum so they can do what they want, they change the terms of agreement that members agree to when deciding to become a member without informing members that those terms of agreement have been changed, but they grant themselves the moral prerogative to do this or anything else they choose to do including BANNING and SUSPENDING many genuine truth seekers merely for questioning or using their critical thinking skills when it comes to TPV, Seany and David icke, They give themselves every legal and moral right to do this because it is David Icke’s website and neither he nor that twerp Sean think that people have a ‘right’ to be able to post in the forum at all, it is a privilege granted by them the OWNERS and they can do whatever they want, boot people off, ban them, suspend them with no warning or explanation, allow the mods to psychologically and verbally abuse members, allow the sycophants to heap abuse on those who question or are starting to see that they have been manipulated and things are not what they seem.
David in one of the above videos confirms yet again what I already know, that he looks down his nose and is very condescending towards bloggers and alternative website/forum members…..naaaa naaa naaa naaa …
even in his own forum unless they are licking his behind and are on side with the abuse and bullying of mods under the authority of Seany boy.. his whatever he is…. whatever hold it is that the twerp Sean has on him… whatever ties there are that are kept hidden…. whatever it is that is really holding David and Sean and Deanna and Liz and Richie and the abusive mods etc.. together. The producer has even treated at least one person by the name of Chris Spivey who they asked to be on TPV with utmost disrespect, he was not the hidden star they had lined up after all, they gave him little information then kept him waiting via Skype until after the interview on TPV was suppose to have started to let him know that he was not needed. http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/the-muppet-show/
I doubt that it’s the end of TPV though, I agree with earthling that there are hidden backers in this enterprise, hidden backers who could easily save the day and who could have paid for it all from the outset if that had been the plan.
.. and one more thing, David states in the above videos that he has earned not one penny from the David Icke website, I say bollocks to that, where does all the money earned from the advertisers on the website go, on top of that David uses the website to promote his books, appearances, his online shop etc.. he is earning money from that, the promotion of himself and his material and access to the online store is promoted via the website/forum as well as info on how and where to purchase David Icke t-shirts and hats is promoted in certain parts of the forum.. designs of which were ripped off from a guy who runs the fear and clothing company who dedicated his time and energy, helped raise $20,000 for TPV, had an agreement with David and Company to create the designs for the t-shirts etc.. then they ‘changed their minds’ and decided to get them done through a cheaper company possibly in Haiti and left the fear and clothing company in the lurch costing him all the work and energy they had put into it.
The guy who owns the fear and clothing company also ended up banned from the DI website forum when he complained about the way he had been used and mistreated, they then quickly unbanned him because someone realized the furor it was causing and how flipping badly it was all making them look.
Books and DVD’s and tickets for his shows are FOR SALE right there on his HEADLINE PAGE as soon as you click into the website. David Icke dot com shop http://www.davidicke.com/shop/ you also have the Premier Subscribers who are members who pay a fee to get access and privileges the non-premier subscribers get.
Not made a penny from the David Icke Website David?? PROVE IT!! no sense even trying to disprove it since it is all laid out in the front page of your own website.
I will make one more note: the above that I wrote doesn’t mean that I don’t think David has the right to promote his own material (though some would argue that some of his material has been plagiarized by people such as Alex Collier and Jordon Maxwell etc..) on his own website, he has the right to promote his own material, books, DVD”s, speaking engagements on his own website and to make money from it, what I take issue with is David stating that he doesn’t make a penny from his own website when it is clear that it is not the case.
Okay, done now, my apologies for adding on to my own posts, I tend to remember things after I have already posted the comment.
LOL. You’re on a roll today Mimi. I’ve just finished reading all the new comments. I read them all and just wonder to myself: How is it that some people can see clearly and others live in a constant fog?
Having said that, while it’s dangerous to admit (for obvious reasons) I truly believe that I (among others) have solutions to the world’s problems – however I, among others, recognise that that, to implement them would take a collaboration with many many other people. Icke’s stance is really that he, and he alone, can save the world. He had that belief in 1991 when he did not wish to collaborate with others to get things achieved on the Isle of Wight. He just wishes to stand there giving directions – i.e. total dictator. Yet, he really has no concept of what the solutions are nor would he be able to develop any plan whatsoever as to how to implement them if he did. The arrogance of this man is quite incredible.
