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The UK government are all self employed Private contractors!

Posted in Politics, Uncategorized by earthlinggb on March 6, 2014

I have just stumbled across something intriguing which points to the very title of this blogpost.

Have a read of the following:

HC Deb 31 January 1957 vol 563 cc1156-71156

§28. Mr. Russellasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what arrangements are made for insuring Members of the Government against accident when they travel by air on Government business.

§Mr. PowellInsurance in such circumstances is a matter for Members of the Government to arrange privately.

§Mr. RussellDoes not my hon. Friend think that in principle it is quite wrong that Ministers should travel on Government business and not have the benefit of insurance? Although happily the chances of accidents are slight, is not the position wrong as a matter of principle?

§Mr. PowellNowadays, of course, the cost of insurance against risks of travel in these circumstances is very low, and my hon. Friend will probably be aware that Ministers of the Crown count as non-employed persons.

Mr. H. WilsonCan the hon. Member say whether the Treasury, which ought to set an example as a good employer in 1157this connection, does provide automatic insurance for civil servants travelling by air?

§Mr. PowellThe Treasury is not the employer of Ministers of the Crown.

§Mr. J. GriffithsWill the hon. Member get his terms right? Ministers of the Crown are not non-employed, but self-employed.

§Mr. PowellI am much obliged.

Mr. WilsonIn his début in answering these Questions, will the hon. Member give a clear answer to questions and not clever answers of that kind? I asked him whether the Treasury, which is responsible for the Civil Service, sets an example in this respect and provides insurance. That is very important for the Civil Service.

§Mr. PowellIf the right hon. Gentleman will put down a Question about the Civil Service, I will do my best to answer it.

Now, if these people (Government Ministers) are self employed, yet paid by the Treasury – which, it would certainly appear they are – then they are Private individuals contracting their services. This opens up a whole can (or cans) of worms and it’s difficult to know where to start!

1. Private individuals who are paid a salary set by the treasury and iPSA, as contractors, who make decisions based upon their own personal ideologies, as to what is law in this country and what industries are supported and which are not.

2. Private individuals, contracting their services as self employed, which then explains why each and every one of them can act as a “corporation”.

In 2001, Ken Clarke was still a backbencher so was still making a very healthy salary from being an MP, Yet he was also allowed to make the following incomes from business interests:

BAT Tobacco: £100,000 per annum.

Alliance Unichem: £125,000 per annum.

Foreign & Colonial Investment trust: £23,000 per annum.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1409823.stm

Then he has his speaking engagements:

Clarke speaker

Clarke speaker 2

Now, if you can tell me how one man, with 24 hours in the day like you and I and 365 days a year like you and I, can do serious work for any one of these organisations and be worth such money, while, at the same time, be a full-time backbencher making an additional salary of about $50K a year, I’d like to know. Yes, you will say “it’s because of what he knows and influence so he deserves it” but that is the very point I’m making. He profits from a job that you and I pay him to do! While he then does not do the job WE wish him to do but that which his circles of influence want done. Is it so hard to understand how this corrupt system works?

Let’s take Damian Green as another example: Look at the month by month payments from South East Water for sums of £2083.33 precisely, each time for 14 hours work each month. Think about it. This suggests that he is doing SOMETHING for South East Water EVERY SINGLE MONTH which takes exactly 14 hours each and ever time. Now you tell me what that could possibly be! The details just goes up to 2011. Perhaps because iPSA took over the management of such info (and do not seem too good in presenting it at all since there is nothing I can see on it from Damian).

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=10241

Now, you can look up Southern Water or South East Water and Damian Green and you will see the companies mentioning his name as an MP who is “very happy” with their performance. What neither one says is that Damian Green is PAID by them! While, again, Green has been getting these payments while being either a front bench or back bench MP making, these days, about £66K a year. ” Compare that with the situation of the archetypal backbencher on his/her £66k salary.” http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jameskirkup/100224170/mps-pay-the-gap-between-leaders-and-backbenchers-could-widen-again/

What makes it all worse is that these goons don’t give a goddamned shit about any of you (or us). “They work for you” indeed! Don’t make me laugh!

Get this into your head: YOU have paid the salary of a man (in the case of Clarke for his entire career in politics but, generally, for them all) to learn and have knowledge about things such as upcoming legislation, economies worldwide and everything in between due to the position we expect him to fill and the job we expect him to do, but he is SELF EMPLOYED. He has then taken all of that knowledge of past AND future and used it (many many times against us) to fill his own private wallet! He then also speaks at engagements and also at SECRET Bilderberg meetings and Chatham House where and when POLICY is made and he and all who attend, while such policy is hidden from you and I based upon “Public Interest” (but you and I are NOT “the public” as I hope you are well aware), then make investments where and how they know of the legislation which is in the works and how it will impact an economy, industry or entire nation. Yet, once again, these people are PRIVATE, SELF EMPLOYED INDIVIDUALS!

3. MP’s pensions:

This is an article from the Telegraph –

Sophie Jamieson

3:12PM GMT 12 Dec 2013

 The chair of the independent body that regulates MPs’ pay has defended the recommendation to raise MPs’ salary by 11 per cent.

