MH370 found in Antarctica!
Plane, passengers and crew of Malaysian Airlines Flight, MH370, were found today, nearby the Amery ice shelf of Antarctica. Crew of Her Majesty’s Royal Navy ship, HMS Gotcha, first picked up a radar ping from the aircraft when Captain Zahari switched the transponder back on after landing.
In a debriefing, it would appear that the entire passengers and crew had been talked around to the idea of remaining in Antarctica and starting a new colony while awaiting the impact of global warming across the rest of the planet (except Diego Garcia) since Captain Zahari had distributed copies of the Club of Rome’s “The First Global Revolution” and shown Al Gore’s “An inconvenient truth” during the moon leg of the journey. Captain Zahari decided to take the detour to the moon due to one passenger complaining he didn’t have any cheese for his crackers.
A source, who wishes to remain anonymous, provided what he suggests is a confirmed and final flightpath for MH370 which is provided below.
Please note: This post is not intended to offend anyone related to the passengers and crew of flight MH370. It is, however, intended to offend the entire officaldom and media and “Sources” and “Experts” who have provided any form of “information” during the attempt, thus far, to locate the aircraft. Half of you (or more) should be shot – by the families if not by the rest of us.
MH370: Plausible deniability?
Or is it just a case of saying “WE wouldn’t do that! We’re the good guys! It’s just nasty, swarthy, terrorists from countries ending in ‘stan which do that sort of thing. So I think we can rule that one out!”?
Now, with all the official work carried out by Malaysia, its military, intelligence, American intelligence, Inmarsat, Boeing, how many countries now? And perhaps even Scooby Doo’s been involved – by the way, did you ever notice that at the end of Scooby Doo, when they lifted the mask off the culprit, it always seemed to be the last person they’d ever thought of? Like an “Insider” and a “False flag” attempt? Ever notice that? (Oh I’m just spinning my marbles here, don’t worry) – no mention whatsoever has been made of the FACT that Boeing has patented technology for the automatic take over of the plane by an outside radio source (potentially AWACS again although it may not even be necessary) controlled by the CIA.
Just rule this one out Carney!
No, we are not talking theory here one bit. We are talking solid fact. And, as yet, it has never been mentioned by the media or the authorities in any shape or form.
Airline fleets are continuously being re-fitted and updated throughout their lifetimes. Further, the ground collision which MH370 had in 2010, which tore off a section of its wing, necessitated access to the aircraft, by Boeing, for repairs. Either way, there is no good reason to not have, as a line of enquiry, whether this particular aircraft had the upgrade.
If you are a family member of one of the missing passengers and you want answers, then you DEMAND you get a full, evidenced answer to this question!
MH370: I couldn’t agree with you more!
But you would never agree to even consider my reasoning for agreeing with you would you?
As the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 continued, aviation experts were last night offering several different theories.
Steven Frischling, a US aviation security expert, said he thought the plane had been forceably taken. “Four hours after the aircraft went missing my primary source told me unequivocally that this was a pilot-involved incident,” he said.
He said everything pointed to the idea that the Boeing 777 had not crashed, as there was “no evidence” to support it.
“One of the positions on the plane that would be filled with a large metal cargo container is unaccounted for on the manifest,” he said. “So there is unexplained cargo. I don’t know who or what was on that plane that they wanted, but they wanted the aircraft, I think it’s on the ground, being hidden or dismantled.”
While I agree with this statement too:
“If it had crossed any coastline, even without its communications, it would have been picked up on radar….”
And this:
“It would need a 5,000ft to 6,000ft-long decent runway. If it tried to land on some distant aerodrome or literally a field it would crash and we would most likely know about it.”
And if you wish it spelled out “in code” for you, you couldn’t get much better than the remarks of Robert Mark:
Robert Mark, a commercial pilot and editor of Aviation International News Safety magazine, said:“As time goes on things that seemed outlandish are becoming more plausible. The latest is the theory that MH370 shadowed a Singapore Airlines flight. The Israelis have done this before, shadowing a 747 with a fighter jet so that from the ground radar it looks like one aircraft.
“We are going to find out ultimately that the people who took this aircraft were as good at planning as the people behind 9/11.”
No, he did not say “as good at planning as Osama Bin laden and/or Al Qaeda” he said “the people behind 9/11”.
You just need to ask yourself who was behind 9/11?
Well the Israelis shadowed a jumbo with a fighter jet. Funny how he mentions the Israelis isn’t it? While I have to quickly point out that shadowing a passenger aircraft with a fighter jet is a whole different thing than one passenger jet trying to shadow another.. Size and proximity comes into it.
Yes, as time goes on the more outlandish things become more plausible. Yes indeed. Don’t they Jay, you little creep?
MH370: “The games we play with people’s lives”
First of all, not having all the facts (and probably no-one ever will), I am not having a go at the Malaysian authorities with this one. That may be due in the future but, contrary to what some people think of their government in Malaysia at the moment, I am giving them a little benefit of the doubt because I am still very much of the opinion that the US is behind this and that Diego Garcia figures in this story. That would, in my view, necessitate the Malaysian officials to be VERY careful about what they say without having full proof and some form of protection for themselves for even hinting at Diego Garcia.
Let me explain…
What we now have is the Malaysian officials stating that they have new radar evidence from a third party country. We have to assume that this is not Thailand since they have already stated they caught sight of the plane with their radar, they say, “flying toward Malacca”. So, I’d suggest we can rule out Thailand as being the country with the new info and being unwilling to divulge which country they are. Logical? I think so.
However, here’s the thing: What do we keep hearing from “experts” and “sources”? That it could be possible for the plane to have flown over certain countries on those northern or southern arcs IF it is the case that these countries radar systems are not all they should be. To admit the limitations, therefore, would put their respective national security at risk. Ok, plausible theory you say and yes, it is plausible. HOWEVER, what we have now is a statement saying that a country DOES have radar evidence. Now wouldn’t you think that country would wish to promote that? That their radar DID have the ability to pick up the plane? So what excuse would these “experts” and “sources” make now for a country who could prove their defence radar system is up to the task? It doesn’t have to give away detail of why. It has already done this, one would guess, to the malaysian authorities. So what do you think could possibly be the reason for not divulging to the public which country saw the plane?
Think about it: If it were a country on the northern arc than that keeps the story going that it was heading in the direction the narrative wishes us to believe it did. Conversely, if it were the southern arc, well all there is is Indonesia then nothing unless western australia picked it up. But what would be the issue for either of these countries stating they picked it up on radar? Absolutely none.
So then, once more, here is the third possibility which, it just so happens, works very nicely into a country not being willing to speak up: It is a country which is on NEITHER of the arcs! Now, where would that lead?
Again, only in one direction. Toward the Maldives/Seychelles and Diego Garcia.
So let’s assume that the Malaysian Transportation Minister is stating that those witnesses in Maldives were talking BS. Does he give good reason for this considering he isn’t in the Maldives and they are? If he doesn’t know where the plane is or went, how can anyone possibly say these people did not see what they say they did? It’s a logical fallacy right now until he explains why they couldn’t have seen it. It’s just like Jay Carney – the Whitehouse Press Secretary – saying “I’ll rule that one out”. There is no justification for it.
And, of course, we have the pilot’s home simulator with Maldives and Diego Garcia landing stips along with Seychelles. And where, exactly, is Dhaalu Atoll?
And there, once again, staring up from the bottom of the image, is the British Indian Ocean Territories including Diego Garcia, waving at us.
However, it could, I admit, just as well be that, if the plane did cross Dhaalu Atoll, that it WAS on its way to Somalia – but, somehow, I doubt it. I doubt it because I don’t think for one moment that Diego Garcia would not have picked up on it. They will have a database filled with the flight plans of all civilian aircraft crossing that part of the ocean for hundreds of miles radius. If there is one that does not conform to the info they have, it’ll be sorry!