Chris Spivey has kept his powder dry up until now wrt TPV and Icke (while, even now, he hasn’t criticised Icke, just TPV – a subtle difference that Icke will not understand of course) and that’s Spivey’s prerogative to have done so. I’ve just been very surprised that he has been unable or unwilling to (or perhaps just couldn’t care less about it) point the finger regarding the obvious issues (and perhaps more) I have already pointed to. Generally, what I have found amazing is the lack of alternative media/truth sites and figures actually picking up on the stuff I’ve written when many of them tend to promote themselves as anti-Icke and his rubbish.
I did get an invite from “Doomwatch” (UK Column affiliated) to do a radio appearance (and I thank the host – Alex Geairns – for that. I will have to get back to him however and decline (he may well have already assumed it) because it is not my intention to be part of the alt media “circus”. I have no confidence in it whatsoever. No disrespect to UKColumn and Alex.
You are the one who started this rolling mate, i bet Icke is fuming with you lol. As for Spivey, he is still linking to Icke. You are correct he has been keeping his powder dry, but i think maybe he genuinely does’nt want to attack another AM figure. He is a wily old fox imo, but i think he is a good fox, only time will tell really i suppose.
I assumed he would have wanted to get on tpv just to get more exposure, but apparently not, he says he does’nt need the publicity. I dont understand him on that point, but what the hell do i know? He is a sharp bloke and must have his reasons.
The lack of response to your work in the AM, i cannot really comment on as i have all but given up on it myself, but i do know you have made one hell of an impact, because of the comments here and on Spiveys site, and the hysterical reaction of Icke himself. You dont react like that unless you have been given a major kick in the b**ls imo.
You might even have holed the git beneath the water line. I do hope so.
Reading all posts on this… and most on here seems to have connected a few dots especially were isp addresses play an integral part. If the elite want a nwo and a proper system acvording to them, what road must they take to ensure things go to plan. It is of course a data base. And not just tpv mind. A complete data bank of peoples reactive responses.
The blogger earthling is the ememy of the state according to the elite infact everyone is who opposes them
So how much do you appose them. Since money is the god of thid system. You no doubt will purchase or donate with the strongest heart felt emotion which at that time is the ultimate of your truth. So those who donate for example are possibly seen as the most dangerous to nwo opposition. But hold on that doesn’t make sense. How can tpv who is agsinst the nwo ne actually a tool of the Nwo.. oh come on… patterns in history. .. do I need to say more. Anyway..
I do think data-mining is being done through the DI forum, those who are donating with allegiance would not be seen as the enemy of the NWO but unknowingly willing to go along with it. Those who oppose it and see through the bullying, lies and manipulation are the ‘enemy’ of the state.
The truth is often opposite to what it appears. In order to complete the New World Order, the Old World Order must be seen to be destroyed, this is where mass exposure of the corruption if the Old Order that is still in effect takes place, this is why the mass media is allowing to a certain extent…. the corruption of the existing order to be exposed, this is why they allow even alternative ‘rebels’ a mass audience to a certain extent, it is why ‘they’ allow big alternative icons to reach a mass audience through books, the internet, even tv shows like ‘conspiracy theory’ with Jesse Ventura etc.. The Old and Existing Order must die for the complete rise of the NWO to take effect. On a spiritual level.. much of what David Icke promotes is in ALIGNMENT with the New World Order Religion/Spirituality and the ONENESS that is being promoted through the United Nations Spiritual Foundations, people like Oprah Winfrey, Ekhart Tolle, Deepak Chopra etc.. all of whom are allowed to have a mass audience.
