MH370: “I’ll rule that one out”
Oh you will will you? Just dismiss it? Best way to handle such a question Carney isn’t it?
US officials in Kuala Lumpur are working “in close cooperation with the Malaysian government,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said at his daily briefing, calling the search “a difficult and unusual situation”:
They are in a truly agonizing situation. We remain fully committed to assisting the Malaysians and working with our other international partners … I can assure you we are in a close, collaborative relationship.
Asked about the notion that the plane could have landed at Diego Garcia, the US military base in the central Indian Ocean, Carney was dismissive:
“I’ll rule that one out.”
When no-one is allowed to go anywhere near that island and when it is restricted to Armed Forces such that even the government who owns the island – the British Government – have restrictions placed on them from visiting; Plus, because the island has no “settled population” it does not come under the International Criminal Court’s jurisdiction, it CAN be “dismissed” with impunity by people like you – lackeys for people like Obama and the British establishment. Such questions are simply emptied into the “Black hole” called “Diego Garcia”.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/18/mh370-missing-plane-search-live
Ever heard of the guy who was previously in your position Jay? His name was Robert Gibbs. Just have a quick listen mate then you tell the world why it should listen to you!
You are sociopathic liars Carney. It’s more than your job’s worth (and that is all you are – a “jobsworth”) to even acknowledge the question of Diego Garcia. How many CIA operations have been declassified decades after the event mate? How many fake wars through false flags have your Presidents got us involved with? How many assassinations for political expediency has your government and friendly governments, carried out? The list is never ending Carney. And you’re nothing but a mouth with an arm stuck up your anus!
But the American public are too damned scared of acknowledging it because of what it would lead to! And the rest of the world plays ball with you because you’re the big bad wolf (in sheep’s clothing). Along with your “jewish” buddies!
MH370: Pilot had Diego Garcia included on his simulator
12.46 Intriguing new line from The Malay Mail Online.
Police scouring Capt Shah’s flight simulator – which he installed in his home – have found five Indian Ocean practice runways.
One is in the Maldives.
One is on Diego Garcia.
The other three are in India and Sri Lanka.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10704769/Malaysian-Airlines-MH370-live.html
So, not such a crazy idea after all. We have the Anwar/Globalist issue. Anwar now coming out to admit he’s related to the pilot. We know why the west wants to destabilise Malaysia and we know the CIA are active in Malaysia and have been for some time. We also know the Council on Foreign Relations is happy with Anwar and the west definitely want him as their man in Malaysia.
We know it is highly unlikely that this plane could have travelled across multiple territories such as the northern arc suggests without being spotted. The southern arc leads to nowhere. So what’s left?
Why fly over Maldives instead of direct to Diego Garcia? Well it makes sense to me. You see, by doing so (if, in fact it did) it would give the possibility of being spotted by the Maldives. It would then suggest that the plane was heading to Africa. The straight line between Maldives and Africa suggests the flight is heading toward…..
SOMALIA!
And we all know who live in Somalia don’t we? It’s full of pirates and Al Qaeda! 🙂 So we’re told by our wonderful media programming on behalf of our governments.
So then what do we expect next? Well, what I expect is for Israel to start screaming! “Oy vey! Oy Vey! They have a plane now in Somalia loaded up with nuclear bombs. The Iranians are in on it! We need to destroy Iran before they use it. They’re going to wipe out Jerusalem and the Temple Mount! Oy vey! Oy vey! The International community must now attack Iran and Somalia and destroy half the middle east so we, god’s people, can continue to live on this planet, in peace and suck the life out of every last living human creature with our monetary system!”
Ok perhaps I’ve slightly overdone what the Israeli’s might say and demand but have I? They’re fricking “religious” (yet atheist?!) nutters! And they’re desperate for a war!
MH370: KL to Mauritius Flying time
Why are the officials trying to keep this search in the two arcs (quite massive arcs by the way, suggesting that the satellite really doesn’t have a clue)? A wild goose chase? You see, the likelihood of the plane taking the northern arc and not being spotted is damned unlikely no matter what all the “Talking Heads” say.
Further, the plane would not turn back on itself heading in a south westernly direction right back over Malaysia and Malacca if it just intended to go back up toward that arc. It really doesn’t make much sense if you think about it. Further, yes they can say but then it took another sharp turn pointing, once more, in a more northernly direction. Yes it did but it was flying between waystations for a purpose and then it just disappeared off military radar but it had come way south to then head north again?? Plus, heading northwest from that point (assuming from then on pretty straight) would take it over Indian airspace and there are enough people saying it is highly doubtful it would get through and I, for one, agree with them.
So, my theory (and that is all it is but it’s based a little more on logical reasoning from my perspective) is that it turned south once more, once it evaded radar (AWACS helped or not) and it flew in the direction of Mauritius.
We’re told it was active (flying or otherwise) for another 7 hours after it was lost from radar. Well, here’s the flying time to Mauritius:
I’m just saying it didn’t go to Mauritius – it went to Diego Garcia and was led there.
Here’s the “arc” of the covenant they keep showing us:
This is based on Inmarsat “pings” to the below cabin ACARS so we are told. Now, Inmarsat is tied to military and government contracts. Yes it provides commercial services but, if the British government says “jump” in the name of “national security”, Inmarsat will do just that.
Here’s what David Coiley had to say:
David Coiley, a vice president of Inmarsat, a British satellite telecommunications provider, said the missing plane had been equipped with an Inmarsat signaling system that sends out a “keep-alive message” to establish that the plane’s communications system is still switched on.
The plane sent out a series of such messages after civilian radar lost contact, he said. Those messages later stopped, but he declined to specify precisely when or how many messages had been received. Mr. Coiley said Inmarsat was sharing the information with the airline and investigators.
“It does allow us to determine where the airplane is relative to the satellite,” he said of the signal, which he likened to the “noises you might hear when a cellphone sits next to a radio or a television speaker.” He said: “It does allow us to narrow down the position of the aircraft” — at the moment when the signal was sent.
Such equipment automatically checks in to satellites, much as a mobile phone would check in to a network after passing through a mountain tunnel, he said. Because the pings go over a measurable distance at a specific angle to one of the company’s satellites, the information can be used to help calculate the trajectory of an aircraft and narrow its approximate location — though not necessarily its resting point.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370.html?_r=0
So let’s just consider what he’s saying here:
In the same article, it states those pings went on for hours after the plane disappeared from all radar. Some reports have said 7 hours. However, why would Mr Coiley decline to say how many messages had been received and yet, we are provided the “arcs” by the officials? These arcs are the same as saying for how long and how many pings were received but Mr Coiley doesn’t wish to provide that detail. Why? What is so “classified” about such information considering what is at stake and that people wish to know? What could, if anything, such detail give away (either to “bad men” or just the public and, perhaps, other pilots or aircraft engineering people who could then work something out from them?).
He then goes on to say it allows us to determine where the plane is relative to the satellite….narrow down the position. Well does it? Two arcs, thousands of miles long is all we are given and even they are suggested as being the last point or outer edge of where the plane could have flown to. Why just give the arc for the final ping while not being willing to say how many pings? Also, where was the plane, approximately, at the points earlier pings were sent? While, if, as said below, the aircraft could have been hijacked using a mobile phone and a USB stick, then to suggest AWACS taking over is a walk in the park. You see, the “anti terror” expert, Aunty Sally (I once had an Aunty Sally) will promote such ideas because that suits the narrative. Suggesting a British/American/Globalist plot just doesn’t fit does it? And never will of course. But a terrorist may be smart (although I don’t believe they are and very few such entities actually exist. Al Qaeda being CIA for example) but not this smart.
Seems to be an element of planning? Sure honey, you can be sure of that! And sophisticated systems engineering understanding? I have no doubt. You’re actually making it even clearer that this was a sophisticated operation and that’s what was said on 9/11 – that it was believed it took governments to be involved – the Israelis said that to have a pretext to target the governments they wished to target of course, but noone ever wishes to consider that THEY could be that government, or UK or America. Nope! You consider that and you’re crazy. Then I’m batshit nuts!
But back to the arcs and the position of the satellite (Inmarsat 3F 64.5deg East)
Those arcs have been plotted, in fact, by a mix of what we’re told is the last ping on inmarsat and the anticipated running out of fuel. It would seem, from what I’ve read elsewhere, is that all Inmarsat is capable of doing is taking a measurement of the angle and amplitude of the signal it receives and, knowing the output power of the signal from the ACARS equipment in the plane, it works out a relative distance form triangulation. This means that the satellite is, to a great degree, guessing the position of the aircraft AND, furthermore, as you can see from the arcs presented, it cannot locate the actual terrestrial co-ordinates in any way. That means that the reality is that those arcs can be considered to be a complete circle and the plane could have ended up anywhere on that circle. The satellite uses spot beams and a global beam. In this case, it uses it’s global beam which is just one big, massive circle. Now why are they trying to suggested only those two arcs and not a complete circle? Well, I’d guess they want the search area to be as large as possible to keep people searching and searching while they do not wish us to even consider that the plane went south west toward Mauritius, Africa and flying anywhere near Diego Garcia. Because for us to consider that, they know people would be saying “Wait a minute, there is no way that plane would not be spotted by Diego Garcia!” This may just lead people to consider that, in fact, Diego Garcia may have been the destination and was meant to be it’s destination.
