TPV: Place your bets!

Posted in Media by earthling on January 27, 2014

TPV 7 days

Only 7 days to gogo so place your bets now:

TPV meets its £400K target – 10/1

TPV doesn’t meet £400K target – Can you get worse than “Evens”? I’ve never betted so I don’t know. Ignorant eh? 😉

TPV remains on air ongoing based on us now being told that there were sufficiently large donations coming in all the time since the telethon etc – 5/1

TPV goes off air for good – 5/1

TPV crosses the £100k mark – 2/1

TPV crosses the £200K mark – 7/1

TPV state they are staying on air because Icke and Tabatabai have invested their own companies’ total of about £260K at the bank or a portion thereof – 4/1 (if so, the reality of that – 100/1)

TPV stay on air because, all of a sudden, there are sponsors and advertisers coming in and/or they took a loan to get them over the hump – 10/1

I’m sure there are a myriad of other stories which they can think up of course.

Now, you may not believe this but I’m sort of sad that there is the possibility of such a potentially excellent vehicle for truth going off the air but I am. I’m just not sad that it would be David Icke’s and Sean Tabatabai’s et al. Why? Because its goal is not for that purpose. I only wish it had been.

Anyhow, place your bets or, if you can think of other little excuses for them, lay them on me! 🙂

Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. I still wonder what that little boy has on the "great guru of truth". Indeed there is a smell of fish on that bus you were on Sean. Emanating from you bud! Extremely fishy!

Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. I still wonder what that little boy has on the “great guru of truth”. Indeed there is a smell of fish on that bus you were on Sean. Emanating from you bud! Extremely fishy!


Pure guess on my part but I’d say illegitimate son (assuming nothing more sinister). Total assumption with no basis on my part though. However, in this day and age, I can’t see the need to keep something like that secret, so then possibly not. There’s something though, right?

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  1. stephen said, on January 27, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    I will have £100 on tpv meeting it’s £400k please Earthling.

    Quite simply, by Hook or by Crook Icke needs to be seen to be a messianic miracle worker.

    I would like to cover that though please Earthling with £20 on Icke & Sean announcing they invested their own money. Can i have 100/1 on that one please?

  2. stephen said, on January 27, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    I heard Sean is of Islamic descent.
    ADL is an Islamic title given to a Muslim of great importance and notable worth, apparently.
    Sean is also bi-sexual and has relationships with men.

    Ever since i came across Dicky my first impression was that he is a closet case.

    PS PS
    I have nothing against gays.

    • Hector Vector said, on January 27, 2014 at 6:35 pm

      Why is it significant, then?

      • stephen said, on January 27, 2014 at 11:45 pm

        Sorry Hector, i was merely implying that i think it is more likely they could be sexually intimate with eachother more than related like father and son.
        But complete speculation on my part and absolutely nothing against gays either.

        • Will said, on January 28, 2014 at 6:53 am

          It is more likely that Sean owes his special relationship to Icke through both his sycophancy and his willingness, amply and repeatedly demonstrated in his role as Censor-in-Chief on the David Icke Forum, to aggressively defend the the fragile ego and economic interests of the Messiah of Medina from the scourge of disbelief.

          As I’ve said before if we see Icke as a would-be L.Ron Hubbard, then Sean is his David Miscavige, the man who currently runs the Church of Scientology.

          • Babs said, on January 28, 2014 at 8:10 am

            Well after all Sean is the keeper of the gate to the ethos don’t forget…………….;)

          • earthlinggb said, on January 28, 2014 at 12:46 pm

            You think he’s just starstruck then Will? I mean what would make a boy so “adhered” to everything the unwise one says and writes? Tabatabai knows it’s shit too (Spartacus, Godhead, reptiles, moon, saturn etc). What brought them together in the first place for Tabataboy to then attach himself so tightly to Icke like a child to a teet.

            • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 2:04 pm

              Pure speculation. I think the connection was probably through their bbc affiliation and with Seans radical fundamentalist ideology and Ickes willingness to sell any propaganda he can, they got on like a house on fire.
              A complete guess, of course.