Link for the Spiritual Foundation of the United Nations:
http://www.aquaac.org/un/found.html
This is also why any and all of what is seen as ‘absolutist’ religions are being destroyed, those who believe in One Creator of the Universe are unlikely to submit to the smorgasbord that is the New World Religion that incorporates pretty much all the religions (watered down) and spiritual paths on an equal footing but is leading to a luciferian doctrine of submission and control. I know that sounds out there but such as it is, it also goes back the Mystery Babylon religions that William Cooper was educating people about before he was murdered as well as theosophy ala Alice Bailey, Helena Blavatsky and Freemasonry.
The Mystery Babylon Series by William Cooper
https://archive.org/details/MysteryBabylonSeries-WilliamCoopertranscriptIncl
David Icke is not out of alignment with the hidden agenda, whether he knows that or not is another question. It is one reason why I suspect that hidden backers will save the day either for TPV or another Global Television Network similar to TPV but much better funded and promoted as well as technologically advanced.
Agree with that entirely Mimi. I had never looked into Icke in detail until just after I left TPV. When I did, I saw the parallels with the UN. Not just parallels but perfectly in line.
Why do people knock spiritual principles based on their own ignorance as if everything comes from planted propaganda and new age bullshit. It is not all bullshit, it is just outside the realm of your understanding and darkened by intellect. Just because tptb put out a lot of spin does not make it all nonsense period.
The whole world is pre programmed in one way or other and everyone is pulling each other to pieces through the sheer scope of mistrust of the established corrupt system. One thing is shit so then must it all be.
What would you understand about oneness other than the bullshit version and give an actual experiential account of it!
Instead of knocking each others principals it’s about time we sought solutions and compared them and see if it’s good in reality as it is on paper.
For the last two weeks since TPV was publicly attacked in a concerted campaign to discredit the station many strange things have been happening with regard to hacking. This has included the hacking of the operating system, the hacking and defacing of the Indiegogo appeal page and now the hacking and deletion of reams of content from the TPV YouTube page.
Well, how they must care for the free-flow of information and human freedom.
The shop at Davidicke.com has also been hacked and currently deleted by hacking into emails sent by the webmaster by people who are beyond evil.
We are pretty certain who is behind this and who has been working with them from the ‘inside’ while claiming to be supporting the ethos. They, of course, do not and never have, and when they leave shortly there is little doubt that they will do everything they can to damage TPV once the benefits they have taken from the station have ended. When people say ‘all will be revealed in two weeks’ this is what they mean.
Good, and when they do the widest possible audience will know who they are and the nature of their character.
So the source of the ‘revelations’ when they come will also be revealing who is behind this attempt by hackers to destroy everything that we have built and The People have paid for.
Those that come from the heart rather than the gut and the bile duct will now begin the painstaking job of re-posting the content to the YouTube page because they are builders, not self-obsessed destroyers.
It is my experience over all the years that some of the deepest evil that I have come across has claimed to be opposing evil and ‘working for the light’ and the good of people.
What is happening here to TPV is yet another example.
Watching people self-destruct in public is not a pretty sight, but it is coming. So bring on the ‘revelations’ and then everyone will see who you are.
Why would this be “recorded live via Skype” rather than recorded on his webcam off-air to give better quality. Stinks of manipulation doesn’t it? What he says, how he says it and the low quality video feed. Walter Mitty is probably turning in his grave…..
I am quite sure Icke uses hypnotic techniques on some of his videos. I have seen some of his older videos and they have had really suspect visuals with the music jumping from left ear to right, spirals, different psychedelic colours etc. I could be wrong but i believe it anyhow.
On this skype one , did you notice how he moved back and forth in his chair, close then away from the screen repeatedly. He could have a bad case of pyles but he is bloody irritating beyond belief to me.
OK-They raised £300,000 which was £200,000 more than they originally intended. What if they had only managed to raise £100,000. They still planned to go ahead on that amount right, I assume??? So what was the business plan?? Here we are 6/7 weeks after the launch having `miraculously` got £200,000 more and Icke is claiming its on its knees unless it gets cash now. I only got Grade 3 CSE in maths and this is a rough estimate, but going by these figures (IE £300,000 for about 2 months worth of `broadcasting`) then I can only deduce that it will cost somewhere in the region of £2 Million a year to keep this limited scope/limited appeal show `on air.` The whole thing is a bad joke. I think the legacy of the Peoples Voice is likely to be that Russel Brand will probably be able to squeeze 10 minutes of poor `comedy` material out of Icke having a go at him.