However, once again, I have no verification of this report from Maldives. But then neither do you!
So, again, let’s think why one of the countries on the northern arc would not wish to divulge to the public (or to other countries authorities other than Malaysia) that they had picked up the plane on their radar. Could it be because they had a track on where it was heading? So let’s say Northern India picked it up heading toward Pakistan. So? You tell me (because I don’t know) what the issue there would be? Would Pakistan be affronted and decide to drop a nuke on India because they said they saw the plane heading in their direction? Or could it be that in spotting it, India are embarrassed that they did nothing about it to intercept? A rather poor excuse for hiding the fact from the public when they have possibly admitted this to the Malaysian authorities. And why would the latter wish to keep this classified for now? Wouldn’t it be in Malaysia’s interest to publicly state what they know and take some of the heat off themselves?
Sorry if I’ve missed something but none of this stacks up for me.
What if Sri Lanka has spotted the plane flying south/south west though? After all of this talk about being certain it was either the northern arc or the southern arc?
What if they were to now have to come clean that it was seen over the general territory of the Maldives/South of Sri Lanka?
Well, people like me and many others would be vindicated wouldn’t we? And that just will not do! And neither would the embarrassment of the “authorities” who had, for 12 days, fed you shit. 😉
While here’s another thing:
“ACARS is a communication system, not a Global Positioning System (GPS); it does not give positions but only transfer messages.”
How strange (but very true and you can find confirmation of this online from here.
PLUS, here is another interesting little snippet if you give it some thought:
“VHF is the most commonly used and least expensive. Transmission is line-of-sight so VHF is not available over the oceans or other vast expanses of uninhabited surface, such as the Amazon Basin.”
Do you see the subtle little possibility which stares you in the face here? No?
Well what if the reason for the non communication with ACARS SITA by VHF to ground SITA sites had nothing to do with the communications actually having been turned off BUT was actually due to the fact that the plane was flying over a broad expanse of ocean? Hmmm… interesting thought eh?
MH370: “I’ll rule that one out”
Oh you will will you? Just dismiss it? Best way to handle such a question Carney isn’t it?
US officials in Kuala Lumpur are working “in close cooperation with the Malaysian government,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said at his daily briefing, calling the search “a difficult and unusual situation”:
They are in a truly agonizing situation. We remain fully committed to assisting the Malaysians and working with our other international partners … I can assure you we are in a close, collaborative relationship.
Asked about the notion that the plane could have landed at Diego Garcia, the US military base in the central Indian Ocean, Carney was dismissive:
“I’ll rule that one out.”
When no-one is allowed to go anywhere near that island and when it is restricted to Armed Forces such that even the government who owns the island – the British Government – have restrictions placed on them from visiting; Plus, because the island has no “settled population” it does not come under the International Criminal Court’s jurisdiction, it CAN be “dismissed” with impunity by people like you – lackeys for people like Obama and the British establishment. Such questions are simply emptied into the “Black hole” called “Diego Garcia”.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/18/mh370-missing-plane-search-live
Ever heard of the guy who was previously in your position Jay? His name was Robert Gibbs. Just have a quick listen mate then you tell the world why it should listen to you!
You are sociopathic liars Carney. It’s more than your job’s worth (and that is all you are – a “jobsworth”) to even acknowledge the question of Diego Garcia. How many CIA operations have been declassified decades after the event mate? How many fake wars through false flags have your Presidents got us involved with? How many assassinations for political expediency has your government and friendly governments, carried out? The list is never ending Carney. And you’re nothing but a mouth with an arm stuck up your anus!
But the American public are too damned scared of acknowledging it because of what it would lead to! And the rest of the world plays ball with you because you’re the big bad wolf (in sheep’s clothing). Along with your “jewish” buddies!
MH370: Pilot had Diego Garcia included on his simulator
12.46 Intriguing new line from The Malay Mail Online.
Police scouring Capt Shah’s flight simulator – which he installed in his home – have found five Indian Ocean practice runways.
One is in the Maldives.
One is on Diego Garcia.
The other three are in India and Sri Lanka.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10704769/Malaysian-Airlines-MH370-live.html
So, not such a crazy idea after all. We have the Anwar/Globalist issue. Anwar now coming out to admit he’s related to the pilot. We know why the west wants to destabilise Malaysia and we know the CIA are active in Malaysia and have been for some time. We also know the Council on Foreign Relations is happy with Anwar and the west definitely want him as their man in Malaysia.
We know it is highly unlikely that this plane could have travelled across multiple territories such as the northern arc suggests without being spotted. The southern arc leads to nowhere. So what’s left?
Why fly over Maldives instead of direct to Diego Garcia? Well it makes sense to me. You see, by doing so (if, in fact it did) it would give the possibility of being spotted by the Maldives. It would then suggest that the plane was heading to Africa. The straight line between Maldives and Africa suggests the flight is heading toward…..
SOMALIA!
And we all know who live in Somalia don’t we? It’s full of pirates and Al Qaeda! 🙂 So we’re told by our wonderful media programming on behalf of our governments.
So then what do we expect next? Well, what I expect is for Israel to start screaming! “Oy vey! Oy Vey! They have a plane now in Somalia loaded up with nuclear bombs. The Iranians are in on it! We need to destroy Iran before they use it. They’re going to wipe out Jerusalem and the Temple Mount! Oy vey! Oy vey! The International community must now attack Iran and Somalia and destroy half the middle east so we, god’s people, can continue to live on this planet, in peace and suck the life out of every last living human creature with our monetary system!”
Ok perhaps I’ve slightly overdone what the Israeli’s might say and demand but have I? They’re fricking “religious” (yet atheist?!) nutters! And they’re desperate for a war!
MH370: KL to Mauritius Flying time
Why are the officials trying to keep this search in the two arcs (quite massive arcs by the way, suggesting that the satellite really doesn’t have a clue)? A wild goose chase? You see, the likelihood of the plane taking the northern arc and not being spotted is damned unlikely no matter what all the “Talking Heads” say.
Further, the plane would not turn back on itself heading in a south westernly direction right back over Malaysia and Malacca if it just intended to go back up toward that arc. It really doesn’t make much sense if you think about it. Further, yes they can say but then it took another sharp turn pointing, once more, in a more northernly direction. Yes it did but it was flying between waystations for a purpose and then it just disappeared off military radar but it had come way south to then head north again?? Plus, heading northwest from that point (assuming from then on pretty straight) would take it over Indian airspace and there are enough people saying it is highly doubtful it would get through and I, for one, agree with them.
So, my theory (and that is all it is but it’s based a little more on logical reasoning from my perspective) is that it turned south once more, once it evaded radar (AWACS helped or not) and it flew in the direction of Mauritius.
We’re told it was active (flying or otherwise) for another 7 hours after it was lost from radar. Well, here’s the flying time to Mauritius:
I’m just saying it didn’t go to Mauritius – it went to Diego Garcia and was led there.
Here’s the “arc” of the covenant they keep showing us:
This is based on Inmarsat “pings” to the below cabin ACARS so we are told. Now, Inmarsat is tied to military and government contracts. Yes it provides commercial services but, if the British government says “jump” in the name of “national security”, Inmarsat will do just that.
Here’s what David Coiley had to say:
David Coiley, a vice president of Inmarsat, a British satellite telecommunications provider, said the missing plane had been equipped with an Inmarsat signaling system that sends out a “keep-alive message” to establish that the plane’s communications system is still switched on.
The plane sent out a series of such messages after civilian radar lost contact, he said. Those messages later stopped, but he declined to specify precisely when or how many messages had been received. Mr. Coiley said Inmarsat was sharing the information with the airline and investigators.
“It does allow us to determine where the airplane is relative to the satellite,” he said of the signal, which he likened to the “noises you might hear when a cellphone sits next to a radio or a television speaker.” He said: “It does allow us to narrow down the position of the aircraft” — at the moment when the signal was sent.
