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David Icke: HELP! HELP! The Reigstad’s on fire!!

Posted in Media by Earthling on January 18, 2014

Communists have a new name: “Mongs”, “Idiots”, “anti-Icke activists”, or simply jet people who might even watch TPV but don’t donate to it.

A quick aside Davey: How many people watch BBC but won’t pay their TV licence? You’d support that wouldn’t you? Ah but you can’t state that otherwise OFCOM and the establishment would attack you and TPV. Oh but, wait a minute, no they wouldn’t because you have absolutely nothing to do with TPV according to OFCOM! So yeah, you can say it. Ah but then, it wouldn’t be politically incorrect and could get you into trouble somehow. I bet you pay your BBC licence though eh Dave? Can’t miss Grandstand! Or can you stand to watch it considering they wouldn’t give you the prime slot on it but just gave you a table and a few coloured balls to whisper your comments about. I guess that’s the closest thing you’ve ever got to having balls Dave but, today, you’re just a bit “snookered” eh? How the hell do you continue TPV IF you don’t reach that magical figure, and continue to, without giving the game away that there are other backers? Hmmm… conundrum! Or will they undisclosed sums just keep coming in? There is no way you’re going to get anywhere near the sponsorship and advertising you were hoping for and you and the gang just haven’t go the foggiest of how to generate income from licensing do you? And you just wouldn’t listen would you? The potential is all there just waiting on you tapping into it but it’s just too difficult for you when you think you can just click your fingers and get money for nothing and the content for free.

Anyhow, back to the point: I love this post Davey. It puts me in tears of laughter…

False flag Icke

 

Corporations? Hmmm…. isn’t TPV a Private corporation? I do believe it is! Now, in the land of Private corporations, as you well know Davey, they tend to create “scarcity” as well as use other tactics to win business and to stop “churn” or lose customers. If income isn’t coming in to the level required, they will do just about anything to find it. The thing is Davey, they tend, generally, to have various sources of income or, at least, they develop a market based upon the 80/20 rule if they possibly can. A company with only one customer relies on that customer 100% otherwise it goes out of business. That’s why most companies try to build that varied and substantial customer base (different income generating sources in effect). Whereas you have had a “business plan” (none at all actually – just a wish and belief and I’ve seen companies do precisely the same and it’s pathetic) that was “We’ll just keep asking the public for donations”. You’ve said it all along in your videos and even when I was there in TPV for that very short spell – the public’s donations will be the key (and yet it did not and does not have to be).

If anyone had asked you at the time last year: “What happens if they don’t donate enough Davey?” you would ignore them. But if you had given an answer, I wonder if it would have been “then I’ll get on Skype and, with sheer disdain, talk to my audience and tell them they are idiots and stupid/dumb, selfish, uncaring, will scream crying when the boots come to their door and every other fear tactic I can use to get the working class scum to donate”. No, I doubt you would have said you’d do that Davey but, strangely, it is exactly what you have done. “I’ll also have my son, Gareth, call a mass of people “mongs” and any other descriptive word to try and make them feel inferior (because that is what anyone is who doest do as the great one demands of them – this is evangelism 101). Man, I tip my hat to you once again because you certainly do realise and know what your audience is composed of because it’s working for you.

What else did you have planned if it didn’t work out donations wise? Ahh! the “IFF”: The Icke False Flag. Brilliant Davey, exceptional. How could ANYONE even consider that you, yourself would instigate such (something you have studied for the decades you have) when you point the finger at every other person or organisation who have used the strategy? No-one would possibly believe it would they Davey? They believe the “evil people” are attacking you and yet your entire station has not broadcast one iota of information which is not already out there in internet land via youtube, blogs or even mainstream. But the “evil empire” will attack “David Icke” while that same evil empire hands you and TPV a “licence to shill” on a plate. Aye Davey, you’re a real threat to the powers that be and your audience are only too happy to swallow that absolute shit! 🙂

TPV hacked

 

You know what else the IFF does for you though? It allows you to cloak the fact that the incompetence in the entire organisation is outstanding while you all try to fix the myriad of failures and problems that you have.

While I’m sure there will be those volunteers in TPV who, while they would wish to give their all and do a good job doing whatever it is they are doing, Sean and Deanna etc will just not like them personally or think that they are hopeless or, perhaps, they may just feel they are not getting treated like “gods” by them, so they’ll want, at this point, to get rid of some people. That was always going to happen but there was no way your volunteers would have ever listened if one had told them that.

“Cognitive dissonance” is actually, ironically, what keeps you and TPV alive Davey. Your entire audience has it. Right down to them donating their money to you through BARCLAY’s BANK! It is bloody incredible what you get away with Davey. One can only stand in awe. Not at you but at the sheer incapacity of your audience. I can say whatever I wish about your audience or anyone. I’m not looking for them to donate money to me. But YOU. You’re an idiot, you really are. You just don’t recognise it due to your arrogance and narcissism.

Donate TPV Barclays

 

There’s a guy by the “name” of Jonb on another forum, which I apologise but the name of the forum escapes me for now, who does great GIFs. I leave you with this one because it really does sum some things up so well.

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  1. Clare said, on January 18, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    Adrenal burnout is an extremely serious condition, from which some people never recover, so please don’t kick a man when he’s down…

    • Crystali said, on January 19, 2014 at 1:06 am

      You know, what you said is true, and I have had that saying buzzing about in my head all evening, kick a man that is already down, and you are right there too.
      The trouble is sometimes people (or person – non corporate 😉 ) see so much wrong they get very deep into it and justify their own actions because they see so blatantly that which is equal to the irony of itself, I do not condone hurting another to such an extent, it does reveal a lot about the people that do it.

      But in all honesty, some people create their own downfall by their very own actions, they could redeem themselves by righting their wrongs and doing what is right by admitting their crimes and pledging and doing what is right to absolve themselves.

      But yes, you are right and it is shameful. The video above is funny in itself and very fitting, I personally will never kick a man that is down, in fact, what we need to do is help him to get back up and hope he sees his own indiscretions. otherwise he will be inviting a kicking so to speak.

      • earthlinggb said, on January 19, 2014 at 1:53 pm

        I’m sorry, but writing a blog pointing out the discrepancies and hypocrisies of a man who just happens to now say he’s ill (and we only have his word for it – so much for his word eh?) is hardly “kicking a man when he’s down”. If Rothschild or Rockefeller etc were ill, do you think people would ignore their crimes and say “Oh I’m going to stop talking about him because he’s just about to kick the bucket”? I think not.
        Sorry but I don’t trust one syllable that this guy utters and I have good reason for that. But “kicking while he is down” is hardly what a blog does. That’s taking things a bit too far and it’s also the sort of political correctness thing again that so many people suffer from. Meanwhile, don’t you think (because I know) there are many people donating to this guy and his venture who are in worse health and financial situations than he? You betcha there is. Does he give a DAMN? You batch have doesn’t! So please, don’t expect an ounce of concern from me. I do not wish anything bad to come of David Icke health wise but I’m certainly as concerned about him as he is of me or anyone else. It’s like this thing with celebrity – a celebrity dies and a country goes into mourning. Your mother dies and does the country do the same? It’s all bullshit.

        • Crystali said, on January 19, 2014 at 3:05 pm

          You have pointed out several times not to knock someone just because they have a different opinion to you, don’t get me wrong, I’m on your side, well I don’t take sides, but you’re smart enough to understand me. Don’t jump on my back because I am not 100% in compliance, where’s the political correctness in that, it’s in there because you chose to see it there and then attack me with it. Do I keep quiet because you don’t like what I say, is that not more of the same shit?
          I am not accusing you strictly of kicking a man when he’s down, you have done a good job of pointing out that which many fail to see, I am talking mainly of the people that agree with you for the sake of it and simply to support you rather than giving him any credit.
          When it comes down to it were all the fucking same doing the same fucking shit and you wonder why the world is comparatively shit with everyone going round in the same old circles.
          Don’t complain to me because I see a little kicking going on, not necessarily from you, but you get the notoriety while you reel in the Icke cast off’s.

          I am only here because you came across as a unique intelligent angle on the mess, I’m still here aren’t I, so don’t get your knickers in a twist with me!
          We all have something of value to sling into the pot, it’s not always going to be on mutual terms, but that’s a fact of life. 😛

          • Crystali said, on January 20, 2014 at 1:16 am

            Who’s that foul mouthed cow… … 😮 LOL.

            Earthling, may I call you Mark… … thanks, I happen to agree with most of everything you say, uncannily in fact. I can’t stand seeing anyone get hurt, especially psychologically and emotionally, or any way, it really bothers me. Maybe that is a form of political connectedness, but it is not intentional, don’t misjudge me with that, it’s most definitely not me.

            I absolutely agree with the celebrity phenomena, it is crazy, really insane that people swoon so much over a bunch of jumped up, self adoring, self worshipping bunch of actors. I see in the paper at work about celebrity deaths and injuries and I think to myself, so what, what the hell have they ever done but portray some very sick writers minds for fame and fortune, I don’t get it. Beside, I don’t have a TV, I walked my talk and ditched it more than a decade ago, I don’t miss it either.