If it flew for hours (possibly up to 7.5 hours) then Diego Garcia is no problem to reach.
MH370: You just CANNOT be serious!
Do you remember the story of the CNN crew that found Osama Bin Laden and interviewed him when the US government were wanting to get their hands on him at the same time prior to 9/11?
It was, then kind of coincidental that the man then ended up allegedly doing what he did isn’t it?
And it just so happened to be CNN who managed to interview what turned out to be the world’s most wanted man.
Well, believe it or not, and I don’t in the sense that this is one HELL of a coincidence, CNN have struck again!
John McEnroe would be proud!
There are some deeply sinister people in this world and they’re having a laugh at our expense.
MH370: The authorities are not telling us something!
It has just occurred to me that the authorities have ignored (or seem to have ignored) one very important aspect of this series of events surrounding MH370.
While we have been told that some chinese relatives have made cellular phone calls to some of the passengers’ mobiles, that is then all that has been said on the subject. The calls connected and yet, unless I am mistaken, noone has followed up on this very major issue.
The fact that mobile calls were made (and connected) means that the location of that received call can be determined to within the footprint of a cellular base station which, at most, is a few Km in diameter.
What are we not being told here? There are no ifs, buts or maybes about this. This is a fact. The very base station in any particular country where the call was received (and they are ALL tracked due to the need to route a call through the various networks and switches) is known. So then why has the “line” gone quiet regarding this?
The chinese people who have made those calls and connected have provided very accurate data as to where their family members were (assuming they had their mobile with them, which, wouldn’t it be just the norm if the authorities said they didn’t for some reason or another?).
NEW YORK – Telecommunications experts say the odds that passengers’ cellphone data can help locate the missing Malaysian jetliner are next to zero.
This is an article on Fox News Network regarding the possibility of location using the cellphones.
Locating the mobile phones of the 239 travelers on the Boeing 777 that vanished Saturday isn’t as simple as activating a “Find My iPhone” app, given the speed the plane was traveling, its altitude and the fact it was probably flying over water. Many people assume smartphones to be all-powerful tracking devices. Often police, rescue units and others can use a person’s phone to pinpoint the user’s precise location. Even so, there are large portions of the planet that don’t have the transmission towers that are necessary for mobile communications. In the case of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, smartphones are unlikely to lead investigators to the plane.
[This very sentence, above, tells us (and anyone who has worked in wireless telecommunications can verify it) that UNLESS the phone is within the footprint of a Base Station, you would not even get a connection. This, therefore, proves (if the families calls were connected to the phones of the passenger family members) that the passengers were within the footprint of a base station AND were not travelling at an altitude of 35,000ft or anywhere near it. Cellular base station antennas as highly directional – there are omni directional antennas but then, being omni, their power is not as focused and there is no way that a phone 35000ft in the air (even 5 or 10000ft) would make a connection – and, being highly directional, they focus their energy DOWN (they are tilted downwards toward the ground since not too many birds have mobiles – not yet anyhow). The signal strength at altitude, then falls off exponentially very quickly.]
Note: Antenna on mast pointing down:
and this is the antenna pattern (basically the power lobes and sidelobes of the antenna. You can see that the power drops off with distance and it is focused into a narrow beam. The last thing a mobile network wants is the loss of masses of power into the sky!
Here’s what you need to know about mobile connections and how they’re used to determine location:
Q: Can telecommunications providers remotely locate a phone?
A: Yes, if the phone is turned on and is connected to either a cellular or Wi-Fi network, says Ritch Blasi, senior vice president for mobile and wireless at the consulting firm Comunicano. Apps like “Find My iPhone” only function properly when a phone is able to receive a location signal from a GPS satellite and relay that signal via cell connection or Wi-Fi to those who are searching for it. [But this is considering apps using GPS etc. It is ignoring the basic, fundamental routing of a call through the network switches and base stations. This comment is talking about consumer-style location based services. A base station coverage cell, as identified by its Cell Global Identity (CGI) number, maps to the radio coverage of a BTS. Similarly an LA as identified by its Location Area Identity (LAI) number , is a cluster of cells served by a single MSC/VLR. A group of LA under the control of the same MSC/VLR defines the MSC/VLR area. A Public Land Mobile Network (PLMN) is the area served by one network operator.]
Q: Does this change when you’re on a plane?
A: Yes, considerably. For one thing, most airlines require passengers to turn their phones off or at least put them in airplane mode before takeoff. [Yes because they interfere but also, at altitude, they are useless anyhow! That is why NO calls were made by anyone using a cellphone on 9/11. A Skyphone maybe but NOT a cellphone. That is why the woman – I forget their names now – who was meant to have called and spoken to her Dept of Justic husband, in fact didn’t. Even the FBI confirmed this, which means her husband is a liar and that is one monumental lie he told because it was her call that started the whole story about men with boxcutters and yet the call NEVER took place!] That means there’s no connection to a cellular network, says Blasi. Even if some passengers left their phones on during Flight 370, it would be tough for their phones to connect with a tower given the speeds planes travel at and the altitudes involved. [Exactly! So then HOW and to who and where di these members of the passengers’ families get a connection? Because, somewhere, the plane was on the ground! Again, absolutely no ifs buts or maybes about this. These mobile phones were within site of a base station located on the ground]
Q: What about flying over the ocean?
A: Flying over oceans reduces the odds of a connection even more, since there just aren’t cell towers there [Correct and obvious]. Charles McColgan, chief technology officer for the mobile identity firm TeleSign says that while investigators might be able to determine the last cell tower that cellphones had contact with before the plane started flying over water, if the plane was flying above 10,000 feet at the time, the phones on it wouldn’t be able to make a connection with a tower. [I’d even question seriously flying at 5000ft or less and at speed]
“Anyone leading the investigation should check, but it is unlikely that pinging a passenger’s phone is going to find them,” McColgan says. [Yes they SHOULD check. They should be contacting the telecommunications network provider who routed these calls. Have they done it? No, not that I know of. Why? THAT is a VERY interesting question!]
Q: What if the plane managed to crash on land and some people and phones survived?
A: If someone could get a signal, in theory they could make a call. But if the plane went down in a remote area without service, then they would be out of luck. Foreign travel also complicates things. Unless a person signs up for local phone service in whatever country they’re traveling through, his or her phone may not be able to connect to a network, says Blasi, who spent more than 35 years at AT&T before going into consulting. [No, you don’t have to sign up for “local service” – he’s suggesting you need to call a provider for this. No, you just request or ensure you have roaming from your own provider. This is normal and most people have it if they travel at all. There were Freescale employees on that flight and there is no way they would not have had their mobiles roaming if they didn’t also have something like a Blackberry.]
Q: What about reports of people who claim they called the phones of loved ones who were on the flight and said the phone rang several times without an answer, rather than going straight to voice mail, indicating that the phone might be connected to a network?
A: This doesn’t necessarily mean that the phone is connected to a network, is turned on, or is even operational. It just means that the cellular carrier’s system is taking some time to look for the phone. [Rubbish! If there was ringtone then the network had located the phone AND it was operational. It MAY have been turned off BUT, nevertheless, it would HAVE to have been in the location of a base station and that network provider will have the details of where (which base station) that call was routed to and on which network if an international roaming call]
Each of the cell sites have their own cell identity. That cell identity is known for every call/connection which takes place in a network because the call made needs to “find” the mobile it is calling before the set up of a connection can take place. If the phone is “ringing” then the network has located that phone!
Q: Is there any hope if the plane crashed in the water and the phones on board were soaked? [Stupid bloody question!]
A: Water and electronics don’t mix, so generally speaking the answer is no.
So, the bottom line is this: The authorities have not, as I understand it, even followed up this line of enquiry and that, to me, is very very telling. There is something they don’t want us to know! There are telecommunications network operators out there who have that information.
Wherever, on the planet, those mobiles were, there is a specific, known, identified cell tower which connected them.
Addendum:
I have now just found this exact same article/interview posted on an Australian new outlet’s page. It would seem someone has been tasked to BROADCAST a message to the world that it is “unlikely” that the mobile phones can be of any use. It is then being rebroadcast as “fact” while missing the entire point – the mobiles connected! Someone is trying to subdue this issue. That is quite clear. While the authorities have not even followed the scent! What you have is some half baked “specialist” saying it would not be useful – that is total rubbish! – but the airline and investigative authorities have not even suggested they are looking into it! Now why would that be? People say they got a connection and yet the authorities do not contact the telecommunications network operators to follow where exactly the routing of those calls went?
It stinks!
Malaysian MH370: There’s at least one turd in the punchbowl.
All those countries; All those ships and aircraft while, at the very same time, there are people out there, belonging to one or more of those very same countries, who know precisely, the fate of MH370. Just think about that because that, I can assure you, is a fact.