Such equipment automatically checks in to satellites, much as a mobile phone would check in to a network after passing through a mountain tunnel, he said. Because the pings go over a measurable distance at a specific angle to one of the company’s satellites, the information can be used to help calculate the trajectory of an aircraft and narrow its approximate location — though not necessarily its resting point.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370.html?_r=0
So let’s just consider what he’s saying here:
In the same article, it states those pings went on for hours after the plane disappeared from all radar. Some reports have said 7 hours. However, why would Mr Coiley decline to say how many messages had been received and yet, we are provided the “arcs” by the officials? These arcs are the same as saying for how long and how many pings were received but Mr Coiley doesn’t wish to provide that detail. Why? What is so “classified” about such information considering what is at stake and that people wish to know? What could, if anything, such detail give away (either to “bad men” or just the public and, perhaps, other pilots or aircraft engineering people who could then work something out from them?).
He then goes on to say it allows us to determine where the plane is relative to the satellite….narrow down the position. Well does it? Two arcs, thousands of miles long is all we are given and even they are suggested as being the last point or outer edge of where the plane could have flown to. Why just give the arc for the final ping while not being willing to say how many pings? Also, where was the plane, approximately, at the points earlier pings were sent? While, if, as said below, the aircraft could have been hijacked using a mobile phone and a USB stick, then to suggest AWACS taking over is a walk in the park. You see, the “anti terror” expert, Aunty Sally (I once had an Aunty Sally) will promote such ideas because that suits the narrative. Suggesting a British/American/Globalist plot just doesn’t fit does it? And never will of course. But a terrorist may be smart (although I don’t believe they are and very few such entities actually exist. Al Qaeda being CIA for example) but not this smart.
Seems to be an element of planning? Sure honey, you can be sure of that! And sophisticated systems engineering understanding? I have no doubt. You’re actually making it even clearer that this was a sophisticated operation and that’s what was said on 9/11 – that it was believed it took governments to be involved – the Israelis said that to have a pretext to target the governments they wished to target of course, but noone ever wishes to consider that THEY could be that government, or UK or America. Nope! You consider that and you’re crazy. Then I’m batshit nuts!
But back to the arcs and the position of the satellite (Inmarsat 3F 64.5deg East)
Those arcs have been plotted, in fact, by a mix of what we’re told is the last ping on inmarsat and the anticipated running out of fuel. It would seem, from what I’ve read elsewhere, is that all Inmarsat is capable of doing is taking a measurement of the angle and amplitude of the signal it receives and, knowing the output power of the signal from the ACARS equipment in the plane, it works out a relative distance form triangulation. This means that the satellite is, to a great degree, guessing the position of the aircraft AND, furthermore, as you can see from the arcs presented, it cannot locate the actual terrestrial co-ordinates in any way. That means that the reality is that those arcs can be considered to be a complete circle and the plane could have ended up anywhere on that circle. The satellite uses spot beams and a global beam. In this case, it uses it’s global beam which is just one big, massive circle. Now why are they trying to suggested only those two arcs and not a complete circle? Well, I’d guess they want the search area to be as large as possible to keep people searching and searching while they do not wish us to even consider that the plane went south west toward Mauritius, Africa and flying anywhere near Diego Garcia. Because for us to consider that, they know people would be saying “Wait a minute, there is no way that plane would not be spotted by Diego Garcia!” This may just lead people to consider that, in fact, Diego Garcia may have been the destination and was meant to be it’s destination.
If it flew for hours (possibly up to 7.5 hours) then Diego Garcia is no problem to reach.
MH370: Mainstream media afraid to tread on dangerous territory?
Malaysia being destabilised by the CIA? https://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/malaysia-being-destabilised-by-cia/
Blog written 3 or 4 days ago…. now this….
You’re slow Western mainstream. Or is it just you don’t wish to go where no man has gone before?
Or are you trying to come up with your “spin” and how you’re going to cover this?
By all means MSM, keep ignoring it or trying to spin it but it won’t go away. 😉
Tell me MSM? How is it that us “crazy conspiracy theorists” always seem to be two steps ahead of you?
MH370: You just CANNOT be serious!
Do you remember the story of the CNN crew that found Osama Bin Laden and interviewed him when the US government were wanting to get their hands on him at the same time prior to 9/11?
It was, then kind of coincidental that the man then ended up allegedly doing what he did isn’t it?
And it just so happened to be CNN who managed to interview what turned out to be the world’s most wanted man.
Well, believe it or not, and I don’t in the sense that this is one HELL of a coincidence, CNN have struck again!
John McEnroe would be proud!
There are some deeply sinister people in this world and they’re having a laugh at our expense.
MH370: The authorities are not telling us something!
It has just occurred to me that the authorities have ignored (or seem to have ignored) one very important aspect of this series of events surrounding MH370.
While we have been told that some chinese relatives have made cellular phone calls to some of the passengers’ mobiles, that is then all that has been said on the subject. The calls connected and yet, unless I am mistaken, noone has followed up on this very major issue.
The fact that mobile calls were made (and connected) means that the location of that received call can be determined to within the footprint of a cellular base station which, at most, is a few Km in diameter.
What are we not being told here? There are no ifs, buts or maybes about this. This is a fact. The very base station in any particular country where the call was received (and they are ALL tracked due to the need to route a call through the various networks and switches) is known. So then why has the “line” gone quiet regarding this?
The chinese people who have made those calls and connected have provided very accurate data as to where their family members were (assuming they had their mobile with them, which, wouldn’t it be just the norm if the authorities said they didn’t for some reason or another?).
NEW YORK – Telecommunications experts say the odds that passengers’ cellphone data can help locate the missing Malaysian jetliner are next to zero.
This is an article on Fox News Network regarding the possibility of location using the cellphones.
Locating the mobile phones of the 239 travelers on the Boeing 777 that vanished Saturday isn’t as simple as activating a “Find My iPhone” app, given the speed the plane was traveling, its altitude and the fact it was probably flying over water. Many people assume smartphones to be all-powerful tracking devices. Often police, rescue units and others can use a person’s phone to pinpoint the user’s precise location. Even so, there are large portions of the planet that don’t have the transmission towers that are necessary for mobile communications. In the case of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, smartphones are unlikely to lead investigators to the plane.
[This very sentence, above, tells us (and anyone who has worked in wireless telecommunications can verify it) that UNLESS the phone is within the footprint of a Base Station, you would not even get a connection. This, therefore, proves (if the families calls were connected to the phones of the passenger family members) that the passengers were within the footprint of a base station AND were not travelling at an altitude of 35,000ft or anywhere near it. Cellular base station antennas as highly directional – there are omni directional antennas but then, being omni, their power is not as focused and there is no way that a phone 35000ft in the air (even 5 or 10000ft) would make a connection – and, being highly directional, they focus their energy DOWN (they are tilted downwards toward the ground since not too many birds have mobiles – not yet anyhow). The signal strength at altitude, then falls off exponentially very quickly.]
Note: Antenna on mast pointing down:
and this is the antenna pattern (basically the power lobes and sidelobes of the antenna. You can see that the power drops off with distance and it is focused into a narrow beam. The last thing a mobile network wants is the loss of masses of power into the sky!
Here’s what you need to know about mobile connections and how they’re used to determine location:
Q: Can telecommunications providers remotely locate a phone?