          • earthlinggb said, on January 20, 2014 at 1:47 am

            It must be the way I use words. 🙂 lol I have no twisted knickers. I was just pointing out how I saw things. You’re entirely welcome to give your opinion Crystali. As everyone is. I just see things from a different perspective occasionally. 🙂

    • Will said, on January 19, 2014 at 1:31 am

      Forgive my nitpicking, But “adrenal burnout” or fatigue is not a condition that is recognised by mainstream medicine. If one is a believer in alternative diagnoses, treatments and medicines thane one may choose to disregard that and see Icke’s condition and diagnosis as real. I suspect however that it is just plain old mental and physical exhaustion, a place that Icke has been a number of times before…

      • Clare said, on January 19, 2014 at 3:48 am

        It was from somebody quite high up in the mainstream medical profession who told me about ‘adrenal burnout’, and how devastating to the system it can be. I have a friend who has Morgellons, and I have seen her pull threads from her skin, and the mainstream medical profession doesn’t recognise this either – not openly, anyway. They told her she was imagining it! And the Morgellons can’t be due to chemtrails (something else that isn’t recognised in the mainstream), because she very rarely leaves the house. She has though, for years, been on a cocktail of pharmaceutical drugs, prescribed for her M.E. symptoms (something else that wasn’t recognised until relatively recently), which I believe to be the cause (of her Morgellons).

        If David Icke has got ‘adrenal burnout’ (assuming it is what I have heard and read about), then he has a long battle for his health ahead of him, and a week or two of rest will not even begin to make a difference. Otherwise, yes, it could ‘just’ be exhaustion.

        • Crystali said, on January 19, 2014 at 3:56 pm

          With all due respect Clare, don’t misinterpret his sanctimonious medical condition with his sanctimonious psychological condition, one is most likely responsible for the other. You can recover from exhaustion, but can you recover from the ass about face reaction you gained from the former?
          It’s all nonsense, all of it, it means nothing really but gives a platform for one to air their opinions.

          I wish him well, I don’t want to see anyone suffer, not even the shittiest shits of the world, (yes I know, how dare I) and maybe I am not allowed the luxury of putting heart before intellect but wisdom feeds them both.
          Peace.

          • earthlinggb said, on January 20, 2014 at 1:52 am

            And there we disagree once more. I want to see the shittiest of shits burn in hell. They have caused enormous human suffering. One can make excuses all one wishes for these people but I’m afraid I hold no sympathy for them. Icke, I actually have sympathy for. I believe he is a poor little man who somehow feels life and people have belittled him (even way before Wogan) and he desperately wants recognition and to exact some form of revenge but, at the same time, has become corrupted himself.

    • spartacus said, on January 19, 2014 at 1:23 pm

      I think it more likely to be bullshit burnout myself. I dont like to see anyone ill, but if i believe them to be a long standing con artist and snake oil confidence trickster then my sympathy just evaporates i’m afraid.
      It is only my opinion, but what i think we have here is a deeply suspect individual who also happens to be mentally ill.
      God help him if he had to actually work for a living in a genuinely stressful job, like perhaps in A&E in an extremely busy and short staffed hospital.
      I would bet my life that Icke would never tell a real doctor about what goes on in his head because he knows he would be sectioned under the mental health act probably. That’s why he uses or pretends to use all this new age fantasy healing nonsense.

    • stephen said, on January 20, 2014 at 12:17 am

      It is yuppie disease.
      It is what happens when you accept from rogues claiming to be spirit guides ayahusca which actually turns out to be womans hormonal replacement tablets.

  2. Crystali said, on January 18, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    That forum is the Truth-Zone 🙂

    • Crystali said, on January 18, 2014 at 11:10 pm

      🙂 🙂 😀

      • silvarizla said, on January 19, 2014 at 6:29 am

        😀 Thanks
        silvarizla.wordpress.com

        • Crystali said, on January 19, 2014 at 3:39 pm

          I had never heard of that forum until yesterday, I don’t go to forums as a rule, way too much bickering and ripping apart of each other, I do go to the GLP forum, full of rabid indignation, the sort of people that need some resemblance of sanity. I will have a peek at that link, the video is fairly funny, must be the most redone video there is.

          • silvarizla said, on January 19, 2014 at 3:51 pm

            I prefer their sister forum myself, http://sanctumzone.co.uk they’re two very different places, I find SZ a bit more loose so if TZ isn’t your cup of tea take a peek at SZ. It helps if you’re an ex member of David Icke’s forum as there is much discussion on it.

  3. stephen said, on January 18, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    It is all just a matter of time anyway before Icke announces his PRS stunt.

    Problem- because you truthers did not do your jobs properly and donate enough money i have no choice but to cose down TPV.

    Reaction- oh noooooo please please nooooooo what am i gonna do now after cooking up?

    Solution- Ok, well here is a solution. Accept Russel Brand as your saviour and leader and tune into a new and improved daily dose of altrnative media starting with the godheads very own early morning show “Russel Brands Groucho club” and enjoy the early morning laughter as eachday Russel invites a member of the Groucho club to step onto the masonic floor to laugh and joke about all the latest conspiracy gossip. First up is son of godhead himself.
    This is followed by the banned presented by Noel Gallagher and Robbie Williams where eachday they and Gareth Icke will sing all the latest lovey dovey cheeseball music Branson can produce.
    Then it is over to the Vatican for a daily seminar with that new-age hipster for a show called ‘The Popes Voice’ where the pope fills us with words of wisdom and instructs us on our spiritual path to new-age enightenment.
    Then we go across to the psychic room for a show presented by Glen Hoddle. He will enlighten us with his deep psychic understanding into life after death and explain why disabled and abused children deserve to burn in Hell. Guests will include Peter Tatchel and the like, and every friday Glen will be joined by Kevin Keegan who will help Glen try predict saturdays football scores.
    Then it is over to David Icke for TPV evening news. On this show Icke gets to pretend he is a bigshot newsreader and produces it from that stupid room that resembles a childs playroom and sometimes he will present TPV evening news while sat on an infantile jigsaw couch or if the issue is about reptiles he will sit on his big stupid OBEY stool.
    We then follow the son of God through to TPV sports lounge for a show called the hand of god where Icke will be met with pundits all sitting around supping cans of Tennants such as Eric Cantona who while watching a live football match that Icke will commentate on will enlighten us with all his great philosophies and teach us the secret arts of the Karati kick.. Paul Gascoigne will be there with parrots on his shoulders repeating everything he says while showing off his ability to down a pint in two seconds. After 10 pints Gazza will attempt to explain what a lovely bloke Raul Moat was and how it was alll a big set-up. Then over to the hand of god himself. Diego Maradona will talk about the positive effects of drugs and how they can be used to enhance performannce and widen a persons consciousness. He will also give expert insight into the workings of the Italian Mafia and expose just how great theiir fear and influence goes n the world of sporting corruption.
    Finally after the game ends Icke will go back tthrough to his childs playroom and read out the full-time scores.
    Then it is onto TPV phone in where DIFFERS get the chance to phone the premium rate number and express their opinions on what is going on in the world. The host for this show is nervous and stuttering Richie Allan who has been allowed to stay on as a volunteer due to being such a great yes man and our first caller comes from Miami. It is Steve-o from the Jack-ass crew.
    Next up is SeanX aka SeanADL from the David Icke forum who wants to express his venom and hatred towards anyone that does not donate to David Icke for offering such a miraculous solution.

    • mimi said, on January 19, 2014 at 12:59 pm

      hehe…. and would that be theee Gareth Icke who set a new record for straws up his hiney?? and it was such an accomplishment that Davey had it posted on his website Gareth Icke???

      • spartacus said, on January 19, 2014 at 1:30 pm

        At the rate that him and his father talk out of their asses, those straws are not going to be there long. If they were stuffing fireworks up there and lighting them i would have watched that.

        • mimi said, on January 19, 2014 at 2:50 pm

          well I must say the only reason I posted it was to give a bit of an indication of the at times completely juvenile mindset we are dealing with here, I mean between Seany, the DIRECTOR of TPV publicly posting about fishing smelling women and slags and Gareth publicly sticking straws up his hiney and posting it on youtube and David having posted to that on his political headline page (and not something people particularly wanted to see when looking at the day’s headline…) well it just makes a person wonder doesn’t it…

          • Kate said, on January 19, 2014 at 7:00 pm

            LOL.How old is Gareth? 20-something? Guys do stupid things like this at his age and think it’s funny. They like scatalogical humor for some reason — until they get married and the woman civilizes the neanderthal out of them. Still, it’s in bad taste and even worse judgment to do something like this when you’re in the public eye. I can’t imagine David would post something like this. This shows that David is not in control up there – must be Sean “the fish” and Gareth both of whom have the mentalities of juveniles. Funny how they accuse women of smelling like fish when thier own straws smell like fecal pudding. Ewwwwww….

          • mimi said, on January 19, 2014 at 9:01 pm

            To clarify, some who meandered to David’s Headline Page in his website saw a link to the above video featuring Gareth’s son breaking the world record straw up the hiney video.

          • mimi said, on January 19, 2014 at 9:25 pm

            added note: Gareth also said in the youtube comments to his own above video that he is going to print out all the comments on his video onto one long stream of paper, roll it up and stick THAT in his hiney and post it on youtube, something that I am sure people are just waiting to see…. ugh and more ugh

          • spartacus said, on January 20, 2014 at 10:27 am

            Sorry mimi i did’nt mean to diss the video you put up, it’s just that Gareth gives me the creeps, just like his father.

        • Crystali said, on January 19, 2014 at 3:13 pm

          LOL

          • mimi said, on January 20, 2014 at 11:36 am

            @Spartacus

            I know you weren’t meaning to diss it, he gives me the creeps as well, the whole inner core lot of them do.