There may be Captains of certain vessels out there from the very country(s) who carried out this example of state (or state sponsored) terrorism/hijacking, who don’t know they are being led on a wild goose chase (or, indeed, they may be fully aware) while they “trawl” the seas for wreckage I believe they will never find.
Which countries are taking part?
Malaysia has deployed around 18 aircraft and 27 ships, including the submarine support vessel MV Mega Bakti which is able to detect objects in water at depths of up to 1,000m.
Huge numbers of maritime police, air force and other personnel are also taking part in the hunt.
China, Vietnam, USA, Thailand, Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, New Zealand, Japan, India and the Philippines are also contributing ships, aircraft and personnel, while other nations such as Brunei have also offered support.
The majority of the 239 people on board flight MH370 were Chinese, and Beijing has dispatched four warships to help in the search and rescue mission.
First to be sent was the frigate Mianyang which was diverted to the south-east of Vietnam. It was joined by the landing craft Jinggangshan and its support vessels.
Destroyer Haikou and amphibious landing ship Kunlunshan set off on Sunday from two southern Chinese ports with a 50-strong marine corps as well as assault boats and rubber dinghies aboard, according to the People’s Liberation Army ( PLA) Navy.
On Tuesday, China said it also deployed four civilian ships, two military aircraft, and up to 10 satellites, to assist the search.
And somebody (or somebodies) – high up in the chain of command of one or a few of those countries – knows exactly what’s going on. Who would you guess that, or those, countries are? If I thought for one second that the truth would come out, I’d lay every penny I have left to my name, my house, my car, everything, on the USA. Either people within the government (most likely), people at the highest echelons of the world banking community (most likely) and the intelligence services. There is no doubt in my mind of that. Not a single one.
The question is why? And what have they done with the plane? Well as to why, I covered my idea in a previous blog on the subject. As to what they have done with the plane? Who knows? Certainly not me. But we can have our suspicions based upon what we sense from all that is being said and all that we know.
If you want me to take a “punt” on what’s happened to the plane, here is my “punt” (but that’s all it is right now and, of course, were it to be correct, we’ll never know UNLESS the USA wishes to start World War 3 that is).
Here is a map of the most up to date understanding (or belief) re the flight path the plane took. I have added my additional flight path belief to it in yellow:
Now, here is a line on Google Earth representing the distance between KL and Beijing – approximately 4000Km…
And here’s a similar line between KL and somewhere in the BRITISH Indian Ocean territory – approx 3500Km….
And here IS that BRITISH Indian Ocean territory…
There won’t be a lot of radar around that area of the world EXCEPT American Military radar. Why American military radar?
Well, because of this. What you’re looking at in the centre of that image is Diego Garcia…
A little background on Diego Garcia:
To accomplish the UK/United States mutual defense strategy, in November 1965, the UK purchased the Chagos Archipelago, which includes Diego Garcia, from the then self-governing colony of Mauritius for £3 million to create the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT), with the intent of ultimately closing the plantations to provide the uninhabited British territory from which the United States would conduct its military activities in the region.
On 30 December 1966, the United States and the UK executed an agreement through an Exchange of Notes which permit the United States to use the BIOT for defense purposes for 50 years (through December 2016), followed by a 20-year optional extension (to 2036) to which both parties must agree by December 2014. No monetary payment was made from the United States to the UK as part of this agreement or any subsequent amendment. Rather, the United Kingdom received a US$14 million discount from the United States on the acquisition of submarine-launched ballistic missile system Polaris missiles per a now-declassified addendum to the 1966 agreement.
In March 1971, United States Naval construction battalions (Seabees) arrived on Diego Garcia to begin the construction of the Communications Station and an airfield. To satisfy the terms of an agreement between the UK and the United States for an uninhabited island, the plantation on Diego Garcia was closed in October of that year. The plantation workers and their families were relocated to the plantations on Peros Bahnos and Salomon atolls to the northwest; those who requested were transported to the Seychelles or Mauritius. In 1972, the UK decided to close the plantations throughout the Chagos, including those on Peros Banhos and the Salomon Islands, and deported the Ilois to their ancestral homes on either the Seychelles or Mauritius. The then-independent Mauritian government refused to accept the islanders without payment, and in 1974, the UK gave the Mauritian government an additional ₤650,000 to resettle the islanders.
By 1973, construction of the Naval Communications Station (NAVCOMMSTA) was completed. In the early 1970s, setbacks to United States military capabilities in the region including the fall of Saigon, victory of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, the closure of the Peshawar Air Station listening post in Pakistan and Kagnew Station in Ethiopia, the Mayaguez incident, and the build-up of Soviet Naval presence in Aden and a Soviet airbase at Berbera, Somalia, caused the United States to request, and the UK to approve, permission to build a fleet anchorage and enlarged airfield on Diego Garcia, and the Seabees doubled the number of workers constructing these facilities.
Following the fall of the Shah of Iran and the Iran Hostage Crisis in 1979–1980, the West became concerned with ensuring the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz, and the United States received permission for a $400 million expansion of the military facilities on Diego Garcia consisting of two parallel 12,000-foot-long (3,700 m) runways, expansive parking aprons for heavy bombers, 20 new anchorages in the lagoon, a deep water pier, port facilities for the largest naval vessels in the American or British fleet, aircraft hangars, maintenance buildings and an air terminal, a 1,340,000 barrels (213,000 m3) fuel storage area, and billeting and messing facilities for thousands of sailors and support personnel.
In 2004, the UK applied for, and received, Ramsar Site status for the lagoon and other waters of Diego Garcia.
On 1 April 2010, the UK Cabinet declared the Chagos Archipelago a Marine Protected Area (MPA) and prohibited all extractive industry, including fishing and oil and gas exploration. It is unclear whether Diego Garcia is included in the MPA.
The Ramsar Convention (formally, the Convention on Wetlands of International Importance, especially as Waterfowl Habitat) is an international treaty for the conservation and sustainable utilization of wetlands, i.e., to stem the progressive encroachment on and loss of wetlands now and in the future, recognizing the fundamental ecological functions of wetlands and their economic, cultural, scientific, and recreational value. It is named after the city of Ramsar in Iran, where the Convention was signed in 1971.
Now isn’t that just “delicious”? Have the place protected, “for marine life you understand”, from “extractive industry” while then protecting a billion dollar Military site. “It’s for the birds and the fish you know!” Meanwhile, 1,151 people were displaced from their homes and the Mauritian government were paid £650,000 to resettle the the people. That’s roughly £565 per person. For the upending of their entire lives. But remember, this was paid to the government not to the people themselves. I’ll let you ponder that and wonder how much the people got. Yet the Mauritian government got paid £3m just for the land itself half a decade before. I wonder whose pockets that money went into? These people were ROYALLY (yes her again) fcuked. They had no choice, they didn’t wish to be resettled and they were told “We’ve agreed with your government. Cause any problems and you’ll find a bullet in your head.” And that’s international law for ya!
So now Diego garcia is used by the US/UK for extraordinary rendition flights. Things and people just disappear around that area you know. It’s like a man made Bermuda Triangle!
And yes, I just happen to think that there is a VERY good chance that MH370 has been “diverted” there. Just to give Malaysia a warning? No, there’s never just one reason for anything. 9/11 was staged for multiple reasons and I entirely believe this was too. For instance, just as Larry Silverstein made a shitload of cash for the double “terrorist” strike on the WTC which he owned and had just insured for precisely such an event(s), I have a sneaking suspicion that money was made from this event too. For example, as described in a previous article, the volume of trading in Malaysian Airlines shot up just the week before the event. The shares plummeted. Insider knowledge?
Secondly, there are reports that suggest there was a heavy load of cargo on that MH370 plane. So much so that, while the actually number of passengers was not to capacity of the aircraft (over 50 vacant seats), reports have suggested that there were a number of the passengers who flew standby. The reason given for this was that cargo uplift may have limited passenger capacity.
Question – how often does routine cargo on a passenger flight displace this much passenger uplift capacity?
If it was revealed that the cargo included a heavy valuable substance weighing as much as 50 passengers and their baggage, would this give pause for thought?
Passenger list also contained some 30 odd state of the art cyber warfare techies and execs from 5 global organisations, many with direct links to China. Coincidence?
Has anyone at the intended destination spoken up about not receiving any of their expected (valuable) cargo? There are two things they are not divulging (and yet must be known): Amount of fuel and the cargo onboard. Yes, fleeting mention has been made of the possibility of lithium batteries or something but that was just for the sake of another theory of how the plane may have caught fire. The Airline will know PRECISELY how much fuel the aircraft had AND what cargo was on it.
Just for the sake of an example:
If the flight was carrying a consigned gold cargo:
50pax * (75kg + 23kg) = 4900kg
Gold is approx US$1300/oz,
4900kg = 172842oz, therefore,
172842 * 1300 = US$224.7mil
The aforementioned figures are for example only, and intended just to highlight the scope of wealth that can be transported on such an aircraft.
Now, I’m not saying that there is a Malaysian Airlines 777 sitting on the tarmac in Diego Garcia right now. DG may well have just been a stop-over.