This post has a screenshot of from Sonia Poulton’s facebook page claiming that the most of the ‘volunteers’ there are being paid £100 per day! This would explain where some of the money has gone.
Looks like TPV is a job creation scheme for Icke’s family and close mates… cause I bet it’s not random people who get chosen to be ‘volunteers’. Did someone say Animal Farm?
Moreover, that would explain why they never seem reply to offers of help from genuine volunteers… they’ve got all the ‘volunteers they need 😉
http://sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/92260-the-people-s-voice.html?start=2160#169220
That’s if the allegations are true… we only have Sonia’s word at the moment. And she’s misrepresented discussions with earthling about an idea for an article recently.
It’ll be interesting to see if evidence to back up her claims come to light…
I am a little suspicious because Sonia claims she was paid £500 a month, working 11 hours a day, five days a week. She was a major star and host there and yet the volunteers made more than she did? Doesn’t seem right. That could explain why she was so upset over the money or that she is lying about what volunteers were making.
There is another major problem with that statement by Sonia. Richie Allen stated he was making enough to cover his mortgage (which is £1200/month). He could then have been making more than that a month but he said it covered his mortgage so then, at least, £1200/mth. Now WHY would he be getting paid at least £1200/mth and Sonia £500/mth (although I am positive she said somewhere it was £300/mth. You see? NONE of this is transparent at all and none of it adds up.
Yes,strange. Why would Sonia lie about what she was making unless David really doesn’t believe we are all equal and that men should be paid more than women? Surely Sonia is a more professional presenter and bigger draw than Richie. If Richie’s mortgage was covered by TVP since the place also houses DI, then I can see what Sonia and others were upset. Definitely needs more transparency. The figures don’t add up.
Also if Richie’s mortgage were covered, then DI was living off TPV’s money which is disgraceful considering all the money he has already earned. I bet TPV’s money was covering his living expenses, food, everything. Why should he pay rent when TPV is covering Richie’s mortgage? No wonder everyone is up in arms over there.
I’m starting believe that Sonia’s version of what’s happening at TPV may be correct.
Here’s a link to a blog by some who appears to been working at TPV and has been left totally disillusioned by the experience:
http://motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/
Here’s an excerpt from her post:
“Media Whores” is a term frequently used by alternative media about Main Stream Media, the people who sold their souls to work mainstream, who learned to play nasty games, to shag anything just to get along. The People’s Voice is full of these people. They are still playing their games, but now they have volunteers and people who refuse to play these games to manipulate. People go into that environment, believing the hype, believing that truth will come out, that here will be honesty and respect. I have seen so many people hurt and humiliated at the People’s Voice, for no other reason than some stupid “Luvvie” is on another ego trip. I cannot allow myself to be silent when that is still going on…
People ask where has all the money gone ? Lots of it has gone on these “Media Whores” the production teams all get paid. The Producer, editors and “Star” all get paid, get paid shedloads. David Icke gave “Media Whores” power over activists and truthers, he allowed the sell outs to manipulate the decent people, he gave the bullies power over gentle people, and they are taking full advantage. “Media Whores” Having learned their despicable trade in the much detested Main Stream Media are now corrupting The People’s Voice.
http://motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/
Looks like donators have pissed their hard-earned cash away on a con of epic proportions!
It is correct. It reflects exactly the same type of attitude I experienced. However, my experience of Sonia being willing to take something completely out of context with a wilful aim to smear me doesn’t give me 100% confidence in any way about her agenda. The TPV crew may be media whores but, the way I see it, so is Sonia. It’s a war of the “media whores” to see who is of most importance. Some “enlightenment” that is!
I agree earthling. They’ve all got their own agendas… which is usually power, personal gain or both!
Anyone, or any organisation who claim to represent the ‘people’ and have the all solutions for society’s problems are usually conmen/women and grade A bullshitters.