          • Kate said, on January 20, 2014 at 6:21 pm

            Gareth is pure class, I tell you! lol

      • Kate said, on January 20, 2014 at 1:10 pm

        Gareth is just protecting the Icke blood line:

      • earthlinggb said, on January 20, 2014 at 4:54 pm

        “I was Gareth Icke’s butt handler.” What more needs said about the people who work for and are a part of David Icke’s world? A man who says people are all too busy watching sports and “The Price is right” etc. “WELL ETHEL, COME SEE, HE’S GOING FOR 500 STRAWS UP HIS ASS!” And what does the messiah, who slags off every last one of you who watch the game shows, do? He promotes his son sticking straws up his ass.
        What a FCUKING idiot of a man. A complete moron. Seriously. What a bloody 1st class idiot. Yet he’s going to stop the world from crashing in on itself: “Look what my son can do! After all he’s the son of the son of the godhead. He’s the godhead’s grandson”. Dear god alfrickigmighty!

        • Kate said, on January 20, 2014 at 5:35 pm

          Agreed. Gareth is a disgrace. Hardly the kind of progeny one would expect from the Godhead.

        • Hector Vector said, on January 20, 2014 at 6:28 pm

          I hate you, earthlingb! You made me Google what the fuck everybody is talking about, Gareth Icke straws.

          I only wish Bill Hicks was around to see that. I wonder what he would have made of Icke Snr’s regular endorsements of his philosophy having raised such an exemplary citizen.

          By the way, I think that Guinness would have disqualified him because the straws were still in the cellophane wrapper – too easy!

          • Babs said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:10 am

            WHAT? ?? I thought this was a joke
            I can’t bear to watch

    • stephen said, on January 19, 2014 at 7:08 pm

      At the time of writing this i had not actually yet watched the video to know Icke had actually dished out his anger at those did not send him money.
      I thought it was coming. But it actually happened.
      Staggering.
      The guy is sprinting not jogging.
      I thought this PRS stunt was at least 3 months away.

      • mimi said, on January 19, 2014 at 8:41 pm

        Ha… that he is.. well after having been suspended for a while now I just made my first and last post today in the DI forum since I found my suspension lifted. I put a quote from a youtube comments section in a thread that only one person had responded to asking what people think of David’s recent breakdown with a link to his Skype appearance.

        Here is the quoted comment:

        Julian Shure wrote:

        Haven’t we heard from various so called leaders before: “Our freedom is under attack! You’re either with us, or you’re with the terrorist?” But when given time, away from the hysteria, it is plain to see – that we don’t have to be with either.

        Not to say, that the one who’s screeching the alarm bells, couldn’t possibly be, one and the same with the nemesis, and a grand old master of that stage-craft, an illusionist who’s been pulling the strings, all along, on an unwitting audience?

        In the pursuit of truth, one mustn’t fall for informal fallacies such as the false dilemma. And so too, one mustn’t manipulate others by using them, otherwise we’re not abiding to the Golden Rule.

        “Someday we’ll find it, that rainbow connection,
        the lovers the dreamers and me.” – Kermit The Frog

        unquote

        ….. and with that…within a few short minutes…..as I fully expected…banned forever.

        http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12
        

    • Annette Erdtsieck said, on January 20, 2014 at 2:02 am

      I’d watch the fuck out of that … 😉

  4. Tom said, on January 19, 2014 at 8:38 am

  5. Will said, on January 19, 2014 at 9:41 am

    David Icke has “adrenal fatigue” or “burnout” because he is a special man who has special conditions and needs special treatments, and it also signifies how incredibly hard he has been working for the great and glorious TPV. But I think it is “just” exhaustion, the normal type people get when they stress too much and work too much, which is bad enough. But enough of what I think here’s some links from both sides of the fence:

    http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/what-is-adrenal-fatigue

    “Although it affects millions of people in the U.S. and around the world, conventional medicine does not yet recognize it as a distinct syndrome”

    http://www.naturalnews.com/019339_adrenal_fatigue_chronic_stress.html

    “To make matters worse, doctors often don’t diagnose this problem… So, why don’t doctors recognize adrenal fatigue? In medical school, they are only taught to look for extreme adrenal malfunction — Addison’s Disease, which occurs when the glands produce far too little cortisol, and Cushing’s Syndrome, which stems from excessive cortisol production.”

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/addisons-disease/expert-answers/adrenal-fatigue/faq-20057906

    “Adrenal fatigue is a term applied to a collection of nonspecific symptoms, such as body aches, fatigue, nervousness, sleep disturbances and digestive problems. The term often shows up in popular health books and on alternative medicine websites, but it isn’t an accepted medical diagnosis.”

    http://www.hormone.org/hormones-and-health/myth-vs-fact/adrenal-fatigue

    “Adrenal fatigue” is not a real medical condition. There are no scientific facts to support the theory that long-term mental, emotional, or physical stress drains the adrenal glands and causes many common symptoms.
    Adrenal insufficiency is a real disease diagnosed through blood tests.
    There is no test that can detect adrenal fatigue.

    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/fatigued-by-a-fake-disease/

    “Fatigue and stress may be part of life, but they’re also symptoms of serious medical conditions. But they can be hard to treat because they’re non-specific and may not be easily distinguishable from the fatigue of, well, life. This same vague collection of symptoms is called something entirely different in the alternative health world. It’s branded “adrenal fatigue,” an invented condition that’s widely embraced as real among alternative health providers. There’s no evidence that adrenal fatigue actually exists.”

    • stephen said, on January 19, 2014 at 8:39 pm

      It is just yuppie disease.

  6. Babs said, on January 19, 2014 at 10:11 am

    He doesn’t seem to get it. We do not have to give our money if we don’t want to.

    Not everyone is blind. If anyone still wants to donate money to the shareholders then good luck to them. Yesterday I read some posts from really hard up people who are donors I really hope they start reading and digesting these blogs. That’s of course if the posts were genuine. See how cynical I have become hhmmmmm

  7. cheryl Monti said, on January 19, 2014 at 11:19 am

    I;m getting really fed up of all of this now and I shall never give anyone money who tries to get it by making me feel bad, emotional blackmail. The whole thing is disgusting and as for Mr Icke getting angry because the money wasn’t comming in like he wanted, well, how dare he use his position to brow beat other people, that’s low stuff and a bit like extortion. Where is the infinate love he keeps going on about? This whole saga has put me off him and all like him because they are just as bad, if not worse than what we have already. Never give in to a bully, even if you get a black eye because if you don’t make a stand they come back even worse. I’m sorry that he’s not very well and I really hope he gets better but the way this has all gone is sick and many, many people have been hurt and I’m one of them.

  8. spartacus said, on January 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    You dont have to put this up earthlinggb, but i have just come across a comment on Spivey’s the muppet show about tpv. Someone posting as Deborah is claiming that you are using the pseudonym of Keith Thomas. Just thought i’d bring it to your attention.

    • earthlinggb said, on January 19, 2014 at 1:41 pm

      There seems to be a lot of suggestion that I post here and there with pseudonyms. What can I say? Yes, I do, I post as Keith Thomas, Spartacus, Marko, Stephen, Julian, Hector Vector and a whole host of others just to make it look like lots of people agree with me. That’s what I do coz I’m a sad bastard. These KFM people are not very bright and despise me. What can I say? 🙂

    • stephen said, on January 19, 2014 at 3:49 pm

      Here is a good video from a great man i found on youtube exposing the fraudster Icke.
      He accuses Icke of using mk ultra techniques to hypnotise his DIFFERS.
      Personally i dont really agree it is mk ultra. I personally think it his taste in design and choice of furniture very childish and would look better in a nursery school.

  9. stephen said, on January 19, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    I have only just now began watching the video from Icke and i have paused it at 11mins to say i am completely disgusted by its content.
    I am livid.
    I actually feel this video is so disgusting the police should get involved.
    This is blackmail.
    This is lies and manipulation.
    And to say my grandchildren will die by lethal vaccination unless i give him at least £1 per month is theft and TERRORISM.
    Icke is an abusive bully.
    Also Icke is nothing but a cowardly sap. He would not know what hard-work is. He has yuppy disease.
    Icke BE A REAL MAN NOT A WOOSE.
    LEARN TO EXPAND YOUR AWARENESS TO THAT OF A MAN AND NOT SOME INFINITE LOVEY DOVEY HIPPY FRAUD AND LEARN IT IS MIND OVER MATTER. Exhaustion. Pathetic.
    Just pathetic.
    You are a wimp mr Icke.
    Also most people learn at a young age the world can be cruel but most learn to be brave. Giving you money is not the answer.
    You Icke are a frightened little scared boy Icke.
    ICKE, WE ALL DIE ANYWAY ICKE, I SUGGEST YOU GROW SOME BALLS AND ACCEPT THAT ICKE, YOU PATHETIC COWARD.
    When you stop being frightened of death ICKE, you will learn what happens during life is just an experience and nothing is so bad afterall.
    NOW STOP BEING A WEAKLING AND A COWARD AND GROW UP, ICKE!!!

    • stephen said, on January 19, 2014 at 5:53 pm

      Also for those that defend Icke by saying it is his yuppy disease making him act like this. No. Pamela Lee Richards already exposed him as an abusive manipulative bully.