Think about it: The radars showing the new flightpath are suggesting what? That someone knew exactly what they were doing for one thing. But, in flying west, where were they thinking of taking it and landing without being intercepted? India? Sri Lanka? Iran? Saudi? To reach Iran would have necessitated flying over Indian airspace. If not, it would have had to have taken one hell of a detour and used up fuel (and fly closer to Diego Garcia with the chance of being picked up on their radar). Flying over Indian airspace would be a death sentence. Not only that, whoever “hijacked” it truly expected to be in the air for a substantial number of hours without being noticed or intercepted by radar and then military planes? Could it even have made Saudi or Iran on its fuel?
Missing Malaysia plane may have run out of fuel over Indian Ocean – source
WASHINGTON, March 14 Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:30am GMT
The source, who is familiar with data the U.S. government is receiving from the investigation into the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines plane, said the other, but less likely possibility, was that it flew on toward India.
The data obtained from pulses the plane sent to satellites had been interpreted to provide two different analyses because it was ambiguous, said the source, who declined to be identified because of the ongoing investigation.
But it offers the first real clues as to the fate of Flight MH370, which officials increasingly believe was deliberately diverted off its scheduled course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
Too many “sources” these days who decline to be identified in so many of our media’s stories!
Exclusive: Radar data suggests missing Malaysia plane flown deliberately toward Andamans – sources
BY NILUKSI KOSWANAGE AND SIVA GOVINDASAMY
KUALA LUMPUR Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:27am GMT
Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints – indicating it was being flown by someone with aviation training – when it was last plotted on military radar off the country’s northwest coast.
The last plot on the military radar’s tracking suggested the plane was flying toward India’s Andaman Islands, a chain of isles between the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal, they said.
Waypoints are geographic locations, worked out by calculating longitude and latitude, that help pilots navigate along established air corridors.
A third source familiar with the investigation said inquiries were focusing increasingly on the theory that someone who knew how to fly a plane deliberately diverted the flight, with 239 people on board, hundreds of miles off its intended course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
“What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards,” said that source, a senior Malaysian police official.
All three sources declined to be identified because they were not authorised to speak to the media and due to the sensitivity of the investigation.
Officials at Malaysia’s Ministry of Transport, the official point of contact for information on the investigation, did not return calls seeking comment.
Malaysian police have previously said they were investigating whether any passengers or crew had personal or psychological problems that might shed light on the mystery, along with the possibility of a hijacking, sabotage or mechanical failure.
The comments by the three sources are the first clear indication that foul play is the main focus of official suspicions in the Boeing 777’s disappearance.
As a result of the new evidence, the sources said, multinational search efforts were being stepped up in the Andaman Sea and also the Indian Ocean.
LAST SIGHTING
In one of the most baffling mysteries in modern aviation, no trace of the plane nor any sign of wreckage has been found despite a search by the navies and military aircraft of more than a dozen countries.
The last sighting of the aircraft on civilian radar screens came shortly before 1:30 a.m. Malaysian time last Saturday (1730 GMT Friday), less than an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur, as the plane flew northeast across the mouth of the Gulf of Thailand. That put the plane on Malaysia’s east coast.
Malaysia’s air force chief said on Wednesday an aircraft that could have been the missing plane was plotted on military radar at 2:15 a.m., 200 miles (320 km) northwest of Penang Island off Malaysia’s west coast.
This position marks the limit of Malaysia’s military radar in that part of the country, a fourth source familiar with the investigation told Reuters.
When asked about the range of military radar at a news conference on Thursday, Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said it was “a sensitive issue” that he was not going to reveal.
“Even if it doesn’t extend beyond that, we can get the cooperation of the neighbouring countries,” he said.
The fact that the aircraft – if it was MH370 – had lost contact with air traffic control and was invisible to civilian radar suggested someone aboard had turned its communication systems off, the first two sources said.
They also gave new details on the direction in which the unidentified aircraft was heading – following aviation corridors identified on maps used by pilots as N571 and P628. These routes are taken by commercial planes flying from Southeast Asia to the Middle East or Europe and can be found in public documents issued by regional aviation authorities.
In a far more detailed description of the military radar plotting than has been publicly revealed, the first two sources said the last confirmed position of MH370 was at 35,000 feet about 90 miles (144 km) off the east coast of Malaysia, heading towards Vietnam, near a navigational waypoint called “Igari”. The time was 1:21 a.m.
Malaysian PM says lost airliner was diverted deliberately
BY ANSHUMAN DAGA AND SIVA GOVINDASAMY
KUALA LUMPUR Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:19pm GMT
A week after the disappearance of flight MH370, Najib said its last transmission of satellite data came nearly seven hours after it disappeared from radar screens.
But the new satellite data gave no precise location, and the plane’s altered course could have taken it anywhere from central Asia to the southern Indian Ocean, he said.
Minutes after the Malaysian leader outlined investigators’ latest findings, police began searching the house of the aircraft’s 53-year-old captain for any evidence that he could have been involved in foul play.
The Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER vanished en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in the early hours of March 8 with 239 passengers and crew aboard.
Najib, giving his first statement at a news conference since then, confirmed reports that investigators believe somebody cut off the plane’s communications reporting system, switched off its transponder and steered it west, far from its scheduled route.
“In view of this latest development the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board,” he said.
“Despite media reports the plane was hijacked, I wish to be very clear, we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate.”
Search operations by navies and aircraft from more than a dozen nations were immediately called off in the Gulf of Thailand and the South China Sea to the east of Malaysia, where the plane dropped off civilian air traffic control screens at 1:22 a.m. last Saturday (1722 GMT on Friday).
Malaysia said new data showed the last communication between the missing plane and satellites at 8:11 a.m. (0011 GMT), almost seven hours after it turned back and crossed the Malay peninsula.
The data did not show whether the plane was still flying or its location at that time, presenting searchers with a daunting array of possible last locations. Seven hours’ more flying time would likely have taken it to the limit of its fuel load.
TWO CORRIDORS
Najib said the plane’s final communication with satellites placed it somewhere in one of two corridors: a northern arc stretching from northern Thailand to the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, or a southern one stretching from Indonesia to the vast southern Indian Ocean.
“Clearly, the search for MH370 has entered a new phase,” said Najib, whose government has come under criticism for its slow release of information surrounding one of the most baffling mysteries in aviation history.
India stepped up its search in two areas at the request of Malaysia – one around the Andaman and Nicobar Islands and another further west across the Bay of Bengal – but found no evidence that would indicate that the plane had come down in its waters, the Defence Ministry said.
A senior military official in Port Blair, capital of the archipelago, said Indian aircraft had combed waters stretching up to 300 nautical miles (550 km) offshore and overflown all 572 islands in the chain but “we don’t have anything so far”.
India’s Eastern Naval Command was investigating a separate rectangular ‘box’ 15 km wide by 600 km long, some 900 km east of Port Blair, but had found nothing.
About two-thirds of the passengers on board the flight were Chinese, and Beijing has been showing increasing impatience with the speed and coordination of the Malaysian search effort.
On Saturday, China said it had demanded that Malaysia keep providing more thorough and accurate information, and added that it was sending a technical team to Malaysia to help with the investigation.
China’s Xinhua state news agency said in a commentary that Najib’s disclosure of the new details was “painfully belated”.
“And due to the absence – or at least lack – of timely authoritative information, massive efforts have been squandered, and numerous rumours have been spawned, repeatedly racking the nerves of the awaiting families,” it said.
The fate of flight MH370 has been shrouded in mystery since it disappeared off Malaysia’s east coast less than an hour into its scheduled flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.
But investigators have increasingly discounted the possibility of an accident due to the deliberate way it was diverted and had its communications switched off.
EXPERIENCED CAPTAIN
Investigative sources told Reuters on Friday they believed the plane was following a commonly used navigational route when it was last spotted early on Saturday, northwest of Malaysia.
Their suspicion has hardened that it was flown off-course by the pilot or co-pilot, or someone else with detailed knowledge of how to fly and navigate a large commercial aircraft.
No details have emerged of any passengers or crew with militant links or psychological problems that could explain a motive for sabotaging the flight.
The experienced captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, was a flying enthusiast who spent his off days tinkering with a flight simulator of the plane that he had set up at home, current and former co-workers said. Malaysia Airlines officials did not believe he would have sabotaged the flight.
The 27-year-old co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid, was religious and serious about his career, family and friends said, countering news reports suggesting he was a cockpit Romeo who was reckless on the job.
As the search enters its second week, several governments are using imagery satellites – platforms that take high definition photos – while data from private sector communications satellites is also being examined. China alone says it has deployed 10 satellites.
“The area is enormous. Finding anything rapidly is going to be very difficult,” said Marc Pircher, director of the French space centre in Toulouse. “The area and scale of the task is such that 99 percent of what you are getting are false alarms.”
The corridors given by Najib represent a satellite track, which appears as an arc on a map. The plane did not necessarily follow the corridor, but was at some point along its path at the moment the signal was sent.
Officials at Kazakhstan’s state air navigation service were not available for comment while in Turkmenistan, state aviation officials referred queries to the Foreign Ministry.