A: Yes, if the phone is turned on and is connected to either a cellular or Wi-Fi network, says Ritch Blasi, senior vice president for mobile and wireless at the consulting firm Comunicano. Apps like “Find My iPhone” only function properly when a phone is able to receive a location signal from a GPS satellite and relay that signal via cell connection or Wi-Fi to those who are searching for it. [But this is considering apps using GPS etc. It is ignoring the basic, fundamental routing of a call through the network switches and base stations. This comment is talking about consumer-style location based services. A base station coverage cell, as identified by its Cell Global Identity (CGI) number, maps to the radio coverage of a BTS. Similarly an LA as identified by its Location Area Identity (LAI) number , is a cluster of cells served by a single MSC/VLR. A group of LA under the control of the same MSC/VLR defines the MSC/VLR area. A Public Land Mobile Network (PLMN) is the area served by one network operator.]
Q: Does this change when you’re on a plane?
A: Yes, considerably. For one thing, most airlines require passengers to turn their phones off or at least put them in airplane mode before takeoff. [Yes because they interfere but also, at altitude, they are useless anyhow! That is why NO calls were made by anyone using a cellphone on 9/11. A Skyphone maybe but NOT a cellphone. That is why the woman – I forget their names now – who was meant to have called and spoken to her Dept of Justic husband, in fact didn’t. Even the FBI confirmed this, which means her husband is a liar and that is one monumental lie he told because it was her call that started the whole story about men with boxcutters and yet the call NEVER took place!] That means there’s no connection to a cellular network, says Blasi. Even if some passengers left their phones on during Flight 370, it would be tough for their phones to connect with a tower given the speeds planes travel at and the altitudes involved. [Exactly! So then HOW and to who and where di these members of the passengers’ families get a connection? Because, somewhere, the plane was on the ground! Again, absolutely no ifs buts or maybes about this. These mobile phones were within site of a base station located on the ground]
Q: What about flying over the ocean?
A: Flying over oceans reduces the odds of a connection even more, since there just aren’t cell towers there [Correct and obvious]. Charles McColgan, chief technology officer for the mobile identity firm TeleSign says that while investigators might be able to determine the last cell tower that cellphones had contact with before the plane started flying over water, if the plane was flying above 10,000 feet at the time, the phones on it wouldn’t be able to make a connection with a tower. [I’d even question seriously flying at 5000ft or less and at speed]
“Anyone leading the investigation should check, but it is unlikely that pinging a passenger’s phone is going to find them,” McColgan says. [Yes they SHOULD check. They should be contacting the telecommunications network provider who routed these calls. Have they done it? No, not that I know of. Why? THAT is a VERY interesting question!]
Q: What if the plane managed to crash on land and some people and phones survived?
A: If someone could get a signal, in theory they could make a call. But if the plane went down in a remote area without service, then they would be out of luck. Foreign travel also complicates things. Unless a person signs up for local phone service in whatever country they’re traveling through, his or her phone may not be able to connect to a network, says Blasi, who spent more than 35 years at AT&T before going into consulting. [No, you don’t have to sign up for “local service” – he’s suggesting you need to call a provider for this. No, you just request or ensure you have roaming from your own provider. This is normal and most people have it if they travel at all. There were Freescale employees on that flight and there is no way they would not have had their mobiles roaming if they didn’t also have something like a Blackberry.]
Q: What about reports of people who claim they called the phones of loved ones who were on the flight and said the phone rang several times without an answer, rather than going straight to voice mail, indicating that the phone might be connected to a network?
A: This doesn’t necessarily mean that the phone is connected to a network, is turned on, or is even operational. It just means that the cellular carrier’s system is taking some time to look for the phone. [Rubbish! If there was ringtone then the network had located the phone AND it was operational. It MAY have been turned off BUT, nevertheless, it would HAVE to have been in the location of a base station and that network provider will have the details of where (which base station) that call was routed to and on which network if an international roaming call]
Each of the cell sites have their own cell identity. That cell identity is known for every call/connection which takes place in a network because the call made needs to “find” the mobile it is calling before the set up of a connection can take place. If the phone is “ringing” then the network has located that phone!
Q: Is there any hope if the plane crashed in the water and the phones on board were soaked? [Stupid bloody question!]
A: Water and electronics don’t mix, so generally speaking the answer is no.
So, the bottom line is this: The authorities have not, as I understand it, even followed up this line of enquiry and that, to me, is very very telling. There is something they don’t want us to know! There are telecommunications network operators out there who have that information.
Wherever, on the planet, those mobiles were, there is a specific, known, identified cell tower which connected them.
Addendum:
I have now just found this exact same article/interview posted on an Australian new outlet’s page. It would seem someone has been tasked to BROADCAST a message to the world that it is “unlikely” that the mobile phones can be of any use. It is then being rebroadcast as “fact” while missing the entire point – the mobiles connected! Someone is trying to subdue this issue. That is quite clear. While the authorities have not even followed the scent! What you have is some half baked “specialist” saying it would not be useful – that is total rubbish! – but the airline and investigative authorities have not even suggested they are looking into it! Now why would that be? People say they got a connection and yet the authorities do not contact the telecommunications network operators to follow where exactly the routing of those calls went?
It stinks!
MH370: Rupert Murdoch tweets
The senile, corrupt old zionist. Propagandist to the last. Tweets utter crap but gets retweeted hundreds of times. He could spit shit from his mouth (as he is doing here) and he’d still make headlines.
“Confirms jihadists making trouble for china”??? What exactly leads you to that conclusion Rupert? Oh yes I forgot, you’re a zionist so anything, anywhere, will be down to those nasty old jihadists.
“Chance for US to make common cause with China”??? What planet are you on man? How, exactly, does it allow that? Meanwhile China’s already somewhat in the pocket of the globalists! Oh but you don’t talk about the globalists do you? Let’s keep it to nations against nations shall we? That suits your agenda far better.
“Russia bullies”?? Who exactly? Didn’t I just hear Crimea had a referendum to attach itself once more to Russia? Since they ARE Russians in the majority after all. Where is the bullying Rupe?
“like Bin Laden”? You mean a wild goose chase? Ah now I hear ya!
“Effectively hidden” – ah yes! But by whom Rupert? Bin Laden’s still alive and opened up one of his cave’s in Tora Bora – a bit like that cave they used to have in a volcano in “Thunderbirds”? Have you been speaking with Donald Rumsfeld about his massive underground Al Qaeda headquarters again? You guys watched far too many Gerry Anderson tv series.
Perhaps get Joe 90 to search for Tracy Island in the Indian ocean somewhere. He night find Captain Scarlet has changed sides and is working for the Mysterons these days!
Will someone tell me what Twitter is good for except assholes tweeting crap?
Malaysian MH370: There’s at least one turd in the punchbowl.
All those countries; All those ships and aircraft while, at the very same time, there are people out there, belonging to one or more of those very same countries, who know precisely, the fate of MH370. Just think about that because that, I can assure you, is a fact.
There may be Captains of certain vessels out there from the very country(s) who carried out this example of state (or state sponsored) terrorism/hijacking, who don’t know they are being led on a wild goose chase (or, indeed, they may be fully aware) while they “trawl” the seas for wreckage I believe they will never find.
Which countries are taking part?
Malaysia has deployed around 18 aircraft and 27 ships, including the submarine support vessel MV Mega Bakti which is able to detect objects in water at depths of up to 1,000m.
Huge numbers of maritime police, air force and other personnel are also taking part in the hunt.
China, Vietnam, USA, Thailand, Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, New Zealand, Japan, India and the Philippines are also contributing ships, aircraft and personnel, while other nations such as Brunei have also offered support.
The majority of the 239 people on board flight MH370 were Chinese, and Beijing has dispatched four warships to help in the search and rescue mission.
First to be sent was the frigate Mianyang which was diverted to the south-east of Vietnam. It was joined by the landing craft Jinggangshan and its support vessels.
Destroyer Haikou and amphibious landing ship Kunlunshan set off on Sunday from two southern Chinese ports with a 50-strong marine corps as well as assault boats and rubber dinghies aboard, according to the People’s Liberation Army ( PLA) Navy.
On Tuesday, China said it also deployed four civilian ships, two military aircraft, and up to 10 satellites, to assist the search.