  10. stephen said, on January 19, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    I very rarely visit the DIF nowadays but after hearing David Trickers video i decided to pop over and i am utterly speechless.
    They begin by blaming Russel Brand. Another poster actually seems to think Alice Rothschild should chip in.
    We have someone else has been off work all week glued to tpv and is going to jack in his job after secret information revealed on tpv that his employers are breaching health and safety and is to donate his last £225 to tpv And is going to sell all his belongings and give to David Icke. ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO ACCEPT THIS ICKE? IF YOU DO YOU ARE A WEASEL.
    Someone else thinks he needs to go to Peru for a few weeks and take some ayahuasca. DEAR GOD!
    Then we have someone bumped SKY tv in order to give the money to TPV. But that is impossible. You cannot bump sky. If you dont pay they switch you off, that simple.
    Someone else felt so guilty they ordered an i love David Icke t-shirt with the last of her giro. Next weeks giro is going on the perception deception.
    Someone else reckons he needs more vitamin B12.
    Someone else thinks more donate buttons is what is needed.
    Someone else thinks smoking some weed would be good for him.
    Someone else thinks it is great that since Icke made this video donations have increased by £10k.
    Another two posters begin panicking the world is about to come crashing down and it is all the faults of the 99.9% of people that have never heard of the illuminati.
    Someone else advocates using MK ultra techniques to manipulate the sheeple away from msm. WHAT?
    Someone else says donations are now upto £74k. That is a quick £20k.

    Then we have a Russel Brand mass tweet campaign to give him dogs abuse and this is advocated by a forum advisor. I HOPE RUSSEL GOES TO THE POLICE!!

    Someone else has a thread suggesting the Illuminati have a Toxic mole placed inside TPV.
    Another guy wants the studio cctv’d with PC’S and phones rigged and that anyone not happy being stalked orwellian stye should be sacked. MY GOD YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS UP.
    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061947445&postcount=11
    Someone else reckons the government are waging war against tpv.
    Someone else reckons David has the cooperates running scared. Funny how it is not them i see running around screaming HEEEEEEEELP HEEEEEEELP GIVE ME MONEY WE ARE GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEE.

    So who is scared? is the one begging for help and donations the one needs helping and suffering fear or is it the one that does not ask for help nor feel the need to recieve help that is riddled by fear?

    I personally think this is new-age evangelists and nothing more annoying and destructive than those try force help on those dont want it.
    They attempt to instill fear where no fear is present in order to offer their solution which is not required by people with no fear.

    • mimi said, on January 20, 2014 at 2:13 am

      there is fear all over the TPV threads, instigated by David and his inner core and pumped up by the mods, it’s sad really, and here David and his ilk have been preaching the ‘fear is an illusion’ ‘all is infinite love’ gospel all this time, that quickly evaporates when demands for money or the sky will fall comes into it. It’s a cult, plain and simple.

    • Babs said, on January 20, 2014 at 8:49 am

      I saw some posts where PENSIONERS were giving as much as they could and a window cleaner who couldn’t afford to donate more was going to look for extra work so he could give more.

      I felt like weeping.

      Does David Icke have no shame? Maybe his latest illness is being caused by karma……..

      • stephen said, on January 20, 2014 at 10:52 am

        It is the grandchildren of the pensioners i feel sorry for.
        The money they are sending to Icke in order to insure their grandchildren dont get killed by lethal injection would be better put in a savings account for when they are older and could come in handy for a deposit on their first house providing heat and warmth for them and their beautiful partners that are going to start a loving and caring family togethor..
        Instead of which Icke walked off with their inheritance and now the grandchildren have to struggle for survival and the opposite sex wont even look at them. But at least they have been saved from lethal vaccinations.

        “Granny, why am i signing on the dole and seeking companionship up the gumtree clinic”?
        “I am sorry Billy, but i gave all your money to David Icke in order to prevent you from being exterminated”.
        “But Granny, death is going to come to me anyway and had you left me your hard earned money instead of giving it to a stranger not appart of this family my life might actually be worth living right now”.

      • mimi said, on January 20, 2014 at 11:28 am

        I saw a couple of posts written by old pensioners, one followed the other, one was a first post and the other by a ‘newbie’ as well and then the third post lauding them for giving out of their stark pensions. I do believe that those two posts from the ‘old pensioners’ were fake and written by already existing members, this was also the strong suspicion of those on another forum discussing those two specific posts. That is how far they will go to manipulated members to donate. I am absolutely sure though that there ARE pensioners and definitely there are those on benefits who are giving monthly donations and more, some who are doing whatever they can to come up with money. What surprises me are the (few) members in the forum who I thought of as very smart and discerning with at least good critical thinking skills who are also going along with it. Ah well, not as smart or discerning as I thought. It is like a psych-op, a mini-false flag operation that people are falling for.

        • stephen said, on January 20, 2014 at 12:32 pm

          The forum is controlled from the very top down by highly manipulative techniques.
          This thread below is a fine example.
          At a time when Icke was facing huge scrutiny on the forum over his greed and wealth suddenly this thread appeared on the DIF begging Icke to do a talk for free and Icke agreed.
          However this thread got used to debunk and ban Icke doubters and his sheeple hailed and glorified their messiah. However the thread quietly fell to the bottom and got forgotten about and to this day it lies in the murky depths just waiting for someone to pull it out and say, HEY ICKE, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FULFILL YOUR BROKEN PROMISE?
          http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201906

    • Hector Vector said, on January 20, 2014 at 3:02 pm

      I hope you don’t mind, stephen, but I quoted your comment in its entirety:

      The Widow’s Mite: Techniques for Effective Extraction
      http://shtfwatch.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-widows-mite-techniques-for.html

      • stephen said, on January 20, 2014 at 3:54 pm

        That is terrific Hector.
        Your blog is one i check daily for updates, did not realise it was yours.
        Good stuff.

        • Hector Vector said, on January 20, 2014 at 4:00 pm

          Oh no! The pressure is now on me. I didn’t really feel like a blogger until I read that.

          • stephen said, on January 20, 2014 at 5:30 pm

            No pressure from me m8!
            You already done enough just by giving people that are searching google regarding their suspicions an outlet that confirms their suspicions are shared by others.
            Personally i don’t think the discontentment began with TPV. I think it began on the David Icke forum when vast amounts of users began to feel the place was being ran like a cult with a leader as opposed to an uncensored alternative media site.
            TPV was just the straw that broke the camels back when people realised all Icke is doing is cashing in his cheque..
            Icke should have began this buisness himself using his own money and just made it his own buisness and ran it ethically.

  11. Annette Erdtsieck said, on January 20, 2014 at 4:02 am

    I see David Vaughn Icke isn’t using his address as share holder

    http://sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/92260-the-people-s-voice.html?start=2140

    It’s Sean’s.

    • Babs said, on January 20, 2014 at 10:00 am

      The address in the Isle of Wight is used by another 100 plus companies
      I couldn’t figure out what that address is?

      • stephen said, on January 20, 2014 at 10:19 am

        As far as i can see the address is 9 St John’s place.
        Type 9 St John’s place into google and it reveals the address belongs to Moore Stephens accountants.

        • spartacus said, on January 20, 2014 at 10:39 am

          Stephen, there is another guy on youtube that you and others might find of interest. gorilla 199.

          • earthlinggb said, on January 20, 2014 at 11:15 am

            Spartacus, I’ve had a look at that guy too. He’s a little OTT re the christianity thing and Icke’s a mason (which he very well could be) and “Apollyon the destroyer”. He doesn’t seem that interested in attacking Icke for what is real, substantive and “on this earth” supportable. He seems as “away with the fairies” as Icke is – they’re just on opposing fairy networks. Just my tuppence worth.

          • Hector Vector said, on January 20, 2014 at 11:31 am

            I agree regarding gorilla 199. I first saw him a while back and thought he made greater quantum leaps in logic that David Icke. If anything, an unaware sad reflection of Ickean conspiranoia.

          • stephen said, on January 20, 2014 at 11:33 am

            Yeah i know him.
            Some good work but OTT in certain areas

          • stephen said, on January 20, 2014 at 12:00 pm

            @HectorVector.

            While i agree with Gorilla199 i also disagree.

            Gorilla199 will say David Icke is being made to lie by Satanic demons and while i agree David is lying i dont agree he is being made to lie by the spirits. IMO Icke is lying about being in contact with spirits in order to push himself forward as being a man of great psychic ability and prophet.
            Gorilla199 uses Ickes lies to validate his own unproven beliefs which i personally dont have an opinion regarding.

          • mimi said, on January 22, 2014 at 1:00 am

            He does seem to be off kilter and on the wacky side with the apollyon destroyer stuff etc..and the trouble he’s gotten into etc.. sometimes I find that occasionally interesting info can be gleaned at times by some of the most off-kilter of sources.

            Take the below video of his for instance, forget the apollyon destroyer little bit at the beginning. He is actually seeing something in the video he show’s of Pamela Richards, David’s ex-wife, that I think is worth pointing out. Her manner of speaking, her arm movements and hand signs etc.. I have studied mind control programming and mk-ultra (including sub-projects) quite a bit and she appears to me in this video to have been the subject of some form of programming, the mirroring is there as well. Many would probably see her as an airhead here and not give it or her any further notice but she is showing signs of a person who has been programmed, who has had her mind tampered with.

          • Kate said, on January 22, 2014 at 1:31 am

            This guy always struck me as delusional, like he actually thinks he is as big or bigger than David Icke, but the truth is, no one knows who he is. He’s some anonymous guy who rants on the YouTube.

        • Babs said, on January 20, 2014 at 10:50 am

          Thanks for that Stephen. I hope they didn’t prepare the so called account released by TPV! !!
          .

