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David Icke: The “explanation” and ONE question David. Just one!

Posted in Finance, Media by earthlinggb on January 9, 2014

On today’s “show” with Richie Allen explaining the transparency situation (or total lack thereof, while you are then going to have a TPV employee provide the “evidence” of the ins and outs – while there is no legal requirement for her to do that so, even if bullshit, there’s no legal implications because it is not what TPV are producing for the authorities – but let’s ignore all that) you mentioned David, that you have nothing to do with TPV and are not a Director. But why did you start off as one and then remove yourself when it got “hot” with OFCOM? 😉 However, again that is an aside – there are SO many issues David and your little faked display of emotion and being attacked from the outside by people who don’t want the info out there (What info? I’ll give Sonia this – but not much – she was the hardest hitting person in there and while she has an ego and while she is a bit on the bolshy and feminist side (as I read her), she was, of all you, the most outspoken and ready to take anyone on – she has 100x more “balls than you do Icke, I’ll give her that) was just that, a “show”. You’re damned lucky you have an audience who can’t read fake a mile off. But then when they believe in reptilians what does one expect? Seriously!

But here’s the question David: You’re no longer a Director, the little “slag, fish and christian cunts and f*** off bitch” Sean is (incredible how so called people believing in love, light and infinite consciousness can totally ignore this little sleaze bag’s language just because he’s your bum chum. I mean people are actually throwing money at a guy who is blatantly coming out with this stuff)

BUT WHO IS THE SINGLE (or dual?) SHAREHOLDER(S) IN THE PEOPLE’S VOICE PRIVATE COMPANY LIMITED?

You see David? You WERE a Director but in your explanation today, you weren’t forthcoming with that information and, therefore, did not explain why you were and are not now? While you dropped the Directorship precisely on 23rd October 2012 when you applied for the OFCOM licence. Every piece of info you have provided your audience, every shred of “transparency” has not come without it being dragged and ripped out of you. Just like the £20K. You don’t offer info, you begrudgingly give it when the shouts get too loud. Even then, you don’t give the full story. You leave little bits out (which really are not little at all). People can read you like a book Icke. Not your core cult of course, but everyone else. I never laughed at you at Wogan because I hadn’t even heard of you until around 2008/2009. I laugh at the gullibility of your audience but I don’t laugh at you (well perhaps a little I have to admit) I recognise you for what you are and one doesn’t laugh at conmen.

People's Voice 6

Now what about that question that you really do keep avoiding David about the shareholding:

TPV share capital

Now please let’s not play games and silly buggers David. I realise there are many people out there who wouldn’t know the first thing about how shareholding works but I’m not one of them. The business has share capital. The business must have people who own that share capital. They are called “shareholders”. And please don’t go down the route of saying “Ok, yes they hold £10 of share capital, big deal” because you know it’s a big deal David. The PEOPLE would like to know simply who owns that £10 (whatever it is) worth of share capital. Why is this so difficult for you David? Isn’t this precisely the hidden tactics the very people who control the world’s corporations use? Yes, I do believe it is. But you’re not one of them are you David? You’re MISTER TRANSPARENCY!

Is it, perchance, the same shareholder of David Icke Books Ltd (of which you are neither a Director any longer – so then it’s obvious one does not need to be a Director to be in control and making the money – precisely the issue which arises when people say the Rothschilds are not directors of this that or the other Corporation or Bank then isn’t it?). David, tell me, do you think all the people who know of you or have read some of your stuff are that dumb man? Could it be that a conversation I had personally with Sean in the early days and the competence shown in the very short time I could stand your bullshit and your team’s bullshit, was just not the kind of competence you were looking for and you thought ‘maybe just a little too switched on for our liking’? Go for it son if you want to – take every swipe you want Davey.

Just tell the people. Show them the Memorandum of Association and Articles of Incorporation of the Private Limited Company by shares and show them who owns those shares (par value £10? maybe?) Just show them who owns them!

