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David Icke: Portrait of an emotional blackmailer

Posted in Media by earthlinggb on January 10, 2014

Read and ye shall recognise. Ye with the eyes to see and the mind to interpret.

We don’t need no perception deception! We don’t need no thought control.

No dark sarcasm in the studio. Preacher, leave them folks alone!

“If you don’t donate to christ you will not be raptured”

“If you don’t donate to TPV, then it’s your fault when your children or grandchildren turn to you and say “What were you doing Dad/Mum? You mean you didn’t donate to Sean ADL Tabatabi? Why not?” Reply: “Well calling women slags and smelling like fish, bitches and christians counts, I didn’t think he was too enlightened myself and as for David Icke, I felt emotionally blackmailed like I did when the elite told us climate change was real and we needed to pay our taxes to save the planet.”

“You SELFISH BASTARD!” says Icke.

“You negative vibed git”

“You are ensuring your children and children’s children to a life of hell”

“This is our last chance and if you don’t send that money then you don’t want the chance and you’re part of the problem”

“I WANNA BE THE MESSIAH!”

Before I go on with this cut and paste from a site on Emotional blackmail, I have a word for David Icke and his cronies: You haven’t got a fricking clue who you’re dealing with mate. An amateur actor like you would have the impact of a gnat or mosquito. We all have egos Icke but some of us know how to handle them. We know who and what is important and your perception of me, my friend, is about as important or influential on me as your pathetic KFM groupies, who can’t afford a fricking breakfast without checking the horse racing results, are on Barack Obama. You’re a second hand car salesman Icke. A frightened, cowardly, nothing of a man with one HUGE chip on his shoulder who’s attempting to intimidate a guy who could run fricking rings round you intellectually. If that sounds up my own ass (as I’m sure it will to your little clique) then so be it. You’re a seething little shit of a man desperately trying to be “somebody” and that’s the irony. You still feel like Charlie Smith (or is it Ethel Jones). You KNOW in your own self that that is what you are. You get out in front of your audiences and you suck their energy and that’s your high but still, deep inside, you’re an incompetent little man. Your non comply dance indeed. You’re a compliant, impotent little weed! The sad thing is that you don’t have to be but your ego is desperate for approval.

Emotional Blackmail

What is Emotional Blackmail?

Emotional blackmail is a powerful form of manipulation in which people close to us threaten (either directly or indirectly) to punish us if we don’t do what they want. At the heart of any kind of blackmail is one basic threat, which can be expressed in many different ways: If you don’t behave the way I want you to, you will suffer.

A criminal blackmailer might threaten to use knowledge about a person’s past to ruin her reputation, or ask to be paid off in cash to hide a secret. Emotional blackmail hits closer to home. Emotional blackmailers know how much we value our relationship with them. They know our vulnerabilities. Often they know our deepest secrets. And no matter how much they care about us, when they fear they won’t go their way, they use this intimate knowledge to shape the threats that give them the payoff they want: our compliance.

Knowing that we want love or approval, our blackmailers threaten to withhold it or take it away altogether, or make feel we must earn it. For example, if you pride yourself being generous and caring, the blackmailer might label you selfish or inconsiderate if you don’t accede to his wishes. If you value money and security, the blackmailer might attach conditions to providing them or threaten to take them away. And if you believe the blackmailer, you could fall into a pattern of letting him control your decisions and behavior. We get locked into a dance with blackmail, a dance with myriad steps, shapes and partners.

Emotional blackmailers hate to lose. They take the old adage “It doesn’t matter if you win or lose, its how you play the game”, and turn it on its head to read “It doesn’t matter how you play the game as long as you do not lose.” To an emotional blackmailer, keeping your trust doesn’t count, respecting your feelings doesn’t count, being fair doesn’t count. The ground rules that allow for healthy give-and-take go out the window. In the midst of what we thought was a solid relationship it’s as though someone yelled “Everyone for himself!” and the other person lumped to take advantage of us while our guard was down. Why is winning so important to blackmailers, we ask ourselves. Why are they doing this to us? Why do they need to get their way so badly that they’ll punish us if they don’t?

Blackmail takes two: it is a transaction. Following clarity comes change. It’s easy to focus on other people’s behavior and to think that if they change things will be fine. The change has to begin with the blackmail target. Our compliance rewards the blackmailer, and every time we reward someone for a particular action, whether we realize it or not, we’re letting them know in the strongest possible terms that they can do it again. The price we pay when we repeatedly give in to emotional blackmail is enormous. It eats away at us and escalates until it puts our most important relationships and our whole sense of self-respect in jeopardy.