      • Hector Vector said, on January 20, 2014 at 11:23 am

        It’s not unusual for a company to use an accountant’s address. When I was a company director we used the accountant’s address, I’m not sure why but my business partner explained at the time. I do remember that the name of the company had to be displayed on the premises, so our company name joined dozens of others on one of those black Lego like boards with white letters – which I thought looked rather cheap.

  12. spartacus said, on January 20, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Ahhhhh, yes, ummmm. Sorry guys, i see what you mean about gorilla 199, “opposing fairy networks” lol. Well at least i got some well informed replies. He does’nt look the full shilling does he? Definately could be a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

    • mimi said, on January 20, 2014 at 3:14 pm

      I think it time I will start looking into the background of some of the people who are presenters in the inner circle or have been involved in the TPV show. Starting with Peter Tatchell.

      Thought of by some as a self-publicist and secular martyr, he was a member of the Green Party. It seems after a cursory look of about 2 minutes on my part into his background that he has been quite controversial having been accused of promoting paedophilia in part from a letter he once wrote to The Guardian called ‘Dared to Speak that he now says was edited and misinterpreted as revenge for his self admitted ambush of Nick Griffin for his party’s record of racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism and hostility to muslims.

      Peter states “My Guardian letter cited examples of youths in Papuan tribes and some of my friends who, when they were under 16, had sex with adults (over 18s), but who do not feel they were harmed.

      I was not endorsing their viewpoint but merely stating that they had a different perspective from the mainstream opinion about inter-generational sex. They have every right for their perspective to be heard.

      Now mature adults, they look back on their under-age sexual relations with older people and do not feel that they were harmed. If this is their considered view, we should respect their evaluation (while also recognising that some people are harmed by early sexual experiences).

      http://www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rights/age_of_consent/Under-age-sex-Statement-of-clarification-by-Peter-Tatchell.htm

      The letter to The Guardian, dated 26 June 1997, is reproduced in full below

      ROS Coward (Why Dares to Speak says nothing useful, June 23) thinks it is “shocking” that Gay Men’s Press has published a book, Dares To Speak, which challenges the assumption that all sex involving children and adults is abusive. I think it is courageous.

      The distinguished psychologists and anthropologists cited in this book deserve to be heard. Offering a rational, informed perspective on sexual relations between younger and older people, they document examples of societies where consenting inter-generational sex is considered normal, beneficial and enjoyable by old and young alike.

      Prof Gilbert Herdt points to the Sambia tribe of Papua New Guinea, where all young boys have sex with older warriors as part of their initiation into manhood. Far from being harmed, Prof Herdt says the boys grow up to be happy, well-adjusted husbands and fathers.

      The positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to non-Western cultures. Several of my friends – gay and straight, male and female – had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy.

      While it may be impossible to condone paedophilia, it is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful.

      While it may be impossible to condone paedophilia, it is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful.

      Peter Tatchell.

      http://www.christian.org.uk/news/tatchell-reiterates-call-for-lower-age-of-consent/

      He is for the lowering of the age of sexual consent but he seems to portray his reasoning on falsities as if young people in teen years the same age or very close in age are being arrested and thrown in prison and being persecuted and harassed by legal authorities for having sexual relations under the age of consent like for instance two 15 year olds having sex when the age of consent is 16 etc…

      The age of sexual consent laws were not created to go after and persecute and criminalize teens of close age or same age, they were created to give lawful authorities the legal means to charge adults with paedophilia/pederasty and related sex charges for grooming and targeting young people under the age of consent.

      In other words they are not created in order to have the means to arrest a 14 year old having sex with another 14-15 year old, they were created to have the means to charge and arrest a full grown adult, say a pedophile or pederast, for having sexual relations or conspiring to have sexual relations with someone under the age of consent. So if you for instance lower the age of consent to 12 yrs then their is no legal means to charge some 35 year old or 67 year old pervert with having sexual relations with a 12 year old because that is ‘the age of consent’ according to my understanding.

      Anyways, there certainly is a lot of controversy surrounding Peter Tatchell after looking into him for just a few minutes. It seems it may end up being a lot of research when checking into the backgrounds of those who have been associated with TPV or are presenters on the network.

      And as far as Indiegogo:

      Earlier this week The Verge and reporter Adrianne Jeffries did the crowdfunding world a service by collecting and publishing a deep data set on the historical success rates of Indiegogo campaigns.

      The article points out that Indiegogo generally sees about 9.3% of their campaigns receive full funding. That data is based on over 142,000 campaigns that were crawled in an effort to build a high-level overview of the platform. This is juxtaposed against Kickstarter’s historical (and publicly available) 44% success rate.

      Indiegogo will essentially let just about anyone crowdfund just about anything on their platform save for a select few exceptions that encapsulate legally contentious endeavors like those funding drug paraphenelia, firearms and hate groups. Due to this open approach to crowdfunding, it is absolutely crucial that backers of Indiegogo take extra care in performing due diligence on Indiegogo campaigns.

      Pragmatic backers will consider the following:

      •The team – Is the campaign creator (or creators) able and qualified to deliver on rewards?
      •The campaign itself – Is it overly ambitious? What is the aim? Does the campaign clearly explain how this goal is going to be met? What are the risks?
      •The funding strategy – This is perhaps the most overlooked component on Indiegogo. For example, if the team is crowdfunding a hardware project and using flexible funding what happens if they fall short of the goal? If the team is asking for $100,000, can they still deliver with $10,000?

      With these things in mind, a low success rate on Indiegogo may be nothing more than a sign of a discerning public that is being smart in what they choose not to fund.

      http://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2013/08/20429-most-indiegogo-campaigns-fail-and-thank-goodness/

    • Crystali said, on January 20, 2014 at 10:59 pm

      You’re the one that gave the recommendation… LOL

      I told him once that his approach to people is infantile and thoughtless, he went into a rant and accused me of being one of them for having a sun as my avatar. Twit 😕

  13. Babs said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:11 am

    motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-fatal-flaws-at-peoples-voice_20.html?m=1

    • Babs said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:12 am

      The truth is coming out by the day

    • stephen said, on January 21, 2014 at 5:30 pm

      David Icke allows his forum to be ran with pyramid structure..
      His whole community is ran with a hierarchy that loves power.
      So i am not in the least bit surprised by this article and the accusations of bullying and the rest.
      On the DIF the MODS are two faced and wilfully negligent.
      There are those on the DIF can say and do as they wish and the abuse can be vile yet it can be a punishable offence simply to retort to those individuals.
      However the way they treat people is coming back to nip them in the bud.
      They have pissed too many people off.
      Icke seems wilfully ignorant of this fact.
      He complains about people that speak out against him like he is a victim yet fails to realise the reason people turn against him and it is because good people have been treated appalingly by a monsterous network that he is in charge of.

      • mimi said, on January 21, 2014 at 9:35 pm

        Spot on Stephen!

        This is how someone else worded it:

        ‘The Pyramid Of Power’ is a description of how control is set in place and maintained.

        The example that I am using shows how the David Icke forum is set up on exactly the same structure that is utilised throughout human society to control the population, and which David Icke has talked about himself, and how this form of control is maintained.

        If we start from the top of the pyramid, we can see that David Icke is the ‘capstone’, to which the energy that is within the pyramid is ‘funneled’/’channeled’. On the forum, David is representing the ‘missing capstone’, as he does not post on the forum itself. David sends his message out to forum users via his website that the forum is affiliated with, his newsletters, podcasts, forum administrators, and the books and videos that he sells.

        Sean, the webmaster, is at the next level of the pyramid, and is responsible for maintaining the energy ‘funneling’, or ‘channeling’, up the pyramid to the ‘capstone’, David Icke. His role is to remove any re-direction of energy from its intended target, the ‘capstone’.

        John Peters, and the advertisers on the website, are the propaganda tool of the structure.

        Forum administrators are in place to maintain an inner hierarchy with those that maintain the forum structure. They have greater control and use of the structure than the moderators do, and hence, more ‘apparent’ authority.

        Moderators are there to perform the menial tasks that help to maintain the inner workings of the structure and be the ‘watch-dogs’ of the forum, helping to judge the ‘worth’/’value’ of those that are at a lower level within the structure.

        Premier subscribers are those that fund the structure on a continual basis, more so individually than those that merely buy the products that are for sale. They can also be utilised by the power structure to maintain control over dissenting ‘voices’ of other forum members.

        Forum members are there to provide energy to the structure that is in place. They consist of the majority of members that have the least power within the structure.

        Visitors/guests are potential contributors of energy to the power structure, and are enticed to join the forum through messages, advertisements, and the like, that appear on the forum and the website.

        The whole structure within the pyramid is there to maintain the energetic flow by not allowing any within the lower levels of the pyramid from questioning David Icke directly, hence the missing ‘capstone’ aspect, unless they have ‘proven’ their allegiance to the ‘message’ that David promotes through his website, podcasts, books, DVD’s, newsletters, etc.

        This shows that David Icke is not an example of someone that is freeing anyone, which is a personal choice that each of us decides for ourselves, and is merely setting up another ‘Pyramid Of Power’ within the existing ‘Pyramid Of Power’ that the elite/powers that be/THEY (The Hierarchy Enslaving You)/haves, use to gain and maintain power over humanity, who are those that make up the ‘apparent’ non-elite/non-powerful/enslaved/have nots.

        Whether this is done intentionally or not, belies the fact that ‘The Pyramid Of Power’ structure is in place on the David Icke forum.