Sir Ian Kennedy said that the proposals were the result of an extensive 18 month study and that Ipsa was “playing catch-up with decades of not coming to terms with the fact that MPs’ salary has not kept up with recommendation after recommendation.”

The package includes a reduction in pensions, an end to “golden goodbyes” and a cutback to expenses.

“The overall package will not cost the taxpayer a penny more” and is “appropriate for a modern democracy,” Sir Ian said.

HOW, may I ask, is it possible for a NON EMPLOYED BY TREASURY OR ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT and SELF EMPLOYED PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL, to be provided with a PENSION? If one is self employed one particularly takes care of their own private pension arrangements. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

Now, I’m sure there are many other issues with this that I haven’t even thought of (yet) BUT, here’s the big point: When it comes to such “extra curricular activities” by these PRIVATE individuals who are contracting out their services to Her Majesty as he government and Parliament, they can contract themselves out to any and everyone because they are not EMPLOYEES of the Crown. They are SELF EMPLOYED. As such, they can take on any work for anyone they wish and they all do so they shall all support one another doing it! Further, it explains, in part, how Ken Clarke and Osborne, etc etc, can attend Bilderberg and other such subversive groups in a “PRIVATE CAPACITY” because, in essence, that is what they are even as they work for the Government. They are NOT employed by the government or treasury. They are PRIVATE CONTRACTORS!

 

As Tony Benn stated “Who and what is ‘The Crown'”? We have no clue. Well we do but it is not even understood fully and transparently by our so called Parliamentary representatives!

I’ll tell you what it is though: It is a private gang and mafia. That is precisely what it is and always has been.

Tony Benn Crown

Here we are, a “Nation” who are expected to be “patriotic” (I never would be) and yet all those who are don’t even have a bloody clue who governs them!

We don’t know who or what this “Crown” is which prosecutes us or, if a military person, they do not know who/what they fight for.

We cannot even ask the question and why? Because this very “animal” states itself, unilaterally, that it is protected under the “Official Secrets Act”.

Well OF COURSE a fucking MAFIA would protect its own identity! That is what they DO!

Please! Is it really just me or do you get pissed off with the majority of people’s idiocy and apathy and ignorance and carelessness?

And then do you get further pissed off when they COMPLAIN?!

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  1. David said, on March 6, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    Your posts leave the mind boggling earthling…thank you very much for posting, even if I don’t comment often.

  2. Gazz said, on March 7, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Marvellous Observations Lad

  3. Gazz said, on March 7, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    There’s a song in there somewhere 🙂

    • spartacus said, on March 7, 2014 at 3:32 pm

      AYE, Money money money. by Abba. They get that song, all we get is My old man’s a dustman.

      • cheryl Monti said, on March 8, 2014 at 9:41 am

        That one was funny, thanks for the laugh, it’s just what I needed. I’m getting the tain today and I’m getting myself very worked up but I’m going to push through as I so much want to see my granddaughter, Thought I’d just check out the comments and thanks Spartacus, all we get is My old man’s a dustman. Hahaha really funny that one, I’m still laughing. Oh thanks so much. Best to not take things too seriously. Hahaha, I;m still laughing, I used to sing that song when I was a kid in tap dancing school.

        • spartacus said, on March 8, 2014 at 2:02 pm

          Hi Cheryl hope the little one is doing well. People have told me all my life that i would laugh if my a**e was on fire. Even my GP and therapists have commented that for someone with my depression and anxiety problems. They reckon it is my strong spirit. It does’nt feel like that sometimes i can tell you.
          Anyway keep on laughing and singing and just think of your beautiful grandaughter at the end of the train journey.
          LOL. And this one does mean lots of love. hehe.

  4. spartacus said, on March 7, 2014 at 3:25 pm

    The whole thing about us all having to even have an MP is freaking ridiculous when you think about it. Even more so when you finally learn they are there for themselves and the highest bidder, not us, and how useless and innefective they all are at helping their constituents.
    How did they come to exist in the first place, and when was the idea introduced, and by whom? This may sound daft but i have never really studied exactly how all this sham started.
    I know we live in a pretend democracy, in which the MPs pretend to represent us.
    Why the f**k do we need MPs? We obviously dont. It’s way past time we told them.

  5. spartacus said, on March 7, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    Earthling, off topic i know, but i was wondering again lol. You put out all this brilliant and solid information. You also have a ton of info in your archives and you have took huge ammounts of time to thoroughly research all this information, yet you dont ask for a penny to run this site, while others do.
    How can you do it free but they cant?

    • earthlinggb said, on March 7, 2014 at 4:22 pm

      Because I never intended it to be a “career” nor did I ever consider trying to make the world better and imparting information being a way of making an income.
      Let’s just say I have been very lucky in my past career but now that luck is coming to a crashing end unless a miracle is on the horizon.