Part 1: Understanding the Blackmail Transaction What Emotional Blackmailers Do

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  •   Threaten to make things difficult if you don’t do what they want.
  •   Constantly threaten to end the relationship if you don’t give in.
  •   Regularly ignore or discount your feelings and wants.
  •   Tell you or imply that they will neglect, hurt themselves, or become depressed if you don’t do what they want.
  •   Shower you with approval when you give into them and take it away when you don’t.
  •   Use money as a weapon to get their own way.Components of Emotional BlackmailThe issues may differ, but the tactics and actions will be the same, and clearly recognizable.
  1. Demand–someone wants something
  2. Resistance–the other does not feel comfortable with the demand
  3. Pressure –used to make the resistant one give in
  4. Threat –to turn up the pressure
  5. Compliance–on the part of the resistant one
  6. Repetition–this pattern reoccurs in at least other situations (just with a different name)

Examples of Emotional Blackmail

  •   “If I ever see another man look at you I will kill him.”
  •   “If you ever stop loving me I will kill myself.”
  •   “I’ve already discussed this with our pastor/therapist/friends/family and they agree that you are being unreasonable.”
  •   “I’m taking this vacation – with or without you.”
  •   “Your family hates me. How can you say you love me and still be friends with them?”
  •   “You’ve ruined my life and now you are trying to stop me from spending money to take care of myself.”
  •   “I took the money because you always put yourself first and don’t seem to care about my needs.”

The Four Types of Blackmailers
1. Punishers (“If you go back to work, I will leave you”) let us know exactly what they want, and the consequences we’ll face if we don’t give it to them, are the most glaring. They may express themselves aggressively or they may smolder in silence, but either way, the anger is always aimed directly at us. The closer the relationship, the higher the stakes and the more vulnerable we are to punishers. When blackmail escalates, the threatened consequences of not acceding to a punisher can be alarming: abandonment, emotional cutoff, withdrawal of money or other resources. Explosive anger directed at us. And, at the most terrifying extreme, threats of physical harm.

  1. Self-punishers (“Don’t argue with me or I will get sick or depressed”) turn the threats inward threatening what they will do to themselves if they don’t get their way. High drama, hysteria and an air of crisis (precipitated by you, of course) surround self-punishers, who are often excessively needy and dependent. They often enmesh themselves with those around them and struggle with taking responsibility with their own lives. The ultimate threat self-punishers can make is frightening in the extreme: It’s a suggestion that they will kill themselves.
  2. Sufferers are talented blamers and guilt-peddlers who make us figure out what they want, and always conclude that it is up to us to ensure they get it. Sufferers take the position that if they feel miserable, sick, unhappy, or are just plain unlucky, there’s only one solution: our giving them what they want ‘ even if they haven’t told us what it is. They let us know, in no uncertain terms, that if you don’t do what they want, they will suffer and it will be your fault. Sufferers are pre-occupied with how awful they feel, and often they interpret your inability to read their mind as proof that you don’t care enough about them.
  3. Tantalizers put us through a series of test and hold out a promise of something wonderful if we’ll just give them their way. They are the subtlest blackmailers. They encourage us and promise love or money or career advancement, and then make it clear that unless we behave, as they want us to, we don’t get the prize. Every seductively wrapped package has a web of strings attached. Many tantalizers traffic in emotional payoffs, castles in the air full of love, acceptance, family closeness and healed wounds. Admission to this rich, unblemished fantasy requires only one thing: giving in to what the tantalizer wants.

Each type of blackmailer operates with a different vocabulary, and each gives a different spin to the demands, pressure, threats and negative judgments that go into blackmail. There are no firm boundaries between the styles of blackmail, as they can be combined.

Emotions Felt by Victims of Emotional Blackmail

 They feel insecure, unimportant, unworthy and generally bad about themselves.

 They doubt their ideas and needs.

 They feel isolated.
 They may have consistent physical ailments as a result of the stress.

Characteristics of the Victim and Emotional Blackmailer

Victim:

• Constantly seeks approval
• Does their best to avoid anger and keep peace
• Takes the blame for anything that happens to others • Has compassion and empathy
• Tends to feel pity or obligation

• Believes they need to give in because it is the “right thing to do”

• Has self-doubt with no sense of their worth, intelligence or abilities

Emotional Blackmailer:

  • Has great fear of abandonment and deprivation or of being hurt.
  • Feels desperate.
  • Needs to be in control of things.
  • Experiences frequent frustration.
  • Has thought distortions regarding the reasonableness of their demands.