            • Will said, on January 29, 2014 at 7:32 pm

              Earthling, I never said Sean was a believer. Icke might think that he is, but we cannot be completely certain that icke really believes half of the nonsense he puts out either (consider his evasiveness on the reptilian issue when questioned by MSM journalists, he knows it is indefensible, but it sells books and seats). Anyway, a sycophant does not have to believe, they just have to be prepared to do whatever it takes to earn the trust of person whose favor and patronage they are seeking by being outwardly utterly convinced of the brilliance of their target. Sean appears to have done a sterling job in this regard making himself indispensable to the Messiah from Medina. But this is all speculation until someone manages to score an interview with TPV’s “Guardian of the Ethos” and asks the right questions.

              • earthlinggb said, on January 29, 2014 at 7:43 pm

                Will, neither of them believe the trash. THAT is what Combataboy guards. The “ethos” is “take them for all they’re worth and keep feeding them shit which sounds even slightly plausible”. Little Combataboy has happily enjoyed the gravy train. The question for me is where they picked each other up? At a gay bar?

                • Will said, on January 30, 2014 at 12:57 am

                  Or at one of his talks? That is where Icke met the unfortunate mr Adams.

    • mimi said, on January 27, 2014 at 7:54 pm

      This is from Wikipedia, I don’t usually it unless for general quick searches.

      Adl (Arabic: عدل‎, ʻAdl) is an Arabic word meaning ‘justice’. In Islamic theology, Adl refers to God’s divine justice.

      Adl is another word for divine justice in Islam. The conception of this term varies between Shiites and Sunnis. Shiites tend to believe that God is rationally just, that men inherently know the difference between good and evil, and that we have complete free will. Sunnis, in contrast, believe that God is necessarily just, that revelation, the Qur’an, is the only way to know good and evil, and that men are afforded some volition within predestination.[citation needed]

      The origin of the modern family name Adl is from the titles of nobility given to Iranian jurists at the end of the 19th century, that were related by family ties. Notably, these jurists included Hajj Mirza Hossein (also known as Hossein Shah) whose title was Adl-ol-molk (Justice of the Kingdom), Seid Mirza Ebrahim Khalil whose title was Rokn-ol-edaleh (Pillar of Justice), and Mirza Mostafa Khan Adl whose title was Mansoor-ol-saltaneh (the Victorious of the Empire). The latter, Mostafa Adl, drafted Iran’s modern civil code (hoghough-e-madani) shortly after the Iranian Revolution of 1903–1905, which was enacted by the then parliament and is still being used today by the present regime.[citation needed]


      Last name origin & meaning:

      Muslim: Arabic family name (Tabātabā’ī), an adjectival form denoting descent from someone called Tabātabā, in particular Ismā‛īl bin Ibrahim Tabātabā, a great-grandson of Khalif ‛Alī, fourth and last of the ‘rightly guided’ khalifs (see Ali).

      Read more on FamilyEducation:

      Tabatabaei (Persian: طباطبایی, Ṭabāṭabā’ī) (also spelled Tabatabai, Tabatabaee, Tabatabaie) is a surname of Arabic and Persian origin. It is one of many families from the descendants of Hasan ibn Ali, the second imam of Shias, populated mostly in Iran, but also in Iraq and Lebanon.

      Just looking in general under name ‘Tabatabai’ found this video.

      • stephen said, on January 27, 2014 at 11:49 pm

        So we can safely conclude that Sean is from an elitest background of the Muslim brotherhood?
        Or perhaps ELITEST would suffice?

        • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 12:00 am

          I wonder then if he is linked to Al-qaeda who Icke believes is actually CIA. CIA say Al-qaeda did the bombings while Icke says CIA did the bombings and all the time Icke has a right-hand man with an Islamic title which could connect to fundamentalism.

          • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 12:01 am

            TPV indeed.

            • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 12:06 am

              Could mr Islam be……………..Sean?
              Isn’t this what al-qaeda claim to be doing? rising up for the people? Did Anjem Choudary not get invited onto TPV, or am i imagining it?

  3. stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 12:15 am

    Here in the link below is a letter written between Osama Bin Laden and a Muslim cleric of the second name Tabatabai

    • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 12:29 am

      My God! this is beyond doubt. Icke is a CIA front licensed by the government. Either that or he is a paid al-qaeda shill infiltrating our government.
      Either way i am done with the truth movement. cya

      • Will said, on January 28, 2014 at 7:11 am

        My God! You came to the conclusion that Icke is a “CIA front” because his underling and TPV co- founder shares the same name as a Kuwaiti MP who praised UBL? Care to substantiate your suspicions further before one writes them off as over enthusiastic application of the practice of guilt-by-association?

        • earthlinggb said, on January 28, 2014 at 12:48 pm

          My concern is his association/connections with a couple of obvious globalist institutions.

        • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 2:13 pm

          Yes sorry Will.

          Total speculation on my part.

          Absolutely nothing to suggest that a young man with his own media network dedicated to exposing Western ideologies with a title given to elite members of Muslim brotherhood and shares the same second name as a member of the Muslim brotherhood that shared written communication with Bin Laden telling him how great jihadists are. Add to that Icke says himself al-qaeda is a CIA front.

          But yes, pure speculaton, sorry.

          • Will said, on January 29, 2014 at 10:06 am

            Stephen, the sarcasm is cute but you still not positively established that Sean, for all his sins, has any links with the UBL-praising Kuwaiti MP other than sharing the same last name. Do they have coffee together when the MP in question visits London? Does any money or instruction change hands? Or do they know the same people even if they barely know each other? Nor have you established that the same Kuwaiti MP in question has any actual links with AQ or the late UBL. One might assume his praise puts him in that camp, but it might help to substantiate it further.

            And you know, even if Sean and the MP are related, however close or distant it is not all uncommon for people to hold different points of view (are you on intimate terms with everyone that shares your surname and in complete agreement on all issues?). In this case Sean slavishly follows Icke who believes AQ is a CIA front while a potential relation of his seems to think they are the real deal.

            But in the meantime feel free to speculate….

  4. mimi said, on January 28, 2014 at 3:32 am

    Thanks for the link Stephen to the letter from Kuwaiti MP Dr. Walid Al Tabatabai to Osama Bin Laden published in the Kuwaiti daily Al-Watan in 2007. I have to say the letter that Al Tabatabai wrote to Osama Bin Laden is filled with lies and what I would call propaganda so either he at the time of that writing was very naïve and out of the loop and yet still giving Osama Bin Laden respect by referring to him as ‘Sheikh’ or he knows perfectly well the truth and is spreading misinformation. My comments will appear in brackets.


    Al-Tabatai wrote: “…The author of this letter (i.e. Tabatabai) is one of those who appreciate and honor the jihad that you carried out during the liberation of Afghanistan from the Soviet Russian invasion…

    (Though Osama did receive backing in funding and arms from the CIA and he did fight against the Soviet Russian Invasion it was much more complicated than that. If there was one man who was actually responsible for the overthrow and driving out of the Russians in Afghanistan it was Ahmed Shah Massoud imv, a man who was assassinated two days before September 11, 2001 in New York and he was no friend of Osama Bin Laden).

    It is worth watching this whole documentary and to do more research on this. I will post two parts here.

    Part 1

    Part 5

    Al Tabatabai:
    Your most recent speech, which the media broadcast several days ago, aroused in me many questions regarding its negative impact, considering that it was lacking a political dimension.

    (Osama Bin Laden was not alive when Al Tabatabai wrote this letter, he had died many years before in 2001 of natural causes in the mountainous region of the Tora Bora mountains, this was confirmed by intelligence forces in Pakistan, high level American Military Personnel in Afghanistan and others were would be in a position to know. I give no credence to mainstream outlet Fox News but they actually got it right in this report dated December 26, 2001, it was backed up by legitimate sources at the time.)