I KNOW you don’t need to make any income from the company David. How long has Sean worked for you now while only now, as you say, he is working elsewhere too to make ends meet. What about the years before that while working for you? You’re telling your audience that you paid him for work on the David Icke website and the moderation job (and “Guardian of all that is Icke” – what is he? Your illegitimate son? Your bum chum? He’s not that bright David so tell me, what is he? What’s he got on you?) but you’re not paying him now? He’s spent years with you now Davey. What has he lived on? Yet you’re telling the world that, while he is the star of it all and worked his little ass off (mein kampf? No yours babes) on TPV, it is only now he can’t afford to feed himself and yet he is the sole director of the entire company?

There’s a saying by the Scots David (while I am an earthling and only an earthling. I thought you’d understand that of all people?): “I wasn’t brought up the Clyde on a scooter!”

So by all means, you show the “ins and outs” all well massaged Davey (why don’t you have Ernst & Young do them for you? lol) but give your cult ONE more fundamental piece of information: WHO IS/ARE THE SHAREHOLDERS OF TPV PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY?

Now, for anyone who is interested:

The People’s Voice has no subsidiary companies (it is not a “parent” company of other companies which would then report their financials to the parent company) BUT – and this is ONLY a conjecture, I freely admit that – what IF TPV Limited IS a subsidiary company itself?

If that turned out to be the case then WHO is the parent company? The Parent company need not even be listed in the sense it could be an offshore “shelf company”. But do you believe that David Icke has handed entire control, directorship and shareholding to a little jerk like Sean ADL Tabatabai? Do you? Really? If you do Terry, I have a nice seafront bungalow you might like in Birmingham!

Look at the audit thresholds. TPV would be exempt. Far less than 50 employees (they want volunteers don’t they?) and gross assets £3.26M? With £20K spent on all that outdated Teddington equipment? Gross assets, once depreciation is taken into account will be pretty damned negligible). No “turnover” as such but your donations are actually considered income as would sponsorship and advertising money but it’s looking doubtful they would have a turnover of £6.5M a year and they only have to meet two out of the three criteria anyhow. IF it is a subsidiary that is…..

The Companies and Limited Liability Partnerships (Accounts and Audit Exemptions and Change of Accounting Framework) Regulations 2012 (SI 2012/2301) amends the Companies Act 2006 so that it aligns mandatory audit thresholds with accounting thresholds, exempts certain subsidiary companies from mandatory audit and dormant subsidiaries from preparing and filing accounts.

It also makes it easier for companies who currently use IFRS voluntarily to switch from IFRS to UK GAAP when preparing their accounts.

Date published: 6 September 2012

Effective date: accounting periods ending on or after 1 October 2012

Access the legislation The Companies and Limited Liability Partnerships(Accounts and Audit Exemptions and Change of Accounting Framework) Regulations 2012.

Audit thresholds

Audit thresholds for small companies have been aligned with accounting thresholds for small companies. Small companies will therefore be entitled to an exemption from mandatory audit if they meet two out of the three mandatory criteria:

  • No more than 50 employees;
  • No more than gross assets of £3.26 million;
  • Less than £6.5 million in turnover.

Audit exemptions for subsidiaries

Subsidiaries will be exempted from mandatory audit if it fulfils all of the following conditions:

(a) its parent undertaking is established under the law of an EEA state;
(b) the company’s shareholders must unanimously agree to dispense with an audit in the financial year in question;
(c) the parent must give a statutory guarantee of all the outstanding liabilities to which the subsidiary is subject at the end of the financial year;
(d) the company must be included in the consolidated accounts drawn up by the parent undertaking, which must be prepared in accordance with Directive 83/349/EEC (the Seventh Company Law Directive);
(e) the use of the exemption by the subsidiary must be disclosed in the notes on the consolidated accounts drawn up by the parent;
(f) the following documents must be filed by the directors of the subsidiary at Companies House on or before the date that they file the subsidiary’s accounts:
i. written notice of the agreement in (b);
ii. a statement by the parent that it guarantees the subsidiary company under the particular section of the Act;
iii. a copy of the consolidated report and accounts referred to in (d) and the auditor’s report on those accounts;
(g) the company is not quoted within s385(2) of the Companies Act (“the Act”;
(h) it is not an authorised insurance company, a banking company, an e-Money issuer, a MiFID investment firm or a UCITS management company, or carries on insurance market activity; and
(i) it is not a trade union or an employer’s association.