        Secrecy and silence are utilised to help maintain the forum structure and keep this knowledge of ‘The Pyramid Of Power’ from being exposed to those that are within the structure, and any potential members of ‘The Pyramid Of Power’ that the forum structure is.

        Hmmmmm, here’s the ‘Home’ page of David Icke’s website.
        Is that the ‘All Seeing Eye’ in the circle on the “d”, with the “d” and the “i” making the ‘two pillars of freemasonry’ below the ‘blue arch’ ???

        Of course, the ‘All Seeing Eye’ appears on T-shirts that are being sold at davidickewasright.com, as well as other products.

        http://hpanwoforum.freeforums.org/the-pyramid-of-power-and-david-icke-t185.html

        I would say that a pyramid scheme/structure has been set up in TPV as well.

        • Kate said, on January 22, 2014 at 1:28 am

          Good write up, Mimi…And don’t forget the surveillance. The NSA listens in on instant messages. The Icke mods listen in on private messages on the forum.

          • mimi said, on January 22, 2014 at 3:25 am

            yes that’s right Kate, that is a very important point….the surveillance….and I suspect also that data mining is going on in the forum.

        • stephen said, on January 22, 2014 at 1:37 pm

          Yep, well said.

          And like with any controlled community it’s structure contains it’s masses that carry forward what ever agenda Icke is pushing.

          Those are the masses that read a David Icke headline exposing Jimmy Savile for being a necrophiliac and they unquestioningly assume that this is there heroic Messiah waging war against everything evil.
          But Icke never said it was evil.
          He just said Savile was a necrophiliac.

          Clearly Icke has nothing against Necrophiliacs.
          A man hailed by Icke named Credo Mutwa as a great zulu shaman also admitted gaining great spiritual knowledge from acts of necrophilia.
          Apparently Credo in his quest for knowledge committed other acts so sordid he could not reveal.
          I wonder what those acts where? child abuse by any chance?

          Anyway, Ickes real message is well and truelly distorted by the time it gets to his masses.

          MIMI, have you witnessed on the DIF a growing number of established users encouraging Icke to use the very same manipulative techniques to make tpv successful as what the msm do, and what does this tell you?

          • mimi said, on January 24, 2014 at 12:01 am

            He doesn’t need to be encouraged, he and Sean and the inner circle are perfectly willing as are many of his followers, whatever works, I myself highly suspect it was set up this way from the very beginning to get his followers on board with the next faze of the operation, though many are willing to go along with anything Icke and his hidden backers conjure up ‘for the greater good’.

            I did read that one poster was advocating the idea of using mk-ultra techniques to get people to donate!!!!!! another that the Russians should be approached for contributions!?! it would be quite funny in a black humour kind of way if it wasn’t so sad and if there weren’t real people being genuinely taken in to contribute… to contribute anything at all let alone more than they can afford to give. Some are determined to get their money back as it was given under false pretenses. They will not succeed imo. It is a harsh lesson learned.

            From having read the court transcripts of the lawsuit between Icke and Royal Adams I got the very strong impression that Icke didn’t know very much about finances and I do believe that he really was ripped off then of quite a bit of money, it’s not true that he wasn’t paid anything, he got around $250,000 between 2001-2006 from the proceeds of those books but lost at least just under a million dollars, not sure if he ever got that back but that was then and this is now, he has made a lot of money since that time and has various little companies strewn about..

            I get the impression that if anyone holds sway over him outside of the obvious it is Linda Atherton, his ex-wife, I don’t believe he will ever let himself be ripped off again and he has people around him like a fortress who he believes will never let that happen and who have ripped other people off through lies and deceit to keep the coffers filled. I do think that he sees himself as someone under siege from a constant flow of what he sees as real and potential enemies and I do think he is a narcissist.

            As far as the paedophile thing, I find it disturbing that he has allowed Peter Tatchell on his show on more than one occasion as I do believe that he has most definitely been part of an agenda to promote paedophilia (deny it as he will, hjs own past words and writings speak volumes), if Icke is so mortified by it how on earth could he let that man on TPV and why hasn’t Bill Maloney been sought for an interview on TPV, he is a man who from what I have seen is truly laying himself on the line in order to expose it.

    • mimi said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:04 pm

      Thanks for the link Babs, I think I will transfer over some of the sections of the article:

      various quotes from article:

      “The People’s Voice” is the brainchild of David Icke, who has been haranguing and harassing people for money to set up a “Free and independant media”. As if people don’t have enough pressure now we must pay David Icke for our “Freedom”

      I began to support Mark ignoring the fact that the man stunk to high heaven, clearly never washed and wore the same clothes day after day. We were to build the team, get to know what Mark was interested in, help him to settle in and get good stories for him. Difficult as Mark Windows is only interested in Mark Windows, but I persevered.

      I got a great story from Ivan MacFaden who sailed from New South Wales to Osaka to San Fransisco, He tells of the desolation he found and the shock he felt comparing this trip to the same trip he had taken ten years before, I thought it would be great to help launch the show with such a relevant international story, Mark Windows and Richard Rowland agreed and I was instructed to call Ivan and make the necessary arrangements for the next day, This would mean Ivan, in Sydney would have to get up at 4.00 am, however a cheerful and laid back man agreed and having spoken to Ivan I knew the interview would be great as articulate as he was over the phone.

      The next morning I reminded Richard Rowlands and Mark Windows about the story, sent them the relevant links and again agreed that it would been a good interview for Mark. It was a busy day as I was trying to arrange more interviews with Mark who only seemed interested in interviewing his mates from North London, Richard Rowland and I agreed this was a problem and I was finding more international, knowledgeable people for Mark to talk to. When I looked at the running order of the show the “Ocean is Broken” story was not there, They had simply forgotten about it. I asked them if I should call Ivan and apologize and they lied, telling me the story was never confirmed. That there was no video, forgetting that another volunteer had spent all day finding videos and pictures for the item.

      I was shocked at such unprofessional behavior, and at the bare faced lie. I spoke to Liz Roberts the production manager about it and she just laughed.

      “It’s only television, Darling”

      No, this was supposed to be much, much more than that wasn’t it?

      I still believed the People’s Voice was about Truth so again, I persevered. I had been told that Chris Spivey might be interested in being interviewed so told the team, they said “Great” though I could tell they didn’t even know who Chris is, which perturbed me as I really like Chris’ work, think his research is great and feel that having him on the show would be great for The People’s Voice.

      A team member known to me as John began to tell us all that David Icke thought Chris was a “Loose cannon” and several more things. I asked John not to speak for David Icke and again was frozen out of the conversation. I was a bit worried but I knew that Chris Spivey is very well researched and even Mark Windows couldn’t balls that interview up…..how wrong I was!

      http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/the-muppet-show/

      After this disastrous week it was Richard’s birthday, so I decided to stay behind perhaps try a bit of bonding, I got into the spirit of the team, flattering Mark Windows ego, laughing at the “jokes” thinking The People’s Voice was important enough to make the effort for, however it was a step too far when Richard announced

      “I’m fucking that tonight”

      Referring to Jacqui Deevoy, I was appalled that he would speak about anyone so, but Jacqui didn’t seem to mind, she just smiled. Later when I went to the smoking cupboard behind the kitchen I walked in on Jacqui in a clinch with another “team member! Yeah take one for the team Jacqui !……….or two.

      “Media Whores” is a term frequently used by alternative media about Main Stream Media, the people who sold their souls to work mainstream, who learned to play nasty games, to shag anything just to get along. The People’s Voice is full of these people. They are still playing their games, but now they have volunteers and people who refuse to play these games to manipulate. People go into that environment, believing the hype, believing that truth will come out, that here will be honesty and respect. I have seen so many people hurt and humiliated at the People’s Voice, for no other reason than some stupid “Luvvie” is on another ego trip. I cannot allow myself to be silent when that is still going on.

      There never was any need for that.

      People ask where has all the money gone ? Lots of it has gone on these “Media Whores” the production teams all get paid. The Producer, editors and “Star” all get paid, get paid shedloads. David Icke gave “Media Whores” power over activists and truthers, he allowed the sell outs to manipulate the decent people, he gave the bullies power over gentle people, and they are taking full advantage. “Media Whores” Having learned their despicable trade in the much detested Main Stream Media are now corrupting The People’s Voice.

      Obviously there is much more I could write, but I am holding back hoping that TPV will get their act together and stop hurting people, hoping that David will step up and take responsibility, be man enough to admit there are fatal flaws that only he can address. Stop the inequalities, stop the ego games, stop being a drain and a hurt to people.

      http://motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-fatal-flaws-at-peoples-voice_20.html?m=1

      • mimi said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:45 pm

        I do take issue with Sonia as well, she has lost credibility with the way she represented herself with earthlinggb for one thing and I do not see David as the poor sick and tired victim here, he, for all intents and purposes is the boss. he knows the shite that is going on at TPV and the DI forum (for years there), he knows and ALLOWS it to continue and is at the very head of it.

        You cannot have a corrupt and morally depraved individual as your right hand man that you put IN CHARGE of your operations, as that corruption seeps downwards and is part and parcel of the very atmosphere at the top that reeks with unprofessionalism, disrespect, balled faced lies, bullying and manipulations and an affront to those who genuinely believed that is was as it was meant to appear and then imply that David himself is some poor bloke who is befuddled by what is going on around him. The Guardian on the Gates of the Ethos alright!?!