• Has had someone emotionally blackmail them and sees that it works to get them what they want.

A Blinding FOG

Blackmailers create a thick ‘FOG ‘ that obscures their actions. FOG is a shorthand way of referring to Fear, Obligation and Guilt. Blackmailers pump up an engulfing FOG into their relationships, ensuring that we feel afraid to cross them, obligated to give them their way and terribly guilty if we don’t.

Fear, the Real F-Word

Blackmailers build their conscious and unconscious strategies on the information we give them about what we fear. The blackmailers fear of not getting what they want becomes so intense that they become tightly focused, able to see the outcome they want in exquisite detail but unable to take their eyes off the goal long enough to see how their actions are affecting us. At that point, the information they’ve gathered about us in the course of the relationship becomes ammunition for driving home a deal that’s fed on both sides by fear. One of the most painful parts of emotional blackmail is that it violates the trust that has allowed us to reveal ourselves.

Obligation

Often our ideas about duty and obligation are reasonable, and they form an ethical and moral foundation for our lives. Sometimes these are out of balance. Blackmailers never hesitate to put our sense of obligation to the test. Reluctance to break up a family keeps many people in relationships that have gone sour. Most of us have a terrible time defining our boundaries when our sense of obligation is stronger than our sense of self-respect and self-caring; blackmailers quickly learn to take advantage.

Guilt

Guilt is an essential part of being a feeling, responsible person. It’s a tool of conscience, in its distorted form, registers discomfort and self-reproach if we’ve done something to violate our personal or social code of ethics. One of the fastest ways for blackmailers to create undeserved guilt is to use blame, actively attributing whatever upset or problems they’re having to their targets. Once blackmailers see that their target’s guilt can serve them, time becomes irrelevant. There is no statute of limitations. Guilt is the blackmailer’s neutron bomb. It can leave relationships standing, but it wears away the trust and intimacy that makes us want to be with them.

Tools the Emotional Blackmailer Uses to Create FOG

  • Making demands seem reasonable.
  • Making the victim feel selfish.
  • Labeling with negative qualities and connotations.
  • Pathologizing or crazy making.
  • Making a demand that needs an immediate response.
  • Allying themselves with someone of authority or influence i.e. parents, children, mental health professionals, religious leaders etc.
  • Comparing the victim to a person that the victim does not like or is in competition with. Learning the victim’s “triggers”.
  • Assess how much pressure to apply before the victim will give in. Tools of the TradeThe tools are a constant that runs through the endlessly varied scenarios of emotional blackmail, and all blackmailers, no matter what their style, use one or more of them:The SpinBlackmailers see our conflicts with them as reflections of how misguided and off base we are, while they describe themselves as wise and well intentioned. They let us know that they ought to win because the outcome they want is more loving, more open, more mature. Any resistance on our parts is transformed from an indication of our needs to evidence of our flaws. In addition to discrediting the perceptions of their targets, many blackmailers turn up the pressure by challenging or character, motives, and worth. We may be labeled heartless, worthless or selfish in any relationship with a blackmailer, but those labels are especially difficult to withstand when they’re coming from a parent who can wipe out our confidence faster than anyone else.

    Pathologizing

    Some blackmailers tell us that we’re resisting them only because we’re ill or crazy. This is called pathologizing. The experience of being pathologized can be a devastating blow to our confidence and sense of self and is therefore an especially toxic and effective tool.

    Pathologizing often arises in love relationships when there’s an imbalance of desires more love, more time, more attention, more commitment when it’s not forthcoming, he/she questions our ability to love. Like the spin, pathologizing makes us unsure about our memories, our judgments, our intelligence, and our character. With pathologizing the stakes are higher, and can make us doubt our sanity.

Enlisting Allies

When single-handed attempts at blackmail are ineffective, black-mailers call in reinforcements (parents, children, mental health professionals, religious leaders etc.), to make their case for them and to prove that they are right. They may turn to a higher authority such as the bible.

Negative comparisons

Blackmailers often hold up another person as a model, a flawless ideal against which we fall short. Negative comparisons make us feel suddenly deficient. We react competitively.

The Inner World of the Blackmailer

Emotional blackmailers hate to lose. Blackmailers can’t tolerate frustration. To the blackmailer, frustration is connected to deep, resonant fears of loss and deprivation, and they experience it as a warning that unless they take immediate action they’ll face intolerable consequences. These convictions may be rooted in a lengthy history of feeling anxious and insecure. Complementing and reinforcing possible genetic factors are powerful messages from our caretakers and society about whom we are and how we are supposed to behave. Blackmailers believe that they can compensate for some of the frustrations of the past by changing the current reality.