Afghanistan‘s ministry of aviation said its controllers were certain the plane had not crossed their airspace. A spokesman for Pakistan’s civilian airspace authority said: “We have not received any requests from Malaysia authorities for help, nor have we any information on the plane’s whereabouts.”
SATELLITES
Earlier, a source familiar with official U.S. assessments of electronic signals sent to geostationary satellites operated by Britain’s Inmarsat said it appeared most likely the plane had turned south over the Indian Ocean, where it would presumably have run out of fuel and crashed into the sea.
If so, just finding the plane – let alone recovering the “black box” data and cockpit voice recorders that hold the key to the mystery – would be a huge challenge.
The Indian Ocean has an average depth of more than 12,000 feet, or two miles (3.5 km). This is deeper than the Atlantic, where it took two years to locate wreckage on the seabed from an Air France plane that vanished in 2009, even though floating debris quickly gave an indication of the area of the crash.
Any debris would have been widely dispersed by Indian Ocean currents in the week since the plane disappeared.
“We have many radar systems operating in the area, but nothing was picked up,” Rear Admiral Sudhir Pillai, Chief of Staff of India’s Andamans and Nicobar Command, told Reuters.
“It is possible that the military radars were switched off as we operate on an as-required basis. So perhaps secondary radars were operating, which may not have the required range to detect a flight at an altitude of 35,000 feet.”
The other interpretation was that the aircraft continued to fly to the northwest and headed over Indian territory.
The source said it was believed unlikely the plane had flown for any length of time over India because it has strong air defence and radar coverage that should have allowed authorities to see the plane and intercept it.
It is extremely rare for a modern passenger aircraft to disappear once it has reached cruising altitude, as MH370 had. When that does happen, the debris from a crash is usually found relatively quickly, close to its last known position.
In this case, there has been no trace of the plane, nor any sign of wreckage.
The maximum range of the Boeing 777-200ER is 7,725 nautical miles or 14,305 km. It is not clear how much fuel the aircraft was carrying, though it would have been enough to reach its scheduled destination, Beijing, a flight of five hours and 50 minutes, plus some reserve.
Malaysian PM’s statement (15th March):
Seven days ago Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared. We realise this is an excruciating time for the families of those on board. No words can describe the pain they must be going through. Our thoughts and our prayers are with them.
I have been appraised of the on-going search operation round the clock. At the beginning of the operation, I ordered the search area to be broadened; I instructed the Malaysian authorities to share all relevant information freely and transparently with the wider investigation team; and I requested that our friends and allies join the operation. As of today, 14 countries, 43 ships and 58 aircraft are involved in the search. I wish to thank all the governments for their help at such a crucial time.
Since day one, the Malaysian authorities have worked hand-in-hand with our international partners – including neighbouring countries, the aviation authorities and a multinational search force – many of whom have been here on the ground since Sunday.
We have shared information in real time with authorities who have the necessary experience to interpret the data. We have been working nonstop to assist the investigation. And we have put our national security second to the search for the missing plane.
It is widely understood that this has been a situation without precedent.
We have conducted search operations over land, in the South China Sea, the Straits of Malacca, the Andaman Sea and the Indian Ocean. At every stage, we acted on the basis of verified information, and we followed every credible lead. Sometimes these leads have led nowhere.
There has been intense speculation. We understand the desperate need for information on behalf of the families and those watching around the world. But we have a responsibility to the investigation and the families to only release information that has been corroborated. And our primary motivation has always been to find the plane.
In the first phase of the search operation, we searched near MH370’s last known position, in the South China Sea. At the same time, it was brought to our attention by the Royal Malaysian Air Force that, based on their primary radar, an aircraft – the identity of which could not be confirmed – made a turn back. The primary radar data showed the aircraft proceeding on a flight path which took it to an area north of the Straits of Malacca.
Given this credible data, which was subsequently corroborated with the relevant international authorities, we expanded the area of search to include the Straits of Malacca and, later, to the Andaman Sea.
Early this morning I was briefed by the investigation team – which includes the FAA, NTSB, the AAIB, the Malaysian authorities and the Acting Minister of Transport – on new information that sheds further light on what happened to MH370.
Based on new satellite information, we can say with a high degree of certainty that the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was disabled just before the aircraft reached the East coast of peninsular Malaysia. Shortly afterwards, near the border between Malaysian and Vietnamese air traffic control, the aircraft’s transponder was switched off.
From this point onwards, the Royal Malaysian Air Force primary radar showed that an aircraft which was believed – but not confirmed – to be MH370 did indeed turn back. It then flew in a westerly direction back over peninsular Malaysia before turning northwest. Up until the point at which it left military primary radar coverage, these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane.
Today, based on raw satellite data that was obtained from the satellite data service provider, we can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data was flight MH370. After much forensic work and deliberation, the FAA, NTSB, AAIB and the Malaysian authorities, working separately on the same data, concur.
According to the new data, the last confirmed communication between the plane and the satellite was at 8:11AM Malaysian time on Saturday 8th March. The investigations team is making further calculations which will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after this last point of contact. This will help us to refine the search.
Due to the type of satellite data, we are unable to confirm the precise location of the plane when it last made contact with the satellite.
However, based on this new data, the aviation authorities of Malaysia and their international counterparts have determined that the plane’s last communication with the satellite was in one of two possible corridors: a northern corridor stretching approximately from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to northern Thailand, or a southern corridor stretching approximately from Indonesia to the southern Indian ocean. The investigation team is working to further refine the information.
In view of this latest development the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board. Despite media reports that the plane was hijacked, I wish to be very clear: we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate from its original flight path.
This new satellite information has a significant impact on the nature and scope of the search operation. We are ending our operations in the South China Sea and reassessing the redeployment of our assets. We are working with the relevant countries to request all information relevant to the search, including radar data.
As the two new corridors involve many countries, the relevant foreign embassies have been invited to a briefing on the new information today by the Malaysian Foreign Ministry and the technical experts. I have also instructed the Foreign Ministry to provide a full briefing to foreign governments which had passengers on the plane. This morning, Malaysia Airlines has been informing the families of the passengers and crew of these new developments.
Clearly, the search for MH370 has entered a new phase. Over the last seven days, we have followed every lead and looked into every possibility. For the families and friends of those involved, we hope this new information brings us one step closer to finding the plane.
ENDS
The Malaysian PM is briefed, so what he says he thinks he knows isn’t what HE knows but what he is led to believe by the briefing team.
There’s only two airstrips in the Northern Indian Ocean (besides DG) – CCK (8000′) and XCH (6900′).
Both of these are well-established Australian territories with top-class communications, and I’m sure we’d have heard by now if a stray B777 rolled up to either.
Reports say that MH370’s last ACARS pings were received by Inmarsat.
If it’s a fact that the pings were received by Inmarsat only, and not by ACARS ground stations, couldn’t you deduce that MH370 was not in range of an ACARS ground station when it sent its last pings?
SITA ACARS ground station coverage:
So, pretty much covered then by SITA ACARS isn’t it? However, where is one place which just so happens to be located in British Indian Ocean Territory far away from SITA ACARS? Diego Garcia!
But then something keeps coming back to haunt me and that is the statement made by the Malaysian Embassy official in Beijing on the day of the disappearance: Flight MH370 landed in Nanning, China. It was stated by an official of the Malaysian Embassy then it was discarded by another official in Malaysia itself and the statement was forgotten rather than people ask why an official would make such a statement so erroneously?
Why I mention this once more is because, when you look at the Inmarsat pings, the satellite is suggesting two possible arcs with the plane’s last “known” / possible position. Which, in itself makes me think “How good is satellite data and the spying capabilities if this is the best result of triangulation it can come up with for a massive Boeing 777 aircraft?
Anyhow, note that Nanning lies very close to the bottom/east point of the top arc while, for the aircraft to be on any other point on that arc as a last known point, it would have crossed any number of radars in multiple countries. The southern arc wouldn’t really make sense.
But then, with all the deliberate confusion which is going into this event (and it certainly is deliberate), nothing makes sense. Just how they like it. 😉
Final destination? How about South Africa? With DG a stop over?
Why?
Oh I don’t know! Just a hunch!
cv
Picture this: MH370 V 9/11
Hello boys and girls!
Say after me: “Must”, “Hit”, “Steel”, “Plane”, “Kite”
Thank you, now run along!
Here is a photo of the very same MH370 aircraft that has gone missing:
Yes, it is, in fact, the very Boeing 777 aircraft which was MH370.
SHANGHAI – The Malaysian Airlines jet which went missing on Saturday over the gulf of Thailand, had previsouly been involved in a minor ground collision in China in 2012.
This emerged from a report (see below) released by the Bureau d’Enquêtes et d’Analyses pour la sécurité de l’aviation civile (BEA), a French authority responsible for investigations into civil aviation incidents.
The missing Boeing 777-200 carries the registration 9M-MRO, which is the same one recorded in the incident report by BEA, on August 9, 2012.