And somebody (or somebodies) – high up in the chain of command of one or a few of those countries – knows exactly what’s going on. Who would you guess that, or those, countries are? If I thought for one second that the truth would come out, I’d lay every penny I have left to my name, my house, my car, everything, on the USA. Either people within the government (most likely), people at the highest echelons of the world banking community (most likely) and the intelligence services. There is no doubt in my mind of that. Not a single one.
The question is why? And what have they done with the plane? Well as to why, I covered my idea in a previous blog on the subject. As to what they have done with the plane? Who knows? Certainly not me. But we can have our suspicions based upon what we sense from all that is being said and all that we know.
If you want me to take a “punt” on what’s happened to the plane, here is my “punt” (but that’s all it is right now and, of course, were it to be correct, we’ll never know UNLESS the USA wishes to start World War 3 that is).
Here is a map of the most up to date understanding (or belief) re the flight path the plane took. I have added my additional flight path belief to it in yellow:
Now, here is a line on Google Earth representing the distance between KL and Beijing – approximately 4000Km…
And here’s a similar line between KL and somewhere in the BRITISH Indian Ocean territory – approx 3500Km….
And here IS that BRITISH Indian Ocean territory…
There won’t be a lot of radar around that area of the world EXCEPT American Military radar. Why American military radar?
Well, because of this. What you’re looking at in the centre of that image is Diego Garcia…
A little background on Diego Garcia:
To accomplish the UK/United States mutual defense strategy, in November 1965, the UK purchased the Chagos Archipelago, which includes Diego Garcia, from the then self-governing colony of Mauritius for £3 million to create the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT), with the intent of ultimately closing the plantations to provide the uninhabited British territory from which the United States would conduct its military activities in the region.
On 30 December 1966, the United States and the UK executed an agreement through an Exchange of Notes which permit the United States to use the BIOT for defense purposes for 50 years (through December 2016), followed by a 20-year optional extension (to 2036) to which both parties must agree by December 2014. No monetary payment was made from the United States to the UK as part of this agreement or any subsequent amendment. Rather, the United Kingdom received a US$14 million discount from the United States on the acquisition of submarine-launched ballistic missile system Polaris missiles per a now-declassified addendum to the 1966 agreement.
In March 1971, United States Naval construction battalions (Seabees) arrived on Diego Garcia to begin the construction of the Communications Station and an airfield. To satisfy the terms of an agreement between the UK and the United States for an uninhabited island, the plantation on Diego Garcia was closed in October of that year. The plantation workers and their families were relocated to the plantations on Peros Bahnos and Salomon atolls to the northwest; those who requested were transported to the Seychelles or Mauritius. In 1972, the UK decided to close the plantations throughout the Chagos, including those on Peros Banhos and the Salomon Islands, and deported the Ilois to their ancestral homes on either the Seychelles or Mauritius. The then-independent Mauritian government refused to accept the islanders without payment, and in 1974, the UK gave the Mauritian government an additional ₤650,000 to resettle the islanders.
By 1973, construction of the Naval Communications Station (NAVCOMMSTA) was completed. In the early 1970s, setbacks to United States military capabilities in the region including the fall of Saigon, victory of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, the closure of the Peshawar Air Station listening post in Pakistan and Kagnew Station in Ethiopia, the Mayaguez incident, and the build-up of Soviet Naval presence in Aden and a Soviet airbase at Berbera, Somalia, caused the United States to request, and the UK to approve, permission to build a fleet anchorage and enlarged airfield on Diego Garcia, and the Seabees doubled the number of workers constructing these facilities.
Following the fall of the Shah of Iran and the Iran Hostage Crisis in 1979–1980, the West became concerned with ensuring the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz, and the United States received permission for a $400 million expansion of the military facilities on Diego Garcia consisting of two parallel 12,000-foot-long (3,700 m) runways, expansive parking aprons for heavy bombers, 20 new anchorages in the lagoon, a deep water pier, port facilities for the largest naval vessels in the American or British fleet, aircraft hangars, maintenance buildings and an air terminal, a 1,340,000 barrels (213,000 m3) fuel storage area, and billeting and messing facilities for thousands of sailors and support personnel.
In 2004, the UK applied for, and received, Ramsar Site status for the lagoon and other waters of Diego Garcia.
On 1 April 2010, the UK Cabinet declared the Chagos Archipelago a Marine Protected Area (MPA) and prohibited all extractive industry, including fishing and oil and gas exploration. It is unclear whether Diego Garcia is included in the MPA.
The Ramsar Convention (formally, the Convention on Wetlands of International Importance, especially as Waterfowl Habitat) is an international treaty for the conservation and sustainable utilization of wetlands, i.e., to stem the progressive encroachment on and loss of wetlands now and in the future, recognizing the fundamental ecological functions of wetlands and their economic, cultural, scientific, and recreational value. It is named after the city of Ramsar in Iran, where the Convention was signed in 1971.
Now isn’t that just “delicious”? Have the place protected, “for marine life you understand”, from “extractive industry” while then protecting a billion dollar Military site. “It’s for the birds and the fish you know!” Meanwhile, 1,151 people were displaced from their homes and the Mauritian government were paid £650,000 to resettle the the people. That’s roughly £565 per person. For the upending of their entire lives. But remember, this was paid to the government not to the people themselves. I’ll let you ponder that and wonder how much the people got. Yet the Mauritian government got paid £3m just for the land itself half a decade before. I wonder whose pockets that money went into? These people were ROYALLY (yes her again) fcuked. They had no choice, they didn’t wish to be resettled and they were told “We’ve agreed with your government. Cause any problems and you’ll find a bullet in your head.” And that’s international law for ya!
So now Diego garcia is used by the US/UK for extraordinary rendition flights. Things and people just disappear around that area you know. It’s like a man made Bermuda Triangle!
And yes, I just happen to think that there is a VERY good chance that MH370 has been “diverted” there. Just to give Malaysia a warning? No, there’s never just one reason for anything. 9/11 was staged for multiple reasons and I entirely believe this was too. For instance, just as Larry Silverstein made a shitload of cash for the double “terrorist” strike on the WTC which he owned and had just insured for precisely such an event(s), I have a sneaking suspicion that money was made from this event too. For example, as described in a previous article, the volume of trading in Malaysian Airlines shot up just the week before the event. The shares plummeted. Insider knowledge?
Secondly, there are reports that suggest there was a heavy load of cargo on that MH370 plane. So much so that, while the actually number of passengers was not to capacity of the aircraft (over 50 vacant seats), reports have suggested that there were a number of the passengers who flew standby. The reason given for this was that cargo uplift may have limited passenger capacity.
Question – how often does routine cargo on a passenger flight displace this much passenger uplift capacity?
If it was revealed that the cargo included a heavy valuable substance weighing as much as 50 passengers and their baggage, would this give pause for thought?
Passenger list also contained some 30 odd state of the art cyber warfare techies and execs from 5 global organisations, many with direct links to China. Coincidence?
Has anyone at the intended destination spoken up about not receiving any of their expected (valuable) cargo? There are two things they are not divulging (and yet must be known): Amount of fuel and the cargo onboard. Yes, fleeting mention has been made of the possibility of lithium batteries or something but that was just for the sake of another theory of how the plane may have caught fire. The Airline will know PRECISELY how much fuel the aircraft had AND what cargo was on it.
Just for the sake of an example:
If the flight was carrying a consigned gold cargo:
50pax * (75kg + 23kg) = 4900kg
Gold is approx US$1300/oz,
4900kg = 172842oz, therefore,
172842 * 1300 = US$224.7mil
The aforementioned figures are for example only, and intended just to highlight the scope of wealth that can be transported on such an aircraft.
Now, I’m not saying that there is a Malaysian Airlines 777 sitting on the tarmac in Diego Garcia right now. DG may well have just been a stop-over.