    December 26, 2001

    Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

    “The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead,” the source said.

    Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

    About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some “Taliban friends,” attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the “great leader.”

    Al Tabatabai:
    Unfortunately, the speech was like a lifesaver to the American president, who is dealing with great internal pressures to withdraw his forces from Iraq… Thus, commentators said that Bush found what he wished for in this speech, since [bin Laden] provided [Bush] with clear-cut evidence of [the need] to restrain his adversaries: That is, the continued presence of the U.S. military in Iraq is for the sake of defending the entire American people from the ongoing Al-Qaeda threat… Your speech damaged all the efforts underway to speed up the American exit from Iraq – unless you are not interested in this!!

    (Osama Bin Laden never admitted any responsibility for the ‘attacks’ on September 11th before his death in December of 2001, if he had been in any way responsible then in all likelihood he would have admitted it, instead he suggested that Americans look to their own government to see who was responsible. Those ‘speeches’ that appeared on television in the ensuing years were fake, conjured up by intelligence forces)

    I am not going to go through the rest of Al Tabatabai’s letter to ‘Osama Bin Laden’ in 2007 but it is a font of disinformation and there was a considerable amount of deception going on in Kuwait as well in the days leading up to the invasion of Kuwait by Iraqi forces including the story about the incubator babies.

    • mimi said, on January 28, 2014 at 5:16 am

      I just wanted to make it clear that Ahmed Shah Massoud and the Northern Alliance fought against Osama Bin Laden and his fellow Saudi backed Wahabi extremists including the Taliban and Pakistani forces backed by the West in order to try and free Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden was no hero, he helped destroy the Afghan people, that Al Tabatabai gives him any honour is shameful even though in reality Osama was already long dead and had nothing that I can ascertain to do with the attacks on September 11th 2001 which in my view was pulled off by neocon forces inside the American government with Mossad and Zionist forces involvement..

      Also Massoud warned the United Nations that there was going to be a terror attack against the United States, unfortunately he was murdered in Afghanistan two days before September 11th 2001 when during a televised interview in the mountains the television camera exploded (there was a bomb in the television camera) and he was killed in what was a suicide attack (the two journalists ‘interviewing’ him were not really journalists and went there with the intent of killing him along with themselves).

      • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 9:46 am

        I would argue that Osama bin laden did have involvement with 9/11.
        I come to this conclusion using Ickes evidence alone.
        Icke uses a photo of the Bin ladens meeting members of the Carlyle group to prove that the members of the Carlyle group knew Osama bin laden thus did 9/11 and also manages to pardon Bin-laden of any wrong doing and completely unconnected. But how is he unconnected? has he forgot about the photo which connects him to the Carlyle group?
        Icke is clearly being biased.

      • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 10:38 am

        Somethings from here i would also like to know.
        Ahmed Shah Massoud got murdered. I assume this is hard fact.
        It get’s slightly more sketchy when you say ‘he warned the UN’ of a terror attack. This is impossible because the UN is just a word description and it is completely useless warning a word description of anything.
        The people that make up the UN are a relatively large group and i don’t believe he reported this to the group as a whole? Just like if i phone the police and speak to an operative and they send out an officer and the officer ridicules my information and dismisses me, does this mean “the police” dismissed my claim or an officer dismissed my claim? “UN” “POLICE” are large organisations.
        What needs to be established is “who” within the UN did Massoud speak to?
        You say Massoud warned them of a terrorist atrocity. Again, who is them? and what exactly did he warn them of? what evidence did he present? I am sure “the police” and “the un” have people telling them things everyday.
        Now you say two suicide bombers killed Massoud. Do you have any evidence to say they where sent by the UN or is this just assumption based upon sketchy information?
        And also like i said. The “UN” did no such thing. What you need to establish is “who” within the UN?

        • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 10:47 am

          Also mimi.

          If Ahmed Massoud was a reliable witness obviously he was a man that knew a lot.
          Why would a man that knows a lot report what the UN are about to do to the UN?

          • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 11:06 am

            Infact, unless you can provide me with further evidence i shall accept the fact Massoud was a man of great insider knowledge and obviously this man himself did not believe the members of the UN to be in on the plot.
            Also there is various ways he could have gotten murdered. Obviously if he was grassing to the UN then he was probably involved in an ongoing fued with the people he was grassing.
            There is nothing but circumstancial evidence here.
            But one things for sure. Massoud was not grassing the UN to the UN.

            • mimi said, on January 28, 2014 at 2:11 pm

              Massoud was definitely murdered as stated, I think it would be easier to understand what I am saying concerning Massoud if you watch the documentary I posted but to watch it in full, it is a lot to try and go into in a few short words. I believe Massoud was murdered in part because had he lived and succeeded he may very well have brought stability to Afghanistan and that was not part of the plan at the time, Massoud was not a puppet. Sorry, I just remembered my post with the links to the documentary is waiting moderation so I shall post link to first part of the Ahmed Shah Massoud documentary here..

              It is still murky as to who exactly ordered the hit on Massoud, there were some charges and convictions concerning who provided the documents etc.. to the two suicide bombers posing as journalists.


              A court in Paris has found four men guilty of offering logistical support to the killers of Afghan resistance leader Ahmed Shah Massoud.

              The four Islamic militants, who faced up to 10 years in jail, were sentenced to between two and seven years.

              Mr Massoud, a leading anti-Taleban fighter, was blown up in 2001, two days before the 9/11 terror attacks, by two Tunisian men posing as journalists.

              Those convicted, all of north African origin, were seized by French police who traced passports found on Mr Massoud’s killers to a Brussels-based militant cell run by Tarek Maaroufi.

              Maaroufi was sentenced to six years in prison by a court in Brussels in 2003.

              Mr Massoud was a leading general in Afghanistan’s anti-Taleban Northern Alliance.

              In Paris on Tuesday Adel Tebourski, 41, was handed a six-year sentence after admitting he was a member of an Islamist cell linked to one of the Tunisian killers.

              He was accused of changing 30,000 French francs (4,500 euros) into almost $6,000 for Dahmane Abd al-Sattar before he set out on his suicide mission in May 2000.

              Frenchman Yousef el-Aouni, 31, received a two-year sentence, while Abderahmane Ameroud, a 27-year-old Algerian, was handed the longest sentence, of seven years.

              Another man, 37-year-old Mehrez Azouz, was imprisoned for five years.

              A fifth suspect, Khellaf Hammam, 37, was convicted of helping organise paramilitary training for French-based Islamic militants, and was imprisoned for two years.

              Two others, Ibrahim Ketta, 38, and Azdine Sayeh, 32, were acquitted.


              take of it what you will, there are still many unanswered questions.

              It is true that Bush snr and members of the Carlyle Group were meeting with members of the Bin Laden family in NY during the time of the 911 attacks, it is also true that the Bin Laden’s were allowed to fly out of the country (the U.S.) soon after even though all other aircraft were grounded. The Bin Laden’s were protected by the Carlyle Group and the neocons in the American administration.

              it is also true that Saudi based Wahhabi extremists and others are being used by Israel (with Saudi consent), albeit unknowingly, for their own purposes as is the case now in Syria, the U.S. and Saudi based Wahhabi extremists and others (foreign mercenaries) are also behind many of the atrocities going on now in Syria.

              There were seemingly authentic reports that Osama Bin Laden was in a Dubai hospital shortly before the 911 attacks getting dialysis, and I must say he was very ill, he had been in need of dialysis for many years by that time along with living an often physically rough life for someone in his condition. It was reported that while he was in the Dubai hospital getting dialysis shortly before the attacks that he was visited by two CIA agents, the CIA and obviously the American administration knew where Osama Bin Laden was at the time of the 911 attacks, of that I am convinced.