The potential for blackmail rises dramatically during such crises as a separation or divorce, loss of a job, illness and retirement, which undermine blackmailers’ sense of themselves as valuable people. Often people who have had everything and have been overprotected and indulged have had little opportunity to develop confidence in their ability to handle any kind of loss. At the first hint that they might be deprived, they panic, and shore themselves up with blackmail.

Usually blackmailers focus totally on their needs, their desires; they don’t seem to be the least bit interested in our needs or how their pressure is affecting us. They often behave as though each disagreement is the make-or-break factor in the relationship.

Blackmailers frequently win with tactics that create an insurmountable rift in the relationship. Yet the short-term victory often appears to be enough of a triumph ‘ as if there were no future to consider. Most blackmailers operate from an I-want-what-I want-when-I-want it mind-set. Any logic or ability to see the consequences of their actions is obscured by the urgency blackmailers feel to hold on to what they have.

The most important thing to take away from the tour of a blackmailer’s psyche is that emotional blackmailer sounds like it’s all about you and feels like it’s all about you, but for the most part it’s not about you at all. Instead it flows from and tries to stabilize some fairly insecure places inside the blackmailer. Many times it has more to do with the past than the present, and it’s more concerned with filling the blackmailer’s needs than with anything the blackmailer says we did or didn’t do.

It Takes Two

Blackmail cannot work without the target’s active participation. The target gives it permission to occur. You may be aware of the blackmail but feel as though you can’t resist it, because the blackmailer’s pressure sets off almost programmed responses in you, and you’re reacting automatically or impulsively.

Blackmailers may be aware of your hot buttons. Faced with resistance, blackmailers’ fear of deprivation kicks in and they use every bit of information to ensure that they prevail. The protective qualities that we have that open us up to emotional blackmail are:

  • An excessive need for approval.
  • An intense fear of anger.
  • A need for peace at any price.
  • A tendency to take too much responsibility for other people’s lives.
  • A high level of self-doubtWhen kept in balance and alternated with other behavior, none of these styles dooms you to the status of ‘preferred target’ of an emotional blackmailer. Emotional blackmailing takes training and practice. Emotional blackmailers take their cues from our responses to their testing, and they learn from both what we do and what we don’t do.The Impact of BlackmailEmotional blackmail may not be life threatening but it robs us of our integrity. Integrity is that place inside where our values and our moral compass reside, clarifying what right and wrong for us.
  • We let ourselves down.
  • A vicious cycle ensues.
  • Rationalizing and justifying.
  • We may betray others to placate the blackmailer.
  • It sucks the safety out of the relationship.
  • We may shut down and constrict emotional generosity.The impact on our well-being:
  • Mental health
  • Physical pain as a warningPart 2: Turning Understanding into ActionTo change, we need to know what we have to do and then we have to act. If you’re willing to take action now and let your feelings of confidence and competence catch up with you, you can end emotional blackmail.What is Necessary to Stop Emotional Blackmail

    • The victim must begin to look at the situation in a new way.

    • They must detach from their emotions.

    • They must realize that they are being blackmailed and that it is not appropriate for the blackmailer to be treating them in that manner.

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  • They must make a commitment to themselves that they will take care of themselves and no longer allow this abusive treatment.
  • They need to see that a demand is being made on them and that it makes them uncomfortable.
  • They must determine why the demand feels uncomfortable.
  • They must not give into the pressure for an immediate decision.
  • They must set boundaries to be able to take time to consider the situation and to look at all of the alternatives to make the decision.
  • Finally, they must consider their own needs first for a change, in this process. How to Respond to Emotional BlackmailersBelow are some specific ways to answer the most common types of responses. It can’t be emphasized too strongly how important it is to practice saying these statements until they feel natural to you; how to respond to the other person’s catastrophic predictions and threats. Punishers and self-punishers may try pressuring you to change your decision by bombarding you with visions of the extreme negative consequences of doing what you’ve decided to do. It’s never easy to resist the fear that their bleak vision will come to pass, especially when the theme they’re pounding home is “Bad things will happen – and it’ll be your fault.” But hold your ground.
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When they say:

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  •   If you don’t take care of me, I’ll wind up in the hospital/on the street/unable to work.
  •   You’ll never see your kids again.
  •   You’ll destroy this family.
  •   You’re not my child anymore.
  •   I’m cutting you out of my will.
  •   I’ll get sick.
  •   I can’t make it without you.
  •   I’ll make you suffer.
  •   You’ll be sorry.