According to the report and witness accounts, while taxiing at Shanghai’s Pudong International Airport, the wing of the Malaysian jet hit the tail of a China Eastern Airlines A340-600 plane, which was stationery at the time.
There were no injuries, but the Malaysian Boeing suffered substantial damage to its wing, with the wingtip shearing off and left hanging from the tail of the Airbus concerned.
The Boeing underwent a full repair and was reportedly then cleared to fly.
So, the wingtip sheared off because it came into contact with A340’s STATIONARY aluminium tail.
Now let’s look at an Airbus 340:
A Boeing 777’s wingtip will be sheared off by an A340’s tail! Aluminium V aluminium and the Boeing 777 had the momentum. But sure, tails, particularly at the lower area where they meet the fuselage, are more robust than a wingtip… granted. But I can and will and always shall assure you that a reinforced steel box section of a substantial, stationary building is far more substantial than an A340 (or A380) tail section.
Now, let’s just prove that assertion allowing for no more argument on this point (other than from a slightly inept politician or troll that is):
Here is an Airbus A380 at a Paris airshow in 2012:
Airbus flew a double-decker Airbus A380 to the 2011 Paris Airshow to put on display and to hopefully attract additional customers. However, while taxiing, the world’s largest airliner’s wing clipped a building ripping off the right winglet and putting the aircraft out of service and unable to fly.
A picture speaks a thousand words doesn’t it? 🙂
Get the picture?
That building is neither a World Trade Tower nor a Pentagon. I have stated over and over that those planes did not slice through those buildings on 9/11
I do not know what anyone (even our esteemed physicists and scientists and structural engineers need before they stop talking shit about aeroplanes having pierced reinforced buildings. Even Architects for 9/11 truth still stick to the story that planes flew into those buildings!
They never did. But no bugger listens unless you can flash a PhD or your some form of celebrity in the form of a politician or renowned Air Force pilot or physicist.
People just like being told something is fact by someone else that they feel they should respect the opinion of because they’re renowned for one reason or another.
One wingtip sheared off by one building. I rest my case!
While, let me just republish the “Superbird” story and the rest once more…
And have a look at this one. Particularly keep a close eye on the two wooden “telephone poles” on the left of the screen as you watch the plane come directly toward you. And take special notice of the furthest pole to the left. It just slices through the wing with no problems. It is not steel and concrete and it has no substantial mass behind it as the buildings (floors) on 9/11 did.
How people refuse to acknowledge all of this is beyond my comprehension.
MH370: The Independent joke of the year!
To the INDEPENDENT NEWSPAPER in the UK:
ARE YOU FRICKING SERIOUS?
THE SCAM IS THAT PHOTO!
Sack your journalist and your Editor! This is either sheer incompetence and they shouldn’t have a job OR this is sheer propaganda on your part for the purposes of promulgating a narrative which has a dangerous and insidious agenda behind it.
OBVIOUS FAKE, COMPOSITE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE TWO “IRANIAN” FAKE PASSPORT HOLDERS
There is now, without a doubt, an agenda going on here regarding this MH370 flight. You’d have to be dead from the neck up not to recognise it.
We have two separate photos taken of the so called “Iranians” who “boarded the plane with fake European ID passports”. The two photos shown above having one small problem however. The legs and feet of each individual are precisely the same kegs and feet! Now I’ve heard of and seen co-joined twins before but I have never seen two entirely facially different twins who are not co-joined but have precisely the same legs and feet. Whoever this man is holding these photos, he’s a first class plonker! A total moron!
However, for a so called Independent journalist to actually write a piece around this photo and he is so incapable to see what is in front of his eyes, he should either be sacked on the spot or shot! This is the height of incompetence or, a deliberate agenda. Take your pick Independent.
Ah but you can’t sack him can you? He’s a Freelance. No bloody wonder! He’ll be lucky to sell another article after this!
Skills: Researcher? Have you ever played “Spot the difference” Mark?
You can sack the Editor who accepted this however!
Malaysia being destabilised by CIA?
The number of issues piling up with regard to this MH370 disappearance is reaching ridiculous proportions. The rumours and stories circulating and apparent incompetence abound. Meanwhile, we are being driven to a point of considering that there is some Iranian involvement in this while some stories refer to an Iranian defector now saying (after years of being in Germany when he could have told his story at any time before now) that Iran was responsible for the Lockerbie attack.
An additional story which surfaced a couple of days ago, was this one about two Australian girls being invited to the cockpit to spend the full flight there between Phuket and KL. I highly doubt this story – not to say it is impossible – but, while you can see photos of the girls in the cockpit, I am unconvinced of the veracity of their story somehow. People seem to be wishing to paint Malaysians as incompetent, sleazy, unprofessional etc. Sure, I’ve lived there, I know how they can be but I also have lived in the UK most of my life (being British that kind of makes sense doesn’t it?) and you want unprofessionalism, incompetence and sleaze? You can find plenty here!
Malaysian Airlines pilots are as highly skilled and highly trained as any other civilian pilot. Further, they are as likely, if not more likely, to stick with the regulations and policy they are to adhere to. In addition, I doubt very much whether the rest of the crew on a flight would keep their mouths closed about blatant disregard of the policy and, quite happily, allow the pilots to do as suggested. The pilots, meanwhile, were willing to put their careers at risk? No, I don’t buy it. While I also don’t buy the idea that the pilots would take a photo of the girls in the cockpit and hand it to them, thereby allowing them to “blackmail” them if they had so wished. How could such a photo(s) transpire? Your guess is as good as mine but it could be that they are real photos (not photoshopped) and that the girls were allowed to see inside the cockpit once landed. Additionally, it doesn’t say much for the girl when she admits to considering the “invite” from the First Officer to be a “little sleazy”. And can you imagine what a cockpit is like if you were to light up a cigarette or a cigar in one? Plus, the smell would linger and the staff who then check the plane and others who clean the plane, would smell it.
I highly doubt these girls’ story for one or two other reasons also. There are now many stories circulating about this entire MH370 episode and there are many (or most of them) which do not add up or, are posited but then forgotten – such as the story about Balotelli of course. It’s becoming a ridiculous circus and, assuming there actually were and are people on that flight (I take nothing for granted anymore) I can only feel for their families who don’t know the first thing about what has or may have happened to their family members while governments and military are playing games – because that is exactly what is going on here – a game. What its purpose is is (and probably always will be at least for some time) unknown and is pure speculation. However, while not wishing to speculate too much, I have a strong feeling that the CIA and the US government, along with their allies, have everything to do with this game.
Now, here is something I picked up on from 2012. I had been aware of CIA activity in Malaysia but there are one or two coincidences: (Please note Anwar Ibrahim’s mentions throughout)
GOVT TOLD TO ACT AGAINST CIA AGENTS HOLED UP HERE
January 31, 2012
(Harakah Daily) – Penang-based Citizens International has urged the Malaysian government to expel those recruited by the US’s Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to carry out espionage activities against its arch enemy Iran, as revealed in a report by Asian Times.
The paper in a report last December claimed that CIA had been recruiting Iranian students in Malaysia to spy on vital targets in Iran.
In a statement to Harakahdaily, the group’s chairman SM Mohamed Idris urged Home minister Hishamuddin Hussein to immediately expel such agents who were based in the US Embassy, multi-national corporations, academic institutions and media organizations.
“CIA’s recruitment of Iranian students for spying in a friendly country and setting up think-tanks and educational institutions here for such purpose amount to serious interference in our internal affairs by the US and a threat to our sovereignty,” said Idris.
The report states that a dedicated team set up by CIA’s National Clandestine Service not only operate from Iran’s neighbours, but also in Malaysia where there is a large number of Iranian students, who became target due to their good command of the Persian language and inter-cultural competence.
Iranian intelligence has meanwhile identified 42 officers of the NCS operating in several countries and collected detailed information on the scope and nature of their activities. Among these were one “patriotic Iranian student” who had been offered scholarship by a quasi-academic institution as a means of entrapment.
Following an investigation by the Islamic republic’s Ministry of Intelligence and Security into the institution, 30 suspected spies had been netted.
The report added that such spies were embedded within numerous official and unofficial American organizations, including US embassies, multinational corporations, academic institutions, think-tanks and media organizations.
Saying Iranian officials would have informed the Malaysian government of the development, Idris (left) asked whether there had been any follow-up action.
“The activities of CIA here are bound to cause severe strain to the good relations we have with Iran. Further, both Malaysia and Iran are members of the Organisation of Islamic Co-operation (OIC}and the United Nations and, therefore, it would be in violation of the OIC Charter and the UN Charter to allow our territory to be used for the illegal US-Israel covert war against Iran,” said Idris, who is also president of well-known consumer pressure group Consumers Association of Penang (CAP).
Idris also urged the Malaysian government to stop security cooperation with the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) under the guise of the ‘war on terror’, saying that “in reality, is a war against Muslims and Islam”.