A further 67,000 dormant subsidiary companies will be exempted from the requirement to prepare and file accounts if they fulfil these conditions. An annual return will still be required to be filed at Companies House.

Dormant subsidiaries

Dormant subsidiary companies will be exempted from the requirement to prepare and file accounts if they fulfil these conditions above. An annual return will still be required to be filed at Companies House.

http://www.icaew.com/en/technical/financial-reporting/other-reporting-issues/companies-act/audit-exemptions-and-change-of-accounting-framework

But lastly, to repeat: £20K for the equipment. David in his “explanation” video says he put his own money into buying equipment. What was it David? £20K for the equipment we know about? Or £150 for an IPOD?

Not only does David Icke Books Limited have £104,000 cash at bank – I’ll repeat that: CASH AT BANK! but we also have a little known company which David is the sole director of, called “Lion’s Epoch” which has £83K CASH AT BANK!

Now, going back to school for a moment, that makes £187K CASH IN BANK for the companies David Icke owns/controls outwit TPV. IF he had spent £20K of that cash for the equipment needed (as he told you all it was really expensive stuff and he needed £100K then £300K when, strangely, he had £187K of his own money in the bank – and we’re not even looking at his own PERSONAL bank balances and investments), he would have been left with £167K CASH AT BANK! Still a handsome sum of cash don’t you think? If I had that sort of money and I truly believed in what I was doing and KNEW what I was doing, I would have sank my own £20K for the equipment – I’ve made far worse investments than that with £20K I can assure you but at least I learned from them. But he came to YOU saying how desperately they needed the £300K for, substantially, the equipment and boy did they keep driving the “tremendous cost” of equipment and the quality of it when – and please do not fall for this “we did not know there was £20K of equipment at Teddington until later” because, if you do, you’re simply an idiot and deserve being fleeced, sorry – he could have went to either of the company’s banks and withdrew it without sniffing (well that might be hard in David’s case I suppose).

Lion's epoch

“Adult and other education”???? I thought his books were meant to be educational? lol

So what could this be?

Ah! I know. It could be collaboration with Daryl Hall & John Oates…..

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  1. Simon Whiteside said, on January 9, 2014 at 8:40 am

    I wonder why they didn’t make tpv a “company limited by guarantee” – which is the standard structure for a non-profit. It wouldn’t have to be a charity or face the restrictions David mentions. It just means there are no shareholders.
    Another slightly off-putting thing is that if David is a shareholder but not a director, in fact he is in control and owns the company, but is not liable legally if it is mismanaged financially.

  2. John said, on January 9, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Posted on Icke’s Youtube Response video, comments from Icke the younger:

    “Gareth Icke
    5 minutes ago

    Explained the situation perfectly. Some folks on here aren’t happy about that, but then you can’t please the unpleasable.

    As for the constant bollocks about him ‘promoting my career’, I would love to know how.

    I’m a volunteer. I don’t get paid. I’m not allowed to promote my own music on the show (my own decision) and in the 6 weeks its been running, I have been forced to cancel a tour of the Scottish Islands and of the czech Republic while I got this off the ground.

    So for those faceless commentators that spout that line… you really must try harder.”

    I bet earthling regrets publishing this article now 😉

    (for the benefit of the icke zombies, I’m being sarcastic)

    • stephen said, on January 9, 2014 at 11:47 am

      I think you are behind on the times.
      This video was addressed last night and it implicates David Icke does not vindicate him.
      It exposes him beyond doubt as a man that tells lies.
      Once a lie has been told one must ask why he is lying. Is it for fraudulant purposes?
      Icke is now driving for £400k while at the sametime as accepting donations is threatening TPV may close end of January.
      He now also has the perfect get out clause as he is now claiming much of the money lost was his own money.
      You need to stop listening to the tone of his voice and begin understanding the more indepth and longterm implications of his words and learn to pick up on lies.
      Lies are unacceptable.