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  •   That’s your choice.
  •   I hope you won’t do that, but I’ve made mydecision.
  •   I know you’re very angry right now. When you’ve had a chance to think about this, maybe you’ll change your mind.
  •   Why don’t we talk about this again when you’re less upset? Threats/suffering/tears aren’t going to work anymore.
  •   I’m sorry you’re upset.

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Then you say:

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  •   I can’t believe you’re being so selfish. This isn’t like you. You’re only thinking of yourself. You never think about my feelings.
  •   I really thought you were different from the other women/men I’ve been with. I guess I was wrong.
  •   That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
  •   Everyone knows that children are supposedto respect their parents.
  •   How can you be so disloyal?
  •   You’re just being an idiot.

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  •   You’re entitled to your opinion.
  •   I’m sure that’s how it looks to you.
  •   That could be.
  •   You may be right.
  •   I need to think about this more.
  •   We’ll never get anywhere if you keep insulting me.
  •   I’m sorry you’re upset.

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Then you say:

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  •   How could you do this to me (after all I’ve done for you)?
  •   Why are you ruining my life?
  •   Why are you being sostubborn/obstinate/selfish?
  •   What’s come over you?
  •   Why are you acting like this?
  •   Why do you want to hurt me?
  •   Why are you making such a big deal out of this?

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  •   I knew you wouldn’t be happy about this, but that’s the way it has to be.
  •   There are no villains here. We just want different things.
  •   I’m not willing to take more than 50 percent of the responsibility.
  •   I know how upset/angry/disappointed you are, but it’s not negotiable.
  •   We see things differently.
  •   I’m sure you see it that way.
  •   I’m sorry you’re upset.

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Handling Silence

But what about the person who blackmails through anger that is expressed covertly through sulks and suffering? When they say nothing, what can you say or do? For many targets, this silent anger is far more maddening and crazy than an overt attack. Sometimes it seems as if nothing works with this kind of blackmailer, and sometimes nothing does. But you’ll have the most success if you stick to the principles of non-defensive communication and stay conscious of the following do’s and don’ts.

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In dealing with silent blackmailers, DON’T:

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DO use the following techniques:

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  •   Expect them to make the first step toward resolving the conflict.
  •   Plead with them to tell you what’s wrong.
  •   Keep after them for a response (which willonly make them withdraw more).
  •   Criticize, analyze or interpret their motives, character or inability to be direct.
  •   Willingly accept blame for whatever they’re upset about to get them into a better mood.
  •   Allow them to change the Subject.
  •   Get intimidated by the tension and angerin the air.
  •   Let your frustration cause you to make threats you really don’t mean (e.g., “If you don’t tell me what’s wrong, I’ll never speak to you again”).
  •   Assume that if they ultimately apologize, it will be followed by any significant change in their behavior.
  •   Expect major personality changes, even if they recognize what they’re doing and are willing to work on it. Remember: Behavior can change. Personality styles usually don’t.

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  •   Remember that you are dealing with people who feel inadequate and powerless and who are afraid of your ability to hurt or abandon them.
  •   Confront them when they’re more able to hear what you have to say. Consider writing a letter. It may feel less threatening to them.
  •   Reassure them that they can tell you what they’re angry about and you will hear them out without retaliating.
  •   Use tact and diplomacy. This will reassure them that you won’t exploit their vulnerabilities and bludgeon them with recriminations.
  •   Say reassuring things like “I know you’re angry right now, and I’ll be willing to discuss this with you as soon as you’re ready to talk about it,” Then leave them alone. You’ll only make them withdraw more if you don’t.
  •   Don’t be afraid to tell them that their behavior is upsetting to you, but begin by expressing appreciation. For example: “Dad, I really care about you, and I think you’re one of the smartest people I know, but it really bothers me when you clam up every time we disagree about something and just walk away is hurting our relationship, and I wonder if you would talk to me about that.”
  •   Stay focused on the issue you’re upset about.
  •   Expect to be attacked when you express a grievance, because they experience your assertion as an attack on them as an attack on them.
  •   Let them know that you know they’re angry

 

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and what you’re willing to do about it. For example: “I’m sorry you ‘re upset because I don’t want your folks to stay with us when they’re in town, but I’m certainly willing to take the time to find a nice hotel for them and maybe pay for part of their vacation.”

  •   Accept the fact that you will have to make the first move most, if not all, of the time.
  •   Let some things slide

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(This review is based on the book: “Emotional Blackmail” by Susan Forward, Ph.D. The author is an internationally acclaimed therapist, lecturer, and author.)