Think about it: The radars showing the new flightpath are suggesting what? That someone knew exactly what they were doing for one thing. But, in flying west, where were they thinking of taking it and landing without being intercepted? India? Sri Lanka? Iran? Saudi? To reach Iran would have necessitated flying over Indian airspace. If not, it would have had to have taken one hell of a detour and used up fuel (and fly closer to Diego Garcia with the chance of being picked up on their radar). Flying over Indian airspace would be a death sentence. Not only that, whoever “hijacked” it truly expected to be in the air for a substantial number of hours without being noticed or intercepted by radar and then military planes? Could it even have made Saudi or Iran on its fuel?
Missing Malaysia plane may have run out of fuel over Indian Ocean – source
WASHINGTON, March 14 Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:30am GMT
The source, who is familiar with data the U.S. government is receiving from the investigation into the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines plane, said the other, but less likely possibility, was that it flew on toward India.
The data obtained from pulses the plane sent to satellites had been interpreted to provide two different analyses because it was ambiguous, said the source, who declined to be identified because of the ongoing investigation.
But it offers the first real clues as to the fate of Flight MH370, which officials increasingly believe was deliberately diverted off its scheduled course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
Too many “sources” these days who decline to be identified in so many of our media’s stories!
Exclusive: Radar data suggests missing Malaysia plane flown deliberately toward Andamans – sources
BY NILUKSI KOSWANAGE AND SIVA GOVINDASAMY
KUALA LUMPUR Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:27am GMT
Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints – indicating it was being flown by someone with aviation training – when it was last plotted on military radar off the country’s northwest coast.
The last plot on the military radar’s tracking suggested the plane was flying toward India’s Andaman Islands, a chain of isles between the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal, they said.
Waypoints are geographic locations, worked out by calculating longitude and latitude, that help pilots navigate along established air corridors.
A third source familiar with the investigation said inquiries were focusing increasingly on the theory that someone who knew how to fly a plane deliberately diverted the flight, with 239 people on board, hundreds of miles off its intended course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
“What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards,” said that source, a senior Malaysian police official.
All three sources declined to be identified because they were not authorised to speak to the media and due to the sensitivity of the investigation.
Officials at Malaysia’s Ministry of Transport, the official point of contact for information on the investigation, did not return calls seeking comment.
Malaysian police have previously said they were investigating whether any passengers or crew had personal or psychological problems that might shed light on the mystery, along with the possibility of a hijacking, sabotage or mechanical failure.
The comments by the three sources are the first clear indication that foul play is the main focus of official suspicions in the Boeing 777’s disappearance.
As a result of the new evidence, the sources said, multinational search efforts were being stepped up in the Andaman Sea and also the Indian Ocean.
LAST SIGHTING
In one of the most baffling mysteries in modern aviation, no trace of the plane nor any sign of wreckage has been found despite a search by the navies and military aircraft of more than a dozen countries.
The last sighting of the aircraft on civilian radar screens came shortly before 1:30 a.m. Malaysian time last Saturday (1730 GMT Friday), less than an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur, as the plane flew northeast across the mouth of the Gulf of Thailand. That put the plane on Malaysia’s east coast.
Malaysia’s air force chief said on Wednesday an aircraft that could have been the missing plane was plotted on military radar at 2:15 a.m., 200 miles (320 km) northwest of Penang Island off Malaysia’s west coast.
This position marks the limit of Malaysia’s military radar in that part of the country, a fourth source familiar with the investigation told Reuters.
When asked about the range of military radar at a news conference on Thursday, Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said it was “a sensitive issue” that he was not going to reveal.
“Even if it doesn’t extend beyond that, we can get the cooperation of the neighbouring countries,” he said.
The fact that the aircraft – if it was MH370 – had lost contact with air traffic control and was invisible to civilian radar suggested someone aboard had turned its communication systems off, the first two sources said.
They also gave new details on the direction in which the unidentified aircraft was heading – following aviation corridors identified on maps used by pilots as N571 and P628. These routes are taken by commercial planes flying from Southeast Asia to the Middle East or Europe and can be found in public documents issued by regional aviation authorities.
In a far more detailed description of the military radar plotting than has been publicly revealed, the first two sources said the last confirmed position of MH370 was at 35,000 feet about 90 miles (144 km) off the east coast of Malaysia, heading towards Vietnam, near a navigational waypoint called “Igari”. The time was 1:21 a.m.
Malaysian PM says lost airliner was diverted deliberately
BY ANSHUMAN DAGA AND SIVA GOVINDASAMY
KUALA LUMPUR Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:19pm GMT
A week after the disappearance of flight MH370, Najib said its last transmission of satellite data came nearly seven hours after it disappeared from radar screens.
But the new satellite data gave no precise location, and the plane’s altered course could have taken it anywhere from central Asia to the southern Indian Ocean, he said.
Minutes after the Malaysian leader outlined investigators’ latest findings, police began searching the house of the aircraft’s 53-year-old captain for any evidence that he could have been involved in foul play.
The Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER vanished en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in the early hours of March 8 with 239 passengers and crew aboard.
Najib, giving his first statement at a news conference since then, confirmed reports that investigators believe somebody cut off the plane’s communications reporting system, switched off its transponder and steered it west, far from its scheduled route.
“In view of this latest development the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board,” he said.
“Despite media reports the plane was hijacked, I wish to be very clear, we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate.”
Search operations by navies and aircraft from more than a dozen nations were immediately called off in the Gulf of Thailand and the South China Sea to the east of Malaysia, where the plane dropped off civilian air traffic control screens at 1:22 a.m. last Saturday (1722 GMT on Friday).
Malaysia said new data showed the last communication between the missing plane and satellites at 8:11 a.m. (0011 GMT), almost seven hours after it turned back and crossed the Malay peninsula.
The data did not show whether the plane was still flying or its location at that time, presenting searchers with a daunting array of possible last locations. Seven hours’ more flying time would likely have taken it to the limit of its fuel load.
TWO CORRIDORS
Najib said the plane’s final communication with satellites placed it somewhere in one of two corridors: a northern arc stretching from northern Thailand to the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, or a southern one stretching from Indonesia to the vast southern Indian Ocean.
“Clearly, the search for MH370 has entered a new phase,” said Najib, whose government has come under criticism for its slow release of information surrounding one of the most baffling mysteries in aviation history.
India stepped up its search in two areas at the request of Malaysia – one around the Andaman and Nicobar Islands and another further west across the Bay of Bengal – but found no evidence that would indicate that the plane had come down in its waters, the Defence Ministry said.
A senior military official in Port Blair, capital of the archipelago, said Indian aircraft had combed waters stretching up to 300 nautical miles (550 km) offshore and overflown all 572 islands in the chain but “we don’t have anything so far”.
India’s Eastern Naval Command was investigating a separate rectangular ‘box’ 15 km wide by 600 km long, some 900 km east of Port Blair, but had found nothing.
About two-thirds of the passengers on board the flight were Chinese, and Beijing has been showing increasing impatience with the speed and coordination of the Malaysian search effort.
On Saturday, China said it had demanded that Malaysia keep providing more thorough and accurate information, and added that it was sending a technical team to Malaysia to help with the investigation.
China’s Xinhua state news agency said in a commentary that Najib’s disclosure of the new details was “painfully belated”.
“And due to the absence – or at least lack – of timely authoritative information, massive efforts have been squandered, and numerous rumours have been spawned, repeatedly racking the nerves of the awaiting families,” it said.
The fate of flight MH370 has been shrouded in mystery since it disappeared off Malaysia’s east coast less than an hour into its scheduled flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.
But investigators have increasingly discounted the possibility of an accident due to the deliberate way it was diverted and had its communications switched off.