        David has publicly lied about this venture Private Limited Company called TPV from the very beginning, knowing lies, willful conscious lies, he has only admitted anything because he has been pretty much forced to. TPV has been built on deception and mistruths from the very beginning.

        • Kate said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:17 pm

          I agree that the culture of an organization is determined at the top, Mimi, but I also wonder whether Icke’s ethos of live and let live has led him to accept anyone and everyone at face value instead of judging and condemning them as he has been condemned? Personally, I wouldn’t tolerate horrible, abusive people around me or under my charge, but maybe Icke doesn’t think he can get any better since he has been so marginalized by the mainstream and has concluded that “beggars can’t be choosers.”

          • mimi said, on January 21, 2014 at 8:17 pm

            sorry but I have to disagree, I don’t think Icke really has a live and let live ethos.. if he did he would not be pulling the emotional, psychological and guilt inducing methods he has been pulling against his own audience and potential supporters with the intention of lessening the amounts in their wallets.

            A lot of people have been looked down upon and judged and mistreated at times throughout their lives and unlike David, they do not have a mass following of ‘believers’ giving them cult leader like status, with maturity they learn to stay away from the types of people who abuse others, and Icke is in his 60’s, he is no spring chicken.

            What about the genuine people who have been at the butt end of verbal and psychological abuse of Icke’s inner circle and minions and mods and sycophants?, does it matter not what pain that they may have already endured throughout their lives?? and Icke couldn’t care less about that….. he couldn’t care less…… Icke knows how people are being treated, he has a pattern of cutting people off/ignoring/attacking when people have sought to inform him…..and have informed him…. putting genuine people who have been hurt and misused by those under his authority or by him on the ignore/enemy list.

            David Icke has not exactly been ignored by the MSM, one could say marginalized but he has been given a voice on quite a number of occasions throughout the years in the mainstream media since the Wogan show and who is to say that that was not the beginning of a hidden agenda, his books are being sold to mass audiences through mainstream outlets and corporations.

            David hardly has to be a beggar, he is in a much better position financially and alternative media/MSM wise than the majority (if that is someone’s desire). I don’t think it is a matter of Icke not thinking he can get any better, he surrounds himself by the kinds of people he does because they have common traits with him.

            David has publicly stated that the only reason why Sean is the Director is because he is the Guardian on the Gates of the Ethos, his job being to keep people out who would infiltrate his enterprise and destroy it. That doesn’t sound like someone he has hired and kept and placed in high surface positions because that is the best he could get. He has surrounded himself with the people he has chosen to surround himself with and those people are abusive and manipulative.

            David Icke could retire tomorrow and never work another day in his life, he has said so himself, he shows himself to be the worst kind of hypocrite by the actions he has taken, taking emotional, psychological and financial advantage of those who believe in his message and allowing others to do so as well.

        • mimi said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:22 pm

          Don’t get me wrong though… it is a very good thing that this guy (Michael?) has publicly spoken out, it was very brave of him and his insights give a fuller picture as to what has been going on over there. I think he still wants to believe, or part of him does.. that David can set it all right if he would only stand up and take responsibility, now that the author of the article has spoken out he will soon find out just what David really thinks of him and it will not be good, he will now be on the ‘enemy’ list.

          • Kate said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:29 pm

            We will know what David is made of by how he conduct himself from here. Will he try to maintain the status quo or assume responsibility, as you said, shake things up, and set things right.

        • stephen said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:51 pm

          Agreed regarding Divvie.
          Personally i dont think Divvie Icke would bother to much regarding a member of his team saying i am fcuking that tonight. Divvie has an upside down view upon life like all cult leaders and everything is not as it seems with Icke, he is very devious.
          He is actually very liberated towards sex. Perhaps too liberated. He has had a number of wives so i presume this means he has hurt a number of women. Rather more sickly he seen fit to force one of his wives to endure the pain of having to share the family house with his mistress which is typical of cult leaders with God complexes. The damage done to the family by this evil and selfish man can be seen in the actions of Gareth Icke sticking straws up his arse on youtube. Clearly it is a shallow, tactless and disrespectful act commited by a confused young adult whom does not know what is private and what isn’t due to his upbringing.
          I get the impression of Divvie that if someone where to complain to Divvie about this man and the actions of the media whore then it would actually be the person making the complaint that Divvy would severely repremand telling them it is their religious conditioning (even if they are not religious) that makes them uptight about sex and that they are trouble makers need to expand their awareness.
          I dont think Divvie would even encourage contraception afterall i am certain Ickes attitude to this is that HIV is a hoax.
          Divvie exposes Alleister Crowley as a Satanic beast yet Icke himself promotes the do what thou wilt attitude common among men with brain-damage and is clearly himself a Satanist.
          Divvie exposes religion yet he believes in reptoids, quotes the bible in his books and is clearly a Satanist.
          Divvie exposes the freemasons and their Satanic symbols yet he goes to the Groucho club, lives on freemasonic isle of whyte, uses Satanic symbols more than anyone else on the planet and is clearly Satanist number one. Even more so than Anton Lavey.
          The parallels are endless and confusing.
          Divvie exposes Politicians taking drugs yet Icke takes Ayahusca and believes drugs are medicinal and expand awareness and should be legal.
          This leaves only Paedophilia. Now that we have established that DIVVIE ICKE supports everything he exposes and is a scrupleous bastard this leads to an interesting question?
          What is his agenda regarding kiddy fiddling? is he an advocate of old enough to bleed old enough to breed merely trying to bring the topic to the forefront before beginning to put forward an alternative and more sympathetic angle? I personally think Divvie Icke wants the legal age of consent lowered to that of the vatican which is 12. The age of Mary.

          Did anyone ever see the dirty naked pictures of children Icke posted on his headlines page under the guise of exposing what paedophile rings are posting on the net?
          I personally have never in my life seen images of naked children before.
          It took a guy called David Icke to show me.

          Personally i think the images where sick and he should never have posted them on his forum, he should have been arrested, why wasn’t he?

      • Hector Vector said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:36 pm

        It is now illegal in the SoviICKE Republic to link to that blog or mention the author’s name.

        Links to the blog are censored thus:

        http://**************.blogspot.co.uk

        And mentioning the author got a forum member suspended plus it looks like the author’s name has been eradicated. Forum adviser i_am evidently doesn’t realise that they are making a fin job of showing everybody outside the claque what a corrupt and oppressive little tinpot dictatorship they are running there.

        They are surely in the death throes when they have to resort to such measures.

        • Hector Vector said, on January 21, 2014 at 7:55 pm

          Correction: One mention of the author remains in a post made by the suspended author.

      • mimi said, on January 22, 2014 at 12:39 pm

        Looks like it was Sharon Gifford who is the source of the motherdamnable article.

        • mimi said, on January 22, 2014 at 1:22 pm

          Mother Damnable aka Sharon Gifford is posting in another forum, some of what she has said:

          for what it’s worth I actually think they are getting a lot less in donations than they would have you believe, I know certain people were told last week that the “payroll was frozen” tho true to form that wasn’t for everyone just who they thought they could get away with not paying.

          Trips to New York cost loads, they probably overspent on “jolies” setting this up.

          How much does a producer get paid? Liz Roberts is paid loads, I just used to watch who was turning up in new clothes to see who was getting paid.

          Part of it is the MSM people know that we alternative media are as good if not better than them at media work and are scared of us realizing how pants they are at their “job”.

          But yeah the content so far coulda been produced in anyone’s back bedroom……..it’s embarrassing.

          http://sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/92260-the-people-s-voice.html?start=2460

          • stephen said, on January 26, 2014 at 12:32 pm

            Sanctum zone is probably better than the DIF in that it does not have a figure of authority deciding what conspiracies can be discussed and what conspiracies cannot.
            Also does not have mods that spread their own agendas.
            But i do not find the Sanctum zone a great place for truth either.
            I find they also make a mockery of truth no matter how unintentionally.
            How many times i have visited the Sanctum zone in quest for crucial public opinion regarding serious matters of great importance and left bitterly dissapointed after finding brilliant op’s threads ruined and hijacked by useless and non-sensical bantor among a clique of banned DIF users and those threads get filled with page after page of stupid GIFS and pictures with dozens of pages completely lacking any critical information or serious debate and nothing except post after post of silly smilies or comical figures smoking joints and invariably the threads decend into the owners of the site laughing and joking about what Dawnbreak had for breakfast. Disapointing to say the least.
            They may be right about David Icke. But not number one location for serious debate.

  14. Kevin Kong said, on January 21, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Well the current indiegogo campaign seems to be getting about £1,000 a day which would put the final total about £90,000, which should see the Peoples Voice collapse totally somewhere around the middle to end of March.

  15. Kevin Kong said, on January 21, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    Anyone with a spare 10 grand knocking around can now get some signed editions of the same book that David has been re-releasing every year for god-knows how long now- exclusively signed and with a certificate of authenticity and delivered by secure delivery direct from the lock up garage on the Isle of Wight where they`ve been gathering dust for the past 10 years. But hey, storage space is at a premium these days so take advantage now before they all get pulped.