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  1. Simon Whiteside said, on January 10, 2014 at 8:02 am

    Somehow this comes to mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw

  2. Dharmabro said, on January 10, 2014 at 9:09 am

    The People’s Money

  3. stephen said, on January 10, 2014 at 10:16 am

    Have decided to build a nuclear bunker due to the imminent nuclear threat espoused by Icke and Jones. My mission is to turn it into an underground city capable of saving humanity. My mission is noble and heroic. I have already dug a hole for myself but if you want to save your grand children you must send me £100pw so i can build more tunnels and rooms. If you dont send me £100pw then you are a parasite and have no empathy and your grandchildren will die. You are a bad person.

  4. Predrag said, on January 10, 2014 at 10:31 am

    The constant noise from intellectual ghetto that is The Peoples Voice about “outside forces attacking TPV”, is laughable, if not tragic. “We are under attack…”, you want to laugh because why would TPTB attack TPV when TPV seems to be doing a fine job of sabotaging itself.

    If you look at how David Icke and Richie Allen conducted themselves over Poultongate, it reminds me of a student channel, completely amateurish and farcical. It’s sad because many can see they are in their own bubble. This is reflected on the mediocre content they are pumping out. It’s like a crap version of the BBC. No wonder people aren’t watching it. Maybe that was David’s master plan.

    TPV = Lord of the Flies.

    It is not a voice of the people. Not even close.

    • Kate said, on January 10, 2014 at 6:53 pm

      It might have worked if they focused on news and producing content instead of the porno, psychics, dietary stuff, etc. Does the survival of the world depend upon knowlege of GMO corn or the fact that psychics exist and that human consciousness can be expanded with drugs and/or meditation? They spread themselves too thin and wound up with nothing.

  5. Tom said, on January 10, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    “Emotional Blackmail” by Susan Forward, Ph.D….One of the best books Ive read in the last 10 years, fully recommend it.

  6. Kate said, on January 10, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    I lost all respect for David Icke when he posted on his site yesterday a blog smearing Earthling, naming his real legal name and smearing his character. The difference between David Icke and Earthling is that DI is a public person. He has put his name out there, setting himself up for others to comment on them. What David did is retaliate against a private citizen who runs a critical blog.

    How is this different than Obama sending the IRS after his enemies? David is no different or better than the people he criticizes.

    I would have had more respect for David if he had written a respectful reply on Earthling’s blog or ignored him altogether…or simply addressed the growing concerns of the people.

    Instead he attacks.

    Whatever happened to the DI who appeared on the Terry Wogan Show? You know, the bright eyes young man who laughed when the world laughed at him and said something to the effect of “More laughter is good as we can’t have too much joy in the world.”

    The DI now bears no resemblace to that spiritually aware man and appears to have become a mad egotist and as insane as Alex Jones. Perhaps he things by being a nasty, angry, vindictive AJ character, he will increase his following.

    Emotional blackmail is just one of the issues. He’s an insecure, vindictive little man who throws stones at his critics.

    • earthlinggb said, on January 10, 2014 at 5:40 pm

      Very correct Kate (VERY correct). The legal name I use is a PRIVATE citizen. David Icke, Sonia Poulton and all those others including “KFM” are PUBLIC personas. Even though some are their real legal names, they put themselves out on show to the public. Earthlinggb is a PUBLIC persona. It is Earthlinggb which is criticising and not the legal fictional name. It may just be that these people have recognised that and I sincerely hope they have. It would be sound practice for them to do so I assure them. It is one of the primary reasons that “Earthlinggb” exists. Ask Ken Clarke: “Did you attend Bilderberg in your private or public capacity?
      This is precisely what I mean when I say things like “You don’t know who you are dealing with Icke” and “I’m perhaps just a little ‘smarter’ than you!”

      • Kate said, on January 10, 2014 at 6:32 pm

        Yes, and you probably realize that you could sue for slander and win. Would be a shame if you wound up collecting from TPV’s charitable contributions lol.

      • Kate said, on January 10, 2014 at 6:50 pm

        You know, the fact that DI doesn’t realize he has just set himself up for liability and doesn’t understand that he has just slandered a private citizen (in retaliation) reflects how daft, reckless, irresponsible, and unprofessional their operation is, not to mention the horrible PR fiasco. Does he really think he is scoring points for attacking a blogger? He is doing far more damage than he realizes.