              Osama I believe was used as a boogie man to help instigate the ‘War on Terror’, he became the face of ‘the enemy’ in order for the American neocons (Saudi arse lickers and vice versa) and Israel to instigate a plan that had been in the making for many years as hinted at in the Project for a New American Century in which they wrote of a ‘New Pearl Harbour’ being needed to get the American people on board with their plans to invade Iraq and the greater middle east and there is no denying when looking at the greater picture and strong circumstantial evidence that the Mossad were involved up to their asses in the events of that day and I would not be surprised if the Saudis also had foreknowledge.

              It is such a tangled web it is at times difficult to put the pieces together.

              • mimi said, on January 28, 2014 at 2:44 pm

                Israel reveals it has entered a coalition with Sunni Alliance to control the region.

                • mimi said, on January 28, 2014 at 2:47 pm

                  My apologies for heading is into off-topic territory.

                  • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 2:59 pm

                    Well i have changed my bet to “TPV stay on air because, all of a sudden, there are sponsors and advertisers coming in and/ADL-tabatabai took a loan from AL-tabatabai to get them over the hump – 10/1”

                  • earthlinggb said, on January 28, 2014 at 3:03 pm

                    Head anything anywhere you wish Mimi.

                • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 2:55 pm

                  This all started with the death of Mohammed back in the 600’s long before the CIA ever existed.

              • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 3:29 pm


                PNAC was not a secret. It was available for all public that where interested and PNAC says nothing of them ever even suggesting a new-pearl harbour. It is purely down to interpretation and taking a single quote well out of context while removing the rest of the sentence.

                Here, is what PNAC actually says
                “Section V of Rebuilding America’s Defenses, entitled “Creating Tomorrow’s Dominant Force”, includes the sentence: “Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor”.

                Also Icke throws in the argument of the neo-cons into the same pot as the illuminati agenda which are ideologies with similarities but have some fundamental differences so the two are not compatible.

                • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 3:36 pm

                  The neo-cons quite simply would never in a million years admit to planning a terror atrocity in a written public report.
                  They are not that stupid and they never even suggested anything of the like.

                  Having said that. George Tenet has questions to answer.

                • earthlinggb said, on January 28, 2014 at 4:18 pm

                  Stephen, to me it’s quite obvious what that PNAC document and specific quote were saying. Add it to Brzezinski’s comment in “The Grand Chessboard” re America being too democratic at home to support being autocratic abroad such that it needs an outside massive threat to change that popularly held ideology (not his exact words but what he said/meant), then add that to words spoken by Paul Wolfowitz and others of the neocon fold at different times both before and after the 9/11 event, and it’s as clear as day it was an agenda and not just a “coincidence”. What are the fundamental differences you see in the neocon and illuminati agenda? Because I’ve noticed them myself while I also can see a certain amount of “smokescreen” associated with it. Have a look at this video for example:

                  • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 4:49 pm

                    Even so Earthling, i don’t think it was ever a secret USA wanted to rule the world. George Tenet who was brought into prevent a new pearl harbor may have actually got the freedom of America for making it happen.
                    But this does not validate Ickes version of evidents and nor does it warrant him gaining a monopoly on it and if all TPV is going to do is present a whole load of quotes from books and documents and tons of circumstantial evidence that requires the imagination to fill in the blanks then it is a complete waste of time bringing it to public attention.
                    The public know USA fancy themselves as the worlds police force already.
                    But if they want something done about it then they better get some real evidence and start explaining what really happened. If they cannot do this then obviously barring a few quotes here and there they know no more than anyone else.

                    • stephen said, on January 28, 2014 at 5:01 pm

                      We can also hear the likes of Anjem Choudary making the same noises as the neocons regarding shia law becoming the one world law so we clearly have two sides tangoing.
                      Apparently though Anjem Choudary is an illuminati puppet.
                      Notice though how Tenetis not a jihadist puppet despite having Islamic descendants. Why? because it does not fit with the picture the imagination wishes to paint.

  5. Faro said, on January 28, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    My money is still on a ‘mystery backer’. The ‘hero’s’ journey continues through adversity.

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