      You cancelled a tour of Scotland and Czech republic? lol

  3. stephen said, on January 9, 2014 at 10:25 am

    If David Icke did indeed plow his own money in then he actually told a black lie in his videos when he told people all this money was coming from public donations.
    Why would he do this? to make himself look more popular perhaps? because he knows that by making it appear hundreds of thousands of people are supporting this venture more will follow suit.
    But this then is deciet. He has then taken the money of a few loonies on the DIF under the pretence they are donating to a highly supported campaign when infact it is just David Icke and a few eejits.
    The man lied. The end.

  4. stephen said, on January 9, 2014 at 10:30 am

    Or, he could be lying about having plowed his own money in, but either way he lied.
    He cannot be being honest on both fronts now, can he?
    I challenge Crystali to defend him on this.

    • Crystali said, on January 9, 2014 at 6:00 pm

      I’m not being funny, but I really don’t give a shit about David Icke, and why would I defend him, I have never followed him to like his work enough to defend it or him. I do have compassion however, but that is me, that is the function of my personality, I don’t need to defend for the sake of it.
      If he has dug himself a big hole then he’s going to fall in, that’s of his own making, but I won’t condemn him, I would offer a hand to help him up out of it whether he deserves it or not, that’s just me.
      This forum has called him out, and obviously on grounds that the man is not necessarily a charlatan or a crook (who knows), it might just be a case that after all is said and done, he is not as smart as he makes out and is just a little foolish and lacks foresight and hindsight.
      If a man sees a way of making a few bucks, then he will do it, but yes, it is totally wrong of him to deceive the people that support him, to tell them one thing and use slight of hand and hope no one notices, so yes, in that hole he will fall, compassion or not, I will not defend that.

      I am not defending him, why would you think I would?
      Please don’t confuse my compassion with stupidity and blind defence on those grounds.

      Not really a challenge, but thanks for asking. 🙂 😉

      • earthlinggb said, on January 9, 2014 at 6:14 pm

        Crystali, believe it or not, I entirely agree with you. I may be blunt in how I put things but I hold quite firmly to the same ethos.

  5. stephen said, on January 9, 2014 at 10:41 am

    Also donators need to know exactly how much David is claiming he plowed in.
    Because if he plowed in the majority then it would look more and more like his effort which would mean it is HIS show.
    HAHAHAHA David Icke is totalitarian tiptoeing towards claiming the money came from him HAHAHA.
    What a smack in the face for donators.
    A high five for the Ickester though. N1. A masterclass in the arts of conmanship.
    Differs, do you feel it? can you feel it twisting? HAHAHA Ughhhhhh

  6. stephen said, on January 9, 2014 at 11:00 am

    So a big thanks to David Icke for buying the equipment with his own money then?
    Donators. Do you not see it? he is stealing your fire.
    Please wake up.

    http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/

  7. Edward said, on January 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    From TPV subsidiaries to ISLE OF WIGHT SPORT LIMITED, David Icke certainly has the kind of accountant who likes to use the vagaries of companies house to keep vague trails of vague incomes.

    It’s one of the many oddities of Mr Ickes life and times that would usually be ripped apart by so called ‘truth’ investigators.

    Keep on keeping on earthling.

  8. stephen said, on January 9, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    So many questions arrising in my head regarding Ickes recent claims to having used his own money.
    If indeed he did use his own money while still being able to blow £20k on a lavish Californian holiday while paying £1000pm rent on a flat in Islington while mentaining a £145k home in Rhyde just after returning from an extended vacation in Peru., what was all this nonsense before TPV started about him living out a humble and modest existence?
    Sorry, but Icke is far removed from reality if he thinks this is a modest existence.
    He also tells endless lies

  9. TheEqualiserUK said, on January 9, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    Anyone else spot the edit in the Icke ‘explanation’ Video at about 30:06 ?

    Even looks to me like they tried as much as possible to disguise the edit.
    I think telling this edit appears to happen just as David Icke was seemingly going
    to go into more detail about meeting between them and Sonia Poulton on Monday 🙂

    When combned the ‘crash’ of TPV systems yesterday afternoon thereby avoiding
    doing this interview live and a live phone in soon after ,
    I think it raises many further questions about what is going on at TPV.