What we also must bear in mind is that Mahathir Muhammad still, to this day, is a prominent politically figure in Malaysia and he has not only been extremely vocal in attacking George Soros but also Israel, the United States and the UK. Mr Mahathir doesn’t tend to pull many punches, even though he will know Brzezinski’s Grand Chessboard game and is playing in it. Malaysia is a rather wealthy country and is a net exporter of oil for example. Yes it has its issues but who doesn’t. Let’s lose this ideology which so many try to maintain that the west is all good and clean. I think that idea has now been laid to rest (R.I.P) and not so many wear the rose tinted glasses any longer whereas many have donned the “They Live” sunglasses!
The financial crisis threatened to devastate Malaysia. The value of the ringgit plummeted due to currency speculation, foreign investment fled, and the main stock exchange index fell by over 75 per cent. At the urging of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the government cut government spending and raised interest rates, which only served to exacerbate the economic situation. In 1998, Mahathir reversed this policy course in defiance of the IMF and his own deputy, Anwar. He increased government spending and fixed the ringgit to the US dollar. The result confounded his international critics and the IMF. Malaysia recovered from the crisis faster than its Southeast Asian neighbours. In the domestic sphere, it was a political triumph. Amidst the economic events of 1998, Mahathir had dismissed Anwar as Finance Minister and Deputy Prime Minister, and he could now claim to have rescued the economy in spite of Anwar’s policies. Do you think Mahathir had an acute awareness regarding how to play this game?
By the mid-1990s it had become clear that the most serious threat to Mahathir’s power was the leadership ambition of his deputy, Anwar. Anwar began to distance himself from Mahathir, overtly promoting his superior religious credentials and appearing to suggest he favoured loosening the restrictions on civil liberties that had become a hallmark of Mahathir’s premiership. However, Mahathir continued to back Anwar as his successor until their relationship collapsed dramatically during the Asian financial crisis. Their positions gradually diverged, with Mahathir abandoning the tight monetary and fiscal policies urged by the IMF. At the UMNO General Assembly in 1998, a leading Anwar supporter, Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, criticised the government for not doing enough to combat corruption and cronyism. As Mahathir took the reins of Malaysia’s economic policy over the coming months, Anwar was increasingly sidelined. On 2 September, he was dismissed as Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister, and promptly expelled from UMNO. No immediate reasons were given for the dismissal, although the media speculated that it related to lurid allegations of sexual misconduct circulated in a “poison pen letter” at the general assembly. As more allegations surfaced, large public rallies were held in support of Anwar. On 20 September, he was arrested and placed in detention under the Internal Security Act.
Anwar stood trial on four charges of corruption, arising from allegations that Anwar abused his power by ordering police to intimidate persons who had alleged Anwar had sodomised them. Before Anwar’s trial, Mahathir told the press that he was convinced of Anwar’s guilt. He was found guilty in April 1999 and sentenced to six years in prison. In another trial shortly after, Anwar was sentenced to another nine years in prison on a conviction for sodomy. The sodomy conviction was overturned on appeal after Mahathir left office.
While Mahathir had vanquished his rival, it came at a cost to his standing in the international community and domestic politics. US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright defended Anwar as a “highly respectable leader” who was “entitled to due process and a fair trial”. In a speech in Kuala Lumpur, which Mahathir attended, US Vice President Al Gore stated that “we continue to hear calls for democracy”, including “among the brave people of Malaysia”. At the APEC summit in 1999, Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chrétien refused to meet Mahathir, while his foreign minister met with Anwar’s wife, Wan Azizah Wan Ismail. Wan Azizah had formed a liberal opposition party, the National Justice Party (Keadilan) to fight the 1999 election. UMNO lost 18 seats and two state governments as large numbers of Malay voters flocked to PAS and Keadilan, many in protest at the treatment of Anwar.
At UMNO’s general assembly in 2002, Mahathir announced that he would resign as Prime Minister, only for supporters to rush to the stage and convince him tearfully to remain. He subsequently fixed his retirement for October 2003, giving him time to ensure an orderly and uncontroversial transition to his anointed successor, Abdullah Badawi. Having spent over 22 years in office, Mahathir was the world’s longest-serving elected leader when he retired. He remains Malaysia’s longest-serving prime minister.
Here is what Mahathir has had to say about some of the above – Soros, the U.S. etc:
Mahathir has not hesitated to point to America for justification of his own actions. In speaking of arbitrary detention without trial of prisoners of conscience in Malaysia, he said: “Events in the United States have shown that there are instances where certain special powers need to be used in order to protect the public for the general good.”
At the other end of the spectrum, the United States government has previously criticised the Malaysian government for implementing the ISA, most recently in 2001 when President George W. Bush said “The Internal Security Act is a draconian law. No country should any longer have laws that allow for detention without trial.” In 2004, however, Bush reversed his stance and claimed “We cannot simply classify Malaysia’s Internal Security Act as a draconian law.” What year was the Patriot Act introduced Georgie you fricking hypocrite?
In 2004, (The Star, 18 October 2004), Mahathir was quoted as having said “The American people are, by and large, very ignorant and know nothing about the rest of the world…. Yet they are the people who will decide who will be the most powerful man in the world” – this is Mahathir playing the game because he knows full well that the President of the US is nothing more than a puppet.
About Israel and the jews:
Mahathir’s public remarks about Jews date back as early as 1970 when he wrote in his controversial book The Malay Dilemma: “The Jews for example are not merely hook-nosed, but understand money instinctively.”
In 1997, during the financial crisis, he attributed the collapse of the Malaysian ringgit to a conspiracy of Jews against a prosperous Muslim state: “The Jews robbed the Palestinians of everything, but in Malaysia they could not do so, hence they do this, depress the ringgit.” Under strong international criticism, he issued a partial retraction, but not in Malay-language.
“The Jews had always been a problem in European countries. They had to be confined to ghettoes and periodically massacred. But still they remained, they thrived and they held whole Governments to ransom…Even after their massacre by the Nazis of Germany, [Jews] survived to continue to be a source of even greater problems for the world…The Holocaust failed as a final solution.”
Plus a few more.
Mahathir established the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission to focus on victims of abuse in Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories
On 11 May 2012, Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were found guilty of war crimes. “After the guilty verdict reached by five senior judges was delivered, Mahathir Mohamad said: ‘Powerful countries are getting away with murder.'”
Mahathir on Soros:
New Straits Times
07 October 2012
WHEN I was away, Malaysiakini was busy trying to legitimise their receiving money from George Soros because I invited him to join the campaign to make war a crime.
Receiving money from Soros and an invitation to make war a crime are two different things. In no way can one justify the other.
I only wrote to Soros after he admitted that I was not wrong in my criticisms of currency trading. Some people may remember that he said I was a menace to my country. By saying that the currency control Malaysia imposed to counter the effects of currency trading was the right thing to do, he was clearly admitting that I was right and was, therefore, not a menace to my country. Obviously, I would not have anything to do with him if he had continued to regard me as a menace to my country.
My letter inviting him to join the campaign to make war a crime was prompted by his financing of the campaign to prevent president George W. Bush from winning a second term. Bush is a warmonger and is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and 6,000 American soldiers in the war against Iraq.
I thought Soros’ opposition to Bush was because he did not like war. But he replied to my invitation to work towards making war a crime by explaining that people had been fighting wars for 7,000 years and, therefore, war is a means of settling conflicts. Malaysiakini is quite right in surmising that his answer was in the negative. I was not surprised. Obviously, he was not against killing people in war. Nor I presume did he care for the massive destruction and sufferings caused by war.
I did meet him when he came here, but we agreed to disagree. He still maintained that currency trading is right and proper. We did not bury any hatchet. I was being civil as I am a Malaysian — and nothing more. So digging up hatchets does not arise.
According to Richard Miniter writing in Forbes, Soros is conducting his own foreign policy which may or may not be identical with US foreign policy. Soros believes he can use his money to set up governments which are pro-Soros or his ideals. Impoverishing countries and peoples matters little to him. Famously, he was quoted as saying in reply to his role in the 1997 East Asian currency crash, “As a market participant, I don’t need to be concerned with the consequences of my actions”.
Miniter quoted the following from Britain’s New Statesman: “In 1984 (Soros) founded his first Open Society Institute in Hungary and pumped millions of dollars into opposition movements and independent media. Ostensibly aimed at building up a ‘civil society’, these initiatives were designed to weaken the existing political structures and pave way for eastern Europe’s eventual colonisation by global capital.”
Some may remember Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s fondness for “civil society” when he was in the government. He still talks about civil society now. The similarity of ideas between the two, Soros and Anwar, is significant.
Miniter went on to describe events in Georgia, where Alexander Lomaia, who went from running Soros’ Open Society Georgia Foundation to become minister of education and science and later secretary of Georgia’s Security Council.
Georgia’s opposition Labour Party leader, Shalva Natelashvili, contends that, “Effectively, George Soros is the president of Georgia, whereas (President) Saakashvili and (Prime Minister) Zurab Zhvania are his governors. Soros’ foundation nominated nine ministers of the Georgian government, and all of them were appointed”. And Soros claims to be promoting democracy.
His supporters here also claim to be fighting for democracy while being led by an unelected leader who in turn appointed members of his family and cronies to various leadership posts.