        • russ hook said, on January 11, 2014 at 2:22 am

          Hi Kate, “there is no such thing as bad publicity….except for their own obituary.” There is an endless supply of suckers out there! They are called VOTERS! lol Icke has a God-like status, and can do no wrong now! If anyone has any doubt how corrupt he is, just try posting any profound truth on his forum that that POS Sean TeleTUBBY runs! I was banned from that rat-hole, which is rife with SATANISTS, JEWS, Freemasons, and other LYING TRASH, years ago along with many other profound truthers who know about the JEW World ODOR. I think Icke, and AJ are MK’d SLEEPERS. Having spent many years researching MK Ultra mind control, it is easier for me to spot a victim and their MPD symptoms, but I have to spend some time with them. Icke is very good at communicating and just as good at covering up his LIES. The only time I saw him cower was when that MK Jesse Ventura intimidated Icke. I think it’s on Joutube somewhere. What has the world come to when rasslers, body-builders (Arnie), and actors (Reagan) become Governors, and Presidents. What ALL 3 have in common is they are all MK’d robots/puppets, who have ZERO free will. They are a big part of the ILLusion the NW0 manufactures.Earthliggb has a short video on another blog of the “Body Snatchers” ending. It is an example of “Art imitating life”. except the JWO isn’t snatching bodies, but snatching the MINDS of the sheeple.

      • Will said, on January 10, 2014 at 8:04 pm

        Brave words, but don’t forget the David Icke curse. If you are a “truther” and take him on the karma cost can be high. Three prominent critics died after publicly criticising him, a webmaster for one of his critics murdered, a number of other critics have tv/radio shows cancelled after saying the the wrong thing, icke won his civil case against his US book distributor ( with hefty damages around the million mark, don’t know how much was ever paid though) who was then imprisoned for tax evasion ( Icke has claimed the last one as karma). Correlation is not causation, and there is no evidence whatsoever to personally implicate Icke, But if Goldenprince is actually right about Icke being used by darker forces (though I think it unlikely , but that should not stop people from building a circumstantial case if they are so inclined) then one should take care…

        • Kate said, on January 10, 2014 at 9:43 pm

          I remember DI saying somerhing about his colleague plagiarising from him — an odd allegation considering that DI plagiarizes so much from others.

          His “Godhead” ethic – traces to Satanic/Luciferian occult black magic. I don’t know much about that, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a connection because a.) he’s very vindictive; b.) if it’s possible to exact some sort of karma retribution through the spiritual realm, he would.

          F. Scott Peck wrote a book, The People of the Lie which describes the nature of evil. He advised — don’t take on evil people unless you are prepared to go all the way as they are incredibly difficult to defeat. They suck the life force of people of the light and are massively powerful energetically. They are characterized by “death,” in that they try to kill the spirit, life force of others.

          If David is truly an evil man — say if he got caught upon in demonology on his quest for truth – he may have some abiliites. He’s dangerous. He’s acting like a tin pot dictator. Who knows what he’s capable of. Until recently, I wasn’t aware of his dark side. He’s frightening.

          • spartacus said, on January 11, 2014 at 5:51 pm

            Dont worry Kate, he is hardly Kim Jong wrong un, but i am sure he would love to be. He does look possesed though lol. but i just think he is being eaten up by his own anger. I would bet a lot of money that Icke is still pathalogically angry about his wogan experience etc, and things that happened in his youth.

            • earthlinggb said, on January 11, 2014 at 6:00 pm

              I’d very much second that statement Spartacus. It is clear to see the raging that goes on JUST beneath the surface (and sometimes not even hidden!)

        • russ hook said, on January 11, 2014 at 2:48 am

          Tnx Will, This is just more eviDENSE lol that Icke is Con-Op. Plus now he is playing at ESTABLISHMENT venues that banned him in the beginning. Being ‘persecuted’ is all a charade/ILLusion kind of like the Sandy Hook False Flag,for Behavior Modification. (In Icke’s case, to get sympathy from the pubics). Royal Adams was taken down by the JCN (Rothschild’s Jewish Criminal Network) who own the IRS and pretty much everything else. Income tax was never enacted in LAW over here, I am not sure about the jUK. The sheeple PAY out of FEAR.

          • Will said, on January 11, 2014 at 6:08 am

            Icke claimed that Adams imprisonment, the bankruptcy of Bookworld Distributors and the liquidation of Thelen Reid & Priest LLP, one of the US law firms that Icke had engaged in his original complaint, was all “instant karma” all for taking too much of David Icke’s money in one way or the other.