EXPERIENCED CAPTAIN
Investigative sources told Reuters on Friday they believed the plane was following a commonly used navigational route when it was last spotted early on Saturday, northwest of Malaysia.
Their suspicion has hardened that it was flown off-course by the pilot or co-pilot, or someone else with detailed knowledge of how to fly and navigate a large commercial aircraft.
No details have emerged of any passengers or crew with militant links or psychological problems that could explain a motive for sabotaging the flight.
The experienced captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, was a flying enthusiast who spent his off days tinkering with a flight simulator of the plane that he had set up at home, current and former co-workers said. Malaysia Airlines officials did not believe he would have sabotaged the flight.
The 27-year-old co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid, was religious and serious about his career, family and friends said, countering news reports suggesting he was a cockpit Romeo who was reckless on the job.
As the search enters its second week, several governments are using imagery satellites – platforms that take high definition photos – while data from private sector communications satellites is also being examined. China alone says it has deployed 10 satellites.
“The area is enormous. Finding anything rapidly is going to be very difficult,” said Marc Pircher, director of the French space centre in Toulouse. “The area and scale of the task is such that 99 percent of what you are getting are false alarms.”
The corridors given by Najib represent a satellite track, which appears as an arc on a map. The plane did not necessarily follow the corridor, but was at some point along its path at the moment the signal was sent.
Officials at Kazakhstan’s state air navigation service were not available for comment while in Turkmenistan, state aviation officials referred queries to the Foreign Ministry.
Afghanistan‘s ministry of aviation said its controllers were certain the plane had not crossed their airspace. A spokesman for Pakistan’s civilian airspace authority said: “We have not received any requests from Malaysia authorities for help, nor have we any information on the plane’s whereabouts.”
SATELLITES
Earlier, a source familiar with official U.S. assessments of electronic signals sent to geostationary satellites operated by Britain’s Inmarsat said it appeared most likely the plane had turned south over the Indian Ocean, where it would presumably have run out of fuel and crashed into the sea.
If so, just finding the plane – let alone recovering the “black box” data and cockpit voice recorders that hold the key to the mystery – would be a huge challenge.
The Indian Ocean has an average depth of more than 12,000 feet, or two miles (3.5 km). This is deeper than the Atlantic, where it took two years to locate wreckage on the seabed from an Air France plane that vanished in 2009, even though floating debris quickly gave an indication of the area of the crash.
Any debris would have been widely dispersed by Indian Ocean currents in the week since the plane disappeared.
“We have many radar systems operating in the area, but nothing was picked up,” Rear Admiral Sudhir Pillai, Chief of Staff of India’s Andamans and Nicobar Command, told Reuters.
“It is possible that the military radars were switched off as we operate on an as-required basis. So perhaps secondary radars were operating, which may not have the required range to detect a flight at an altitude of 35,000 feet.”
The other interpretation was that the aircraft continued to fly to the northwest and headed over Indian territory.
The source said it was believed unlikely the plane had flown for any length of time over India because it has strong air defence and radar coverage that should have allowed authorities to see the plane and intercept it.
It is extremely rare for a modern passenger aircraft to disappear once it has reached cruising altitude, as MH370 had. When that does happen, the debris from a crash is usually found relatively quickly, close to its last known position.
In this case, there has been no trace of the plane, nor any sign of wreckage.
The maximum range of the Boeing 777-200ER is 7,725 nautical miles or 14,305 km. It is not clear how much fuel the aircraft was carrying, though it would have been enough to reach its scheduled destination, Beijing, a flight of five hours and 50 minutes, plus some reserve.
Malaysian PM’s statement (15th March):
Seven days ago Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared. We realise this is an excruciating time for the families of those on board. No words can describe the pain they must be going through. Our thoughts and our prayers are with them.
I have been appraised of the on-going search operation round the clock. At the beginning of the operation, I ordered the search area to be broadened; I instructed the Malaysian authorities to share all relevant information freely and transparently with the wider investigation team; and I requested that our friends and allies join the operation. As of today, 14 countries, 43 ships and 58 aircraft are involved in the search. I wish to thank all the governments for their help at such a crucial time.
Since day one, the Malaysian authorities have worked hand-in-hand with our international partners – including neighbouring countries, the aviation authorities and a multinational search force – many of whom have been here on the ground since Sunday.
We have shared information in real time with authorities who have the necessary experience to interpret the data. We have been working nonstop to assist the investigation. And we have put our national security second to the search for the missing plane.
It is widely understood that this has been a situation without precedent.
We have conducted search operations over land, in the South China Sea, the Straits of Malacca, the Andaman Sea and the Indian Ocean. At every stage, we acted on the basis of verified information, and we followed every credible lead. Sometimes these leads have led nowhere.
There has been intense speculation. We understand the desperate need for information on behalf of the families and those watching around the world. But we have a responsibility to the investigation and the families to only release information that has been corroborated. And our primary motivation has always been to find the plane.
In the first phase of the search operation, we searched near MH370’s last known position, in the South China Sea. At the same time, it was brought to our attention by the Royal Malaysian Air Force that, based on their primary radar, an aircraft – the identity of which could not be confirmed – made a turn back. The primary radar data showed the aircraft proceeding on a flight path which took it to an area north of the Straits of Malacca.
Given this credible data, which was subsequently corroborated with the relevant international authorities, we expanded the area of search to include the Straits of Malacca and, later, to the Andaman Sea.
Early this morning I was briefed by the investigation team – which includes the FAA, NTSB, the AAIB, the Malaysian authorities and the Acting Minister of Transport – on new information that sheds further light on what happened to MH370.
Based on new satellite information, we can say with a high degree of certainty that the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was disabled just before the aircraft reached the East coast of peninsular Malaysia. Shortly afterwards, near the border between Malaysian and Vietnamese air traffic control, the aircraft’s transponder was switched off.
From this point onwards, the Royal Malaysian Air Force primary radar showed that an aircraft which was believed – but not confirmed – to be MH370 did indeed turn back. It then flew in a westerly direction back over peninsular Malaysia before turning northwest. Up until the point at which it left military primary radar coverage, these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane.
Today, based on raw satellite data that was obtained from the satellite data service provider, we can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data was flight MH370. After much forensic work and deliberation, the FAA, NTSB, AAIB and the Malaysian authorities, working separately on the same data, concur.
According to the new data, the last confirmed communication between the plane and the satellite was at 8:11AM Malaysian time on Saturday 8th March. The investigations team is making further calculations which will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after this last point of contact. This will help us to refine the search.
Due to the type of satellite data, we are unable to confirm the precise location of the plane when it last made contact with the satellite.
However, based on this new data, the aviation authorities of Malaysia and their international counterparts have determined that the plane’s last communication with the satellite was in one of two possible corridors: a northern corridor stretching approximately from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to northern Thailand, or a southern corridor stretching approximately from Indonesia to the southern Indian ocean. The investigation team is working to further refine the information.
In view of this latest development the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board. Despite media reports that the plane was hijacked, I wish to be very clear: we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate from its original flight path.
This new satellite information has a significant impact on the nature and scope of the search operation. We are ending our operations in the South China Sea and reassessing the redeployment of our assets. We are working with the relevant countries to request all information relevant to the search, including radar data.
As the two new corridors involve many countries, the relevant foreign embassies have been invited to a briefing on the new information today by the Malaysian Foreign Ministry and the technical experts. I have also instructed the Foreign Ministry to provide a full briefing to foreign governments which had passengers on the plane. This morning, Malaysia Airlines has been informing the families of the passengers and crew of these new developments.
Clearly, the search for MH370 has entered a new phase. Over the last seven days, we have followed every lead and looked into every possibility. For the families and friends of those involved, we hope this new information brings us one step closer to finding the plane.
ENDS
The Malaysian PM is briefed, so what he says he thinks he knows isn’t what HE knows but what he is led to believe by the briefing team.