    “Donated by DAVID ICKE BOOKS – The Ultimate David Icke Collection

    2014 will mark an incredible year for Author and Presenter, David Icke. In October he will be performing his second all day event at London’s Famous Wembley Arena. The Release of his 17th title “The Perception Deception” in early 2014 in which he goes deeper into the rabbit hole than ever before, giving us a much clearer picture of what’s really going on in the world. This one off collection includes 13 titles, “The Biggest Secret”, “I am me, I am Free”, “Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Centre Disaster”, “Remember Who You Are” and of course the book that started everything in 1993 “Truth Vibrations” as well as the latest “The Perception Deception”. “Heal the World”, “Robots Rebellion” “And the truth shall set you free”, “Children of the Matrix”, “Tales from the Time Loop”, “Infinite Love is the only Truth Everything else is Illusion”, “David Icke Guide to the Global Conspiracy”.
    This ULTIMATE COLLECTION also includes : 2 x VIP tickets to David’s live show at London’s Wembley Arena on 25th October, 2014 with access to the Green Room and a meet and greet with David. You can be the only person in the world with this signed collection, you’ll also receive a personal thank you letter from David. “

  16. Kate said, on January 22, 2014 at 1:42 am

    Can someone please tell me what a “media luvvy” is? I have seen this expression around, but am not sure what it means. Is it just the typical mainstream media type of talking head or media groupie or what? Thanks in advance.

  17. Kate said, on January 22, 2014 at 1:54 am

    One silver lining in all of this…look at the kind of people Icke attracts — us! I must say that I am impressed with the integrity, compassion, wisdom, insight, and smarts I have seen on Earthling’s pages. The fact that there are people like you all around demonstrates there is hope for the world yet. You all are incredibly awake and aware.

  18. Babs said, on January 22, 2014 at 9:56 am

    Talking of forums I joined one on Monday called Sanctum Zone whose wording is apparently filtered out on the David Icke forum and if you post the words you get a line of asterisks.

    I started reading a thread on TPV and noted people saying you would get banned from DIF just for posting on SZ!!!! Sure enough after a few posts of mine obviously not in the Reverend Icke’s favour my account at DIF was suspended!!!

    You couldn’t make it up

    Apparently this is not the first time people have been conned out of their money I have learnt so much these past few days if I were a journalist I could write a book

    Ps I got the link I posted from that site as I knew Earthlinggb would like to read it

    • Babs said, on January 22, 2014 at 10:51 am

      About TPV not on

  19. stephen said, on January 22, 2014 at 10:15 am

    I think the most important thing we need to understand is that Icke is not actually exposing the occult for their wrong doing. But he is exposing them for with-holding esoteric knowledge he regardss as the truth and that those secrets should be available for all humanity to practise and enjoy the pleasures of.
    This is why Icke uses the same Satanic symbols he exposes. He is not exposing them for being bad. He simply thinks the elite are keeping sacred knowledge to themselves that everyone should have access to.
    Ultimately Icke is exposing elitests in order to vilify his own Satanism.
    He is not saying ‘guys, look at the evil practises those elite occultists are practising’ he is saying ‘brainwashed sheeple, i am not the only guy practises Satanism, look around you, your very leaders practise it and keep the knowledge to themselves’.
    This brings us to paedophilia. Do you think Icke is against Satanic child abuse? If you read properly between the lines Icke has never said it is a bad thing. Infact Icke is a believer in sex magic. Icke would say it depends what energy is being channeled as to whether it is positive or negative.
    However, even in the case of it being negative energy, it is not evil on part of the Satanists because he already says sexually abused kids are recieving karma for being bad people in previous lives.
    Ladies and gentlemen. Icke is worse than you think.

    • stephen said, on January 22, 2014 at 10:34 am

      A good example of this when Icke exposed Crowley for being a Satanist then later got found to be a follower of Crowley.
      Pure and simple, Icke exposed Crowley for being into Satanic ritual.
      You just assumed from this that Icke was saying he was evil. Ice said no such thing.
      Infact, Crowley is an important man of great significance to Ickes inner core of MODS on the DIF

      • stephen said, on January 22, 2014 at 10:55 am

        Would also like to add that for people may think i am getting all religious i personally do not think any symbol can be Satanic.
        Symbols are just symbols.
        I personally would run around waving satanic salutes. No prooblem. It is meaningless.
        I happen to think symbology is childsplay. It’s immature.
        However i am not the one exposing it as Satanism in my books.
        I hope i am understood.

    • Kate said, on January 22, 2014 at 3:10 pm

      Well, he claims to be of Godhead (which is occult); he and his son are opposed to law/restrictions — which is Satantic — pursue whatever impulse, sensual pleasure you want, manifested in Gareth sticking straws up his bum and sex in pure sight in the TPV newsroom. Lying is also another sign of evil. Satanists proclaim to be God as opposed to worship God (check). They are nasty and will do, say whatever they need to to achieve power/wealth. (check) There is no better to get rich than to have others subsidize your ventures.

      • stephen said, on January 22, 2014 at 5:56 pm

        Funny you mention the law kate.
        You see this afternoon i have been thinking along those lines.
        Icke opposes laws. They are used to enslave us.
        Financially he says they make laws to withhold money from us and keep the money to themselves. (which from one perspective may be true).
        Spiritually drugs are illegal because they increase awareness and they want to keep this knowledge to themselves.
        Anything that is illegal according to Icke is illegal because they are wanting to keep us from something.
        Now this brings me back to paedophilia. Does child ritual abuse just so happen to be the one thing regarding the Satanism that he exposes that he himself does not agree with? is it the one thing he agrees should be illegal?
        Icke answers this when he says we dont need laws, we punich ourselves. Yet he is so confused he also says when we realise we are in control of our own destiny we dont need to punish ourselves because we create our own realities.

        • Kate said, on January 22, 2014 at 7:55 pm

          Right, Stephen. Also laws are the foundation of ethics — thou shall not kill, steal from one’s neighbor, etc. Yes, certain laws oppress. Others enshrine divine order. Satanists believe the laws don’t apply to them. They just use them to oppress their enemeis. I really don’t feel DI is a pedophile. He seems to be disgusted by them and wanting to protect the children. I just don’t understand what men see in children, but then when I was in high school, men 40-90 would beg for dates. Even now, a little order, elderly men somehow think younger women want to touch their liver spotted, translucent, wrinkled skin and saggy, decrepit bodies. Don’t get me wrong, we all age, but don’t they have any self awareness of how trying to become intimate and forge relationships geared at sex with young people must feel to the young. It’s just gross. Yet, somehow the media promotes the idea that women/girls love the security, maturity of old guys and find them incredibly sexy. No, we just think you are old and gross. Leave us alone! LOL. Some will hold their noses and date these creeps anyway for the money, but they still are grossed out. I can’t imagine how poor Catherine Zeta Jones, who is beautiful and in her prime, can handle being fondled by Michael Douglas, who now looks like a corpse. Just read the numberous blogs of females expressing thier disgust at the old foggies trying to pick them up. They are not charming, old men who like the ladies. They are perverts and pathetic. Men, date within your generation. If you are mentally at the age of females decades/generations younger than yourself, then you probably shouldn’t date at all as you are suffering from arrested development or have serious control issues. Probably their elderly female counterparts have their number and don’t want them either.

          • stephen said, on January 22, 2014 at 10:58 pm

            Completely respect your opinion Kate but i am affraid i am somewhat skeptical regarding humans communicating with spirits.
            I personally have no experience whatsoever regarding being contacted by godheads nor do i have any knowledge of what happens in the afterlife and i find it difficult to comprehend how anyone can.
            I am very skeptical of the motives of those that do and i get the impression they are trying to say they are somehow better than me.
            But i just dont see it.
            Icke pisses and shits like me. Is less healthier than me. Is slower than me. Has less stregnth than me. Yet here he is telling me he has an invisible gift that makes him far superior to me, and i just need to take his word for it being true.
            Errr no. His supreme beingness cannot be that impressive if it does not exist outside of his head.

    • Kate said, on January 22, 2014 at 5:01 pm

      David isn’t a pedo nor does he condone it. He has spoken against it. He has gotten into some weird occult stuff, however, and that appears to have sucked him in. Somehow I expect he is a good person at heart who got bad advice or maybe could not see the forest for the trees. That free love hippie stuff probably has more to do with his thumbing his nose at the world. Weird how such a good looking man as David was in his young days gave birth to someone as homely as Gareth, particularly given how beautiful wives her. Gareth looked like a pervert/lost soul.

      • stephen said, on January 22, 2014 at 6:08 pm

        Perhaps i am wrong about the Paedo stuff kate.
        But Icke is so contradictory it is impossible to know for sure.
        All i know is due to his contradictions he cant possibally expect to be taken seriously.
        That is the kindest thing i can say about him.
        I also dont think he is a good man. He clearly tells black lies about being in touch with spirits.
        And also good men dont subject their wives and kids to sharing the family home with the mistress.

        • Kate said, on January 22, 2014 at 8:02 pm

          Stephen — I agree that good men don’t subject their wives and children to mistresses, but if I am not mistaken wasn’t the “wife” a business partner who had divorced him, and the mistress was prospective wife number 2? Still, it’s a very hurtful arrangement. He certainly is a hypocrite. I don’t subscribe to the occult stuff at all. About being in touch with spirits, in his younger days, he has a glow about him, the kind people of faith have, it’s that loving, connection of God. Now I feel he has lost touch with that side of him. He seems very materialistic and analytical now. (God must be seen through the heart and soul, not the mind, our robotic self.) I believe DI is just parroting what occultists have said about reptilians, etc. and wanted to bring that stuff forward. He may have seen shapeshifting when under the influence, of drugs and alcohol.

  20. spartacus said, on January 23, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    Did anyone else think that when they first saw the headline to this piece, that it read “David Icke, HELP! HELP! The retard is on fire? Well i did until i put my glasses on. I was quite sad to find out he had’nt gone up in smoke tbh.


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