            The “instant karma” claim was in made in the following issue of Icke’s newsletter in 2010:

            https://thefreepenguin.net/DavidIckeNewsletters/The%20Slow%20One%20Now%20Will%20Later%20Be%20Fast%20…%20The%20First%20One%20Now%20Will%20Later%20Be%20Last%20-%20David%20Icke%20Website.pdf

            Royal Adams’ prison sentence was announced by by Catherine Hanaway, the US Attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri; Hanaway had been appointed to that position by President George W. Bush in 2005. In 2009 Hanaway became a partner in the Ashcroft Group; Chairman John Ashcroft. Yes, that John Ashcroft, Bush’s first Attorney-General, described by Icke in his book Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster as “the freedom-destroying Attorney General, who has seized on the deaths of thousands in New York and Washington to cast aside basic human freedoms” (p.135).

            But there’s nothing to see here of course, move on, these are are just “childish” “smears” and “innuendo”, to use the words that David Icke used to describe Sonia Poulton’s claims. Though surely not a bit like calling people “Rothschild Zionists” without providing any evidence of their either their Zionism or their connections (if any) to the Rothschilds…

            I have a detailed article I’ve been sitting on which explores in further detail these issues, in particular Icke’s words about “karma” and claims that a mysterious “they” are “protecting” him. Perhaps this is now the time…?

    • spartacus said, on January 11, 2014 at 5:07 pm

      Kate, i dont believe Icke has changed at all. He has always been an insecure, vindictive little man, and the real Icke was there all along imho. The only change i can see is his branching out into the merchandise market. He will probably be selling water filters next.

  7. cheryl Monti said, on January 10, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    I too listened to David Icke when he attacked Mark and Sonia and at the time knew nothing about what had gone on. After hearing him I felt like I myself had done something wrong and had to try to put it right. Fortunately I began to dig a bit and came across this site. What a relief. I’ve had my eyes opened and I have been built up by reading the comments from others. But I still feel a bit bad because even though I know I’ve done nothing wrong, it was emotional blackmail, it hasn’t completely gone. Thank you for this site as it helps to know that what I am thinking is ok and others are thinking the same.

    • earthlinggb said, on January 10, 2014 at 5:43 pm

      Cheryl, consider this because this is what it is: Emotional blackmail against people is effectively a legal tort. One is committing a wrong on another and, in this case, it is a form of social/emotional coercion.

    • spartacus said, on January 11, 2014 at 5:00 pm

      Cheryl, dont feel bad, that is what Icke and his cronies want. You have done absolutely nothing wrong. These psychological ploys are very strong, all the conmen use them.

  8. pepijn71 said, on January 10, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Why shoot the messenger? Ok Tpv uses a lot of dramatic music , an almost crying mr Icke and yes he’s absolute dramatising the Poulton case but what about the content of Tpv then? I mean chemtrails, banking, the birthcertificate in relation to you as a natural person, pedofile elite networks (we got a bad case here in Holland all the way to the royal fam and high officials) .
    For me (from the outside looking in) it looks promising and real.
    I think mr Icke is a good pr man, for outside the uk he’s internationally known.
    Can’t you see Tpv seperate from Icke and Sean adl?
    For me I don’t want to know what Richie says in the office, they under a lot of pressure and please thee who never cursed throw the first stone.
    This is bigger than money, what about a debate between Icke and Earthlinggb.
    Stay sharp!

    • earthlinggb said, on January 10, 2014 at 5:26 pm

      I agree with you Pepijn regarding the real info they are putting out there. However, it is being put out there by a myriad of sources which anyone anywhere can find if they wish to take 2 mins to look.
      The real issue is the transparency and why exactly they have set this station up. It is a very real concern.

      • Kate said, on January 10, 2014 at 6:34 pm

        Correct. He basically reposts what others have said and is sharing information that is already out there and being disseminated widely. DI offers nothing new.

        • Will said, on January 10, 2014 at 7:43 pm

          TPV is a content aggregator. But chemtrails etc as “real info?” Bah!

  9. Faro said, on January 10, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    Remember! If you do not donate to TPV and it fails, the human race is doomed!

    • Crystali said, on January 10, 2014 at 9:45 pm

      And… … If you are not raptured, there’s no refund! :p

  10. Steve said, on May 3, 2014 at 11:51 pm

    In addition to the thought-provoking article (and follow-up comments), please always remember that the real conperson behind all of this is the ego, and the physical conmen (and women) you see, are simply victims themselves, to the ego. The ego’s knowledge of evil rubs off onto them, and they become what they once hated (through allowing hate/lust for money/power etc to overpower them).

    Cheers.


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