There’s only two airstrips in the Northern Indian Ocean (besides DG) – CCK (8000′) and XCH (6900′).
Both of these are well-established Australian territories with top-class communications, and I’m sure we’d have heard by now if a stray B777 rolled up to either.
Reports say that MH370’s last ACARS pings were received by Inmarsat.
If it’s a fact that the pings were received by Inmarsat only, and not by ACARS ground stations, couldn’t you deduce that MH370 was not in range of an ACARS ground station when it sent its last pings?
SITA ACARS ground station coverage:
So, pretty much covered then by SITA ACARS isn’t it? However, where is one place which just so happens to be located in British Indian Ocean Territory far away from SITA ACARS? Diego Garcia!
But then something keeps coming back to haunt me and that is the statement made by the Malaysian Embassy official in Beijing on the day of the disappearance: Flight MH370 landed in Nanning, China. It was stated by an official of the Malaysian Embassy then it was discarded by another official in Malaysia itself and the statement was forgotten rather than people ask why an official would make such a statement so erroneously?
Why I mention this once more is because, when you look at the Inmarsat pings, the satellite is suggesting two possible arcs with the plane’s last “known” / possible position. Which, in itself makes me think “How good is satellite data and the spying capabilities if this is the best result of triangulation it can come up with for a massive Boeing 777 aircraft?
Anyhow, note that Nanning lies very close to the bottom/east point of the top arc while, for the aircraft to be on any other point on that arc as a last known point, it would have crossed any number of radars in multiple countries. The southern arc wouldn’t really make sense.
But then, with all the deliberate confusion which is going into this event (and it certainly is deliberate), nothing makes sense. Just how they like it. 😉
Final destination? How about South Africa? With DG a stop over?
Why?
Oh I don’t know! Just a hunch!
cv
Picture this: MH370 V 9/11
Hello boys and girls!
Say after me: “Must”, “Hit”, “Steel”, “Plane”, “Kite”
Thank you, now run along!
Here is a photo of the very same MH370 aircraft that has gone missing:
Yes, it is, in fact, the very Boeing 777 aircraft which was MH370.
SHANGHAI – The Malaysian Airlines jet which went missing on Saturday over the gulf of Thailand, had previsouly been involved in a minor ground collision in China in 2012.
This emerged from a report (see below) released by the Bureau d’Enquêtes et d’Analyses pour la sécurité de l’aviation civile (BEA), a French authority responsible for investigations into civil aviation incidents.
The missing Boeing 777-200 carries the registration 9M-MRO, which is the same one recorded in the incident report by BEA, on August 9, 2012.
According to the report and witness accounts, while taxiing at Shanghai’s Pudong International Airport, the wing of the Malaysian jet hit the tail of a China Eastern Airlines A340-600 plane, which was stationery at the time.
There were no injuries, but the Malaysian Boeing suffered substantial damage to its wing, with the wingtip shearing off and left hanging from the tail of the Airbus concerned.
The Boeing underwent a full repair and was reportedly then cleared to fly.
So, the wingtip sheared off because it came into contact with A340’s STATIONARY aluminium tail.
Now let’s look at an Airbus 340:
A Boeing 777’s wingtip will be sheared off by an A340’s tail! Aluminium V aluminium and the Boeing 777 had the momentum. But sure, tails, particularly at the lower area where they meet the fuselage, are more robust than a wingtip… granted. But I can and will and always shall assure you that a reinforced steel box section of a substantial, stationary building is far more substantial than an A340 (or A380) tail section.
Now, let’s just prove that assertion allowing for no more argument on this point (other than from a slightly inept politician or troll that is):
Here is an Airbus A380 at a Paris airshow in 2012:
Airbus flew a double-decker Airbus A380 to the 2011 Paris Airshow to put on display and to hopefully attract additional customers. However, while taxiing, the world’s largest airliner’s wing clipped a building ripping off the right winglet and putting the aircraft out of service and unable to fly.
A picture speaks a thousand words doesn’t it? 🙂
Get the picture?
That building is neither a World Trade Tower nor a Pentagon. I have stated over and over that those planes did not slice through those buildings on 9/11
I do not know what anyone (even our esteemed physicists and scientists and structural engineers need before they stop talking shit about aeroplanes having pierced reinforced buildings. Even Architects for 9/11 truth still stick to the story that planes flew into those buildings!
They never did. But no bugger listens unless you can flash a PhD or your some form of celebrity in the form of a politician or renowned Air Force pilot or physicist.
People just like being told something is fact by someone else that they feel they should respect the opinion of because they’re renowned for one reason or another.
One wingtip sheared off by one building. I rest my case!
While, let me just republish the “Superbird” story and the rest once more…
And have a look at this one. Particularly keep a close eye on the two wooden “telephone poles” on the left of the screen as you watch the plane come directly toward you. And take special notice of the furthest pole to the left. It just slices through the wing with no problems. It is not steel and concrete and it has no substantial mass behind it as the buildings (floors) on 9/11 did.
How people refuse to acknowledge all of this is beyond my comprehension.
MH370: The Independent joke of the year!
To the INDEPENDENT NEWSPAPER in the UK:
ARE YOU FRICKING SERIOUS?
THE SCAM IS THAT PHOTO!
Sack your journalist and your Editor! This is either sheer incompetence and they shouldn’t have a job OR this is sheer propaganda on your part for the purposes of promulgating a narrative which has a dangerous and insidious agenda behind it.
OBVIOUS FAKE, COMPOSITE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE TWO “IRANIAN” FAKE PASSPORT HOLDERS
There is now, without a doubt, an agenda going on here regarding this MH370 flight. You’d have to be dead from the neck up not to recognise it.
We have two separate photos taken of the so called “Iranians” who “boarded the plane with fake European ID passports”. The two photos shown above having one small problem however. The legs and feet of each individual are precisely the same kegs and feet! Now I’ve heard of and seen co-joined twins before but I have never seen two entirely facially different twins who are not co-joined but have precisely the same legs and feet. Whoever this man is holding these photos, he’s a first class plonker! A total moron!
However, for a so called Independent journalist to actually write a piece around this photo and he is so incapable to see what is in front of his eyes, he should either be sacked on the spot or shot! This is the height of incompetence or, a deliberate agenda. Take your pick Independent.
Ah but you can’t sack him can you? He’s a Freelance. No bloody wonder! He’ll be lucky to sell another article after this!
Skills: Researcher? Have you ever played “Spot the difference” Mark?
You can sack the Editor who accepted this however!
“All westerners look the same to me” says MH370 DCA Chief
Malaysian DCA chief, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, having yesterday advised reporters that the two passengers using faked passports on MH370 looked like Balotelli, the Italian footballer, has now been asked how the photo of one of those passengers, now released, is of an arab/Iranian looking man?
Mr Abdul Rahman has, as yet, given no official reply but sources close to him have alleged that he stated, in private “All these bloody westerners look the same to me!”
“We’ve looked at the footage of the video and the photographs… it is confirmed now that they are not asian looking males.”
When asked by a reporter “If they are not asian looking males then what are they looking like?”, his response – through some hilarity coming from the audience for some reason – was “Do you know of a footballer by the name of Bartolli?… Balotelli? He’s an Italian. You know how he looks like?… I don’t want to dwell about it but they are not asian looking.”
So here is Balotelli:
And here is the released photo of one of the fake passport passengers just issued today:
Now here’s the question: Will ANYONE now challenge either Mr Abdul Rahman or the other investigators and ask how they can possibly come up with something so inexplicably insane as they did yesterday. They had the photos, they looked like Balotelli – they then release one of the photos and it looks like a clean cut middle eastern student.
WTF?
Has Balotelli been taking tips from Michael Jackson?
Update from BBC Asia:
The Balotelli twins!
And not a word in the article referring to Balotelli or the statements made yesterday as to what these pair looked like.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26525281
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