      • spartacus said, on March 7, 2014 at 5:09 pm

        Dont wait on luck or miracles mate. What i see with you is one hell of sharp cookie, a determined one at that. Have you ever thought of starting your own business, you certainly seem to have the intelligence and tenacity as well as the financial acumen for it.
        Obviously i cant know all your private details, but i would say bollocks to your luck coming to an end, and tell you to forget about it and leave it behind you and just get up off the floor, dust yourself down and get back in the fight. Start all over again, in a new direction perhaps.
        You dont have to post this mate.

  6. Guido said, on March 8, 2014 at 2:48 am

    You could always become a self employed government minister and contract out your services to the crown.
    Oh no, you can’t can you? because it is a closed shop!
    First you would have to become an mp. and that is a closed shop in itself.
    First you have to join a “party” and toe the line and brown nose the party faithfull just to get selected, before you can even think of contesting a seat in front of the people you will end up not representing!
    The whole political scene is a charade to give an air of responsibility to minds that have been twisted and poisoned to further the agenda.
    Not only that but if by some chance you did work your way up the ladder, those party political gatekeepers would make sure you had some skeletons in your closet just in case you had a “change of heart” later on. At every level, before you ascended to the next, they would manufacture and collect more and more dirt on you before you were allowed to proceed.
    The whole system is riddled with self serving scumbags who think they are being really clever and doing well for themselves. In reality, as soon as they put themselves forward they are screwed, even if they started off with the right intentions they are on a slippery slope from the start. Just wait till it finally dawns on them how much of their souls they have sold to get where they are!

    By the way, the reason you are not allowed to know who the crown is is because it is the crown of satan.
    “The devil’s greatest victory was to convince people he doesn’t exist.”
    It is written in various places that he is in charge down here but not for much longer. It is always darkest just before dawn.

    • spartacus said, on March 8, 2014 at 5:01 pm

      Guido, that bit about the crown being the crown of satan is very interesting.I have never thought of that before thanks. I am not a religious man but i have studied the bible, and it does say that he is running things on earth, and things will get worse because he knows he does’nt have much longer before he gets his ass kicked.
      When i look at the world it does seem to fit that scenario, but then again we could just be run by a bunch of psycho’s, now we all know for sure that is true,
      My questions would be, Are these mad men freelance? belong to different man made mafias/governments?or one TRIBE. or are they satans boys?

  7. spartacus said, on March 8, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    earthling, i am curious to know your view on the government, it’s ministers and the crown. Yes i know what you think of them, but do you think they are 100% human and do things off their own back? Or do you suspect they are controlled by demonic forces.
    I do realize this is a bit of a strange question btw. Feel free to reply with HOW THE F**K WOULD I KNOW? but i’m asking what you suspect not know.

    • earthlinggb said, on March 8, 2014 at 6:17 pm

      How the f**k would I know? LOL
      Yes I think they’re 100% human (although, these days, I keep an open mind about things to a CERTAIN extent). I think the SYSTEM we have (monetary and legal) is “demonic” in the sense that I believe it derives from evil. There is no doubt about that in my mind. However I believe that, while evil, it has been created by humans and sustained by humans who have a very different and psychopathic view of humanity and life on this planet than you or I or anyone we know. The politicians etc who support it by way of their involvement, I believe just do so due to their psychopathy and their drive to be powerful/ruthless etc (but that still doesn’t account for their interest in paedophilia so theree is just pure evil in there). I was raised a catholic and my family are catholics to this day but they have their questions surrounding it and their issues. I fell by the wayside as a teenager. It just didn’t capture my interest. So I don’t view myself as a christian (or anything) BUT, I have to admit, his teachings (or whoever it was who wrote these gospels) are compelling and there is a goodness in the New Testament as opposed to the evil which is obvious in the old testament (or “Torah”). So, without making this an essay, I don’t know but there are many aspects of it all which leads to my suspicion there is more to this. Politics does come from religion that is a fact and whoever created this system wanted absolute power over everyone. To want that and to do what this system does to the world’s population IS pure evil so, whatever “religion” it is which is, ultimately, responsible for this living nightmare, is a religion of pure evil. They do hate christianity however, that is obvious so it makes me wonder why? They do seem afraid of christianity more than any other religion. If there were such a person as Jesus, I would follow him. I’m just not convinced. It may be that christianity was the creation of some good forces. If “God” is omnipotent, then “God” would have stopped this a long time ago. Why would a benign “God” wish to continue this? I don’t listen to this “He gave us freewill” crap. He would know what that freewill led to and he would know that the vast majority of people, if they understood what they lived in, would not wish to control their brother. So his “freewill” simply allows a small percentage of the entire world’s population to get away scot free.

      • spartacus said, on March 8, 2014 at 7:20 pm

        Thanks for the reply.

        • earthlinggb said, on March 8, 2014 at 7:28 pm

          Did it make any sense? lol

          • spartacus said, on March 9, 2014 at 6:01 pm

            Dont know mate, i only read to”Yes i think they are 100% human”. Only kidding. i read it and yes it made sense.
            The difference between the old and the new testament is staggering. About the “free will crap”? have you ever thought that if this god does exist, he may not be the brightest bulb in the house, as gods go. A bit overated like, you know, Tim nice but dim sort of thing. Just a thought. This planet could be his first gig.


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