I just wish more people would apply a bit of critical thinking, and common sense before lining up to support and follow patently transparent frauds.
Reblogged this on SilvaRizla.
Your cards they are a tumbling and falling,
Pennies from heaven can not save you now,
For you destiny has come a calling,
Yet your demise seems a pity somehow.
But your days they have always been numbered,
Alongside all the steps that you would take,
To save each opportunity blundered,
Not just for your’s but everyone’s sake.
Your sheep are naked lost up on the moor,
Your dogs have been barking up the wrong tree,
One thing will remain forever for sure,
The simple fact that you never fooled me,
Though I smile as you take your final bow,
Your demise still seems a pity somehow.
He’s the Director (of TPV) for one simple reason to be ‘the Guardian on the Gates of the Ethos”…”so that no one can get in…claiming to support what we do…and take it over…. and destroy it”
Wow… the Guardian of the Gates of the Ethos… sounds almost mythological…or…rather like a ‘handler’ in the world of celebrity… the one who controls access and keeps all the so-called ‘bad’ people out or the normal people or the sane people…. while an inner clique in a very tight circle of manipulators rule the roost.
that poem is very touching… and so true in this case… thanks for sharing it.
To preach freedom of expression while at the same time smashing freedom of expression is a contradiction to say the least, and hypocritical as well. David has said ‘question EVERYTHING’ and that either holds true or it doesn’t. You have discernment and that is clear in the poem that you posted to enact a discussion, that poem hits a chord, on a truth…. so it was not allowed to stand.. lest people think too deeply. Thank you again for posting it here.
Hi, I just tried to start a thread on the Icke forum regarding my thoughts on the tpv fiasco and it was instantly closed without any explanation or forewarning. It was not my intention to do anything other than provoke a discussion as to how the whole situation could be turned around to achieve a positive outcome for the ‘truth’ movement as a whole. All I did was post a poem called ‘Advice Kid’ and notes. I have posted the same poem and notes on poemhunter in the hope that it may open up the debate to a wider audience of people who may not be aware of the machinations of the alternative media. Here is the link and notes:
http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/advice-kid/
‘The title is an anagram of David Icke.
Pennies from heaven refers to his constant begging for money from his followers who perceive him to be some kind of saviour.
Opportunites blundered refers to the fact that although he has made a hash of The People’s Voice he could fix it through accepting responsibility and moving on instead of blaming those who haven’t sent him money.
Sheep is his favourite way of describing people who fail to follow his preachings. They are naked because they have been fleeced.
Dogs refers to the moderators on his forum who are rabid in their blind defence of him.
And yes his demise is a shame considering the good he could have done.’
How can David continue to preach freedom of expression and yet stifle the very same on his forum?
Hi I was sent here by a comment on my blog, I never really thought anything of Icke until a friend of mine, who is working at TPV was being bullied and ostracized at work they begged me to come and help, and I believed that I could help.
this is what I found
http://motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/
I am sure you can understand that I feel drained and, like others disappointed,
May I rest here a while please
You’re welcome to Sharon. Join the “party”. 🙂
Thank you !
allegedly from The People’s Voice, they will need even more money now,if they are going to take me to court for libel now !
“Having been pointed to your blog, I have seen several libelous comments regarding the use of drugs, and drug paraphernalia at TPV. Individuals have been libeled in your blog and in subsequent comments. This blog has been screen captured and is being passed on to our solicitors. on The Fatal Flaws at “The People’s Voice”
Sharon, I would not even blink about “legal action”. This is empty threats by a desperate and hypocritical bunch of people and there would be FAR more for them to answer to in the court of public opinion than you simply stating what you saw and experienced. Remember what these goons themselves say: Truth prevails. I suggest they remember that. While they have the audacity to use the very system (or threaten to use) which they continuously expose to be corrupt to the core. What does that tell anyone with half sense?
lmao
Regarding the youtube ‘hack’ and videos lost…
When I film something on my camera/phone, I upload it to youtube.. the original source of the film is still on my phone? So how can they say they LOST these videos?