Miniter quoted Ercis Kurtulus, head of Turkey’s Social Transparency Movement Association as saying, “Soros carried out his will in Ukraine and Georgia by using these NGOs…”
So why is Soros financing Malaysiakini, a Malaysian non-governmental organisation. Obviously, it is in order to achieve regime change, to put his nominees as prime minister and ministers in the Malaysian government. What will such a government do if not to carry out Soros’ wishes.
When inviting him to join the campaign to make war a crime, I was not talking about Malaysian politics. Certainly, I did not ask for nor did he give to the Perdana Global Peace Foundation any money. This campaign to make war a crime is for the good of all humanity — not just of Malaysia.
But he was quite unequivocally against making war a crime.
My view of Soros is that he is still a rogue currency trader and he compounds this evil by using the money to put his kind of people to rule the countries targeted by him. And Malaysia obviously is one of his targets.
Equally obvious, he regards Malaysiakini as the NGO to manipulate in order to achieve his objective.
There are of course other foreign NGOs and governments manipulating Malaysia’s opposition for their interest.
A vote for the opposition, is a vote for Soros, the rogue currency trader.
It certainly will not be for Malaysia and its interests. If there are Malaysians who wish to be re-colonised it is their choice. But I believe Malaysians would not want to be stooges of foreigners.
Now, here is what I find majorly coincidental with the missing MH370. Anwar Ibrahim – a major asset/change agent to the west within Malaysian politics and someone who UMNO and Mahathir distrust enormously – was sentenced to 5 years imprisonment just a day or so before MH370 disappears off the radar. Ibrahim is obviously gay (illegal in Malaysia and, as my own government tells me – they cannot interfere in the laws of a sovereign nation! haha. Funny if not for the fact it is sheer hypocrisy and only is policy when it suits them). Now what do we know about our own gays in politics? Also, how is it that homosexuals always seem to be of a zionist bent? (no pun intended).
Malaysia wishes to stay Malay. Good on them. They wish to remain sovereign. Good on them. I just wish, in doing so, the corruption at the top would stop and they would share the country’s wealth with their own but that may be difficult when it is part Malay, part chinese. We have to get over these divisions somehow people!
What would the west’s interests be in Malaysia? Well, before even attempting an answer, it is quite obvious there are interests to essentially overthrow the regime. Now, what if, by falsely connecting Malaysia to a “hive of Iranian terrorist activity” and creating the idea that the country is incompetent in handling safety, you can destroy its economy and its people’s trust in their government? You then fund those within its political arena who are good for the west’s interests AND you wish to see, step by step, a Singapore being capital of Malaysia? You have an eastern “flank” in eastern europe facing Russia and Eurasia/China while you also begin (along with the TPP – Trans Pacific Partnership) to build up a south east Asian flank against China?
This is what I think:
The US and CIA have been targeting Malaysia for some time and they want regime change. Malaysia won’t play ball. Mahathir and friends are no longer supporting the War on Terror and would jail George Bush, George Soros, Tony Blair and a whole bunch of zionist agitators if they could lay their hands on them. Malaysia also won’t play ball with the TPP. Malaysia IS muslim but they’re not aligned with Saudi’s version (the Zionist Muslims).
Anwar Ibrahim was important to the west and just a day or so before MH370, Anwar is found guilty (his appeal overturned) of sodomy and will be sentenced to 5 years in jail. He then cannot run for office.
THAT was a last straw and the west (CIA/U.S./Mossad) are teaching Malaysia a lesson.
Was the plane brought down? I think there are sufficient reasons to question that. I think there are sufficient conflicting stories to consider the possibility that MH370 landed somewhere it was told to or guided to.
This is an attack (or just the first step of a multi-stepped attack) on Malaysia and an attempt to destabilise its government.
And I wish Malaysia all best wishes in dealing with this attack. I, personally, do not support any action by my government or any western government or agitator against Malaysia. Malaysia is a country I had the pleasure of living in for a short time and even though one of their motorcycled cops attempted to coerce money out of me (which he didn’t achieve) I still appreciate the people who live there. We’re different but we’re the same!
“All westerners look the same to me” says MH370 DCA Chief
Malaysian DCA chief, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, having yesterday advised reporters that the two passengers using faked passports on MH370 looked like Balotelli, the Italian footballer, has now been asked how the photo of one of those passengers, now released, is of an arab/Iranian looking man?
Mr Abdul Rahman has, as yet, given no official reply but sources close to him have alleged that he stated, in private “All these bloody westerners look the same to me!”
“We’ve looked at the footage of the video and the photographs… it is confirmed now that they are not asian looking males.”
When asked by a reporter “If they are not asian looking males then what are they looking like?”, his response – through some hilarity coming from the audience for some reason – was “Do you know of a footballer by the name of Bartolli?… Balotelli? He’s an Italian. You know how he looks like?… I don’t want to dwell about it but they are not asian looking.”
So here is Balotelli:
And here is the released photo of one of the fake passport passengers just issued today:
Now here’s the question: Will ANYONE now challenge either Mr Abdul Rahman or the other investigators and ask how they can possibly come up with something so inexplicably insane as they did yesterday. They had the photos, they looked like Balotelli – they then release one of the photos and it looks like a clean cut middle eastern student.
WTF?
Has Balotelli been taking tips from Michael Jackson?
Update from BBC Asia:
The Balotelli twins!
And not a word in the article referring to Balotelli or the statements made yesterday as to what these pair looked like.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26525281
This really is the Twilight Zone folks. You truly are living in it!
MH370: The obligatory Iranian appears!
Well, here’s the next plot twist written by the Coronation Street scriptwriters:
The man who booked the “Bartolli twins” flight tickets (and a third party booking service is not unusual at all as the article says – I used them myself but never blew up an aeroplane) was a certain “Kazem Ali”, an IRANIAN!!!! From Tehran, in Iran, that bad place, that place where everyone looks like a terrorist but similar in looks to Saudis who actually do most of the terrorism, as a “wahabbi cousin” to the jews you understand, but Saudi doesn’t have nukes and Iran does according to Benjamin Netanyahu who has nukes himself but has never declared them at customs.
http://www.heavy.com/news/2014/03/malaysia-airlines-stolen-passports/
“Have you anything to declare Mr Netanyahu?”
“Who me? Oy Veh! No!!”
“Is that plutonium I see under your coat Mr Netanyahu?”
“You’re anti semitic aren’t you? You’re suggesting I’ve got nuclear warheads when I don’t! I don’t care what everyone knows!”
“I was just asking Mr Netanyahu. I know jews don’t ever lie. A jew couldn’t be a terrorist after all. The King David hotel was a bunch of arabs after all pretending to be Moshe, Aaron and Menachem Begin! And it was a long time ago. And I suppose being a jew you’ve got better things to spend your shekels on! Like buying the Labour and Conservative parties, ignoring the Republicans and democrats for the moment.”
However, you know the first thing I thought of when I saw them decide to use the name “Kazem Ali”?
ALAKAZAM! 🙂
Because that is one hell of a conjuring trick to make an aeroplane vanish!
Echoes of Libya being responsible for Lockerbie isn’t it?
Bets please! The FBI find a link between Kazem the magician and an Iranian state plot to blow up an airliner!
Anyone notice the name of the travel agent that was used? Six stars Travel!
Alakazam! “Bombs are us!”
10th March 2014: And there you have it. The next stage of the script. It was Iran who did the Lockerbie bombing not Libya and it just so happens this comes out at the very same time as MH370. These people are transparent!
But while you read and watch the link, remember: These are people who are admitting that lies were told about Libya and Megrahi just to get at Libya. They are now stating those were lies and it was really Iran and this time “we’re telling the truth”. How STUPID do you want them to take you for? “We lied then but we’re not lying now”. While the defected Iranian defected for what? And what do you think he gets in return for his “facts”? Such people are paid off handsomely didn’t you know? If you didn’t, look it up. Oh and by the way – he’s in Germany. Germany, the place now, where the DVD (German Intelligence) and the zionists have a strong grip.
And Alakazam! The fake passports holders on MH370 are now said to be Iranians! How about that? The story drip fed to you as they make it all up. Meanwhile, as an aside, notice it talks about sanctions on Iran causing large unemployment. And? We don’t need another country to put sanctions on us for us to have high levels of unemployment, we do that ourselves! Our own government places sanctions on us with help from the IMF and the EU! It’s all hilarious (but serious) nonsense!
This isn’t a case of “You couldn’t make this stuff up!”, it’s a case of “We are making this stuff up!”
And now, here is one of the fake passport holders:
We’ll call him Luigi Muhammad Ali for now shall we? I hope he did a good Italian accent! I wonder if he ordered the pasta dish from the inflight meal service?
While, bizarrely, the story has completed changed again from what the Malaysian Minister of Transport said yesterday about the two men: He said they looked like Balotelli, the footballer! So now, they’ve gone from deep deep mocha to coffee coloured!
How could they get it so wrong yesterday. After all they were looking at photos and were asserting they knew, for sure. Come on world! Don’t let these bastards take this piss out of you. I’m losing all respect for my own race (the human race that is).
Earthling 
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