    Great article as always Earthling. Keep up the good work over these matters !
    I was going to raise the issues regarding Company law/accounts and how little
    needs to be public as a Small Company like TPV and when it needs to be filed etc
    if no one else did.. Especially so after seeing attempts by certain people on DIF to in
    my opinion mislead people about it in the hopes of heading off providing
    financial information now.

    I had stopped commenting for a while about TPV waiting to see what the next twist
    in the saga would be. I expected something like this to happen but not as soon, but
    when I saw the second telethon scheduled on the 3rd January with them trying to raise
    another £400k in donations I thought trouble would quickly ensue. Many that donated
    initially have complained from early on about lack of transparency about the finances
    and lack of feedback from TPV if they contacted them even when offering help etc,
    To then start another fundraiser within 6 weeks after launch asking for another £400k
    of donations in that climate was in my opinion asking for trouble and they sure have
    trouble now it appears, admittedly not quite the way I expected but same end result.

    • earthlinggb said, on January 9, 2014 at 2:25 pm

      Yes I did see the edit Equaliser and I concur with your analysis. The thing is that when you’ve seen how they work for your own eyes then nothing is a surprise anymore mate. Those who have not experienced them all personally, one to one, will not fully recognise this. That’s why I keep saying I wanted to be involved and also wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. Until you get face to face, yes you can pick up anomalies etc but you can’t “feel’ him if you know what I mean?

      • TheEqualiserUK said, on January 9, 2014 at 10:05 pm

        Yes totally understand what you mean Earthling.

        BTW some later post Ive made under other blog entries have been caught by Spam filters for moderation I assume 😉

        • earthlinggb said, on January 9, 2014 at 10:09 pm

          I’m checking and approving them now. I don’t understand why. I see a few more here and there were “moderated” too. Sorry about that it’s not me.

  10. Helen said, on January 9, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    2 £1 shares 1 held by Sean and 1 by David. The certicate of incorporation is in companies house webcheck accessible by anyone if you know where to look.

    • earthlinggb said, on January 9, 2014 at 6:36 pm

      Thank you Helen. 🙂

    • Simon Whiteside said, on January 9, 2014 at 7:33 pm

      Interesting – a commenter on the facebook page said they’d rung TPV and been tol that Sean had 100% of the shares..

  11. John Foley said, on January 9, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    Is all about post from a person who decided to work on TPV and then left..? I made 2 small donations even though i do not agree with all Icke says…I though it was important to give it a shot …I was not impressed in how they continued to ask for a higher target to start, business plan must have been in place..Wembley would not have been my place for TPV…
    I do feel more important issues are out there that this blog could cover instead of making a very big deal on TPV and David Icke…Using Jim Will Fix It to gain hits is not the answer.

    • earthlinggb said, on January 9, 2014 at 6:44 pm

      John, I’ve written for years now on the important stuff. No-one wants to read and then create an actionable organisation to use it. You get to a point you don’t take it seriously anymore and when you find that a guy who you once considered plausible with the obvious exceptions, is as bad as the people he speaks of (well not quite as bad but just as cunning and non transparent and manipulative) you feel compelled to let people know. We KNOW who the enemy is but many do not recognise the pitfalls of falling into step with a man they believe (wrongly) to be the epitome of truth. That is why it is important as I see it.

  12. george.w said, on January 9, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    Isle of white connection

    is the fear and clothing store aware there is a shop on the Isle of white selling the peoples voice t shirts

    Exclusive ‘Fear And Clothing’ T-Shirt Raises £20,000 For The People’s Voice!
    Update November 2013:

    Well it’s now the end of November and the T-shirt perks which were promised still have not been printed, at least not by us!
    I sincerely hope that TPV will be in touch soon so we can go ahead with production

    http://www.fearandclothing.com/fear-and-clothing-supports-the-peoples-voice/

    ……………………………………..
    Fresh Prints
    1 High Street
    Sandown
    Isle of Wight
    England
    PO36 8LX

    hello@freshprints.eu
    01983 409790

    https://freshprints.eu/

  13. Predrag said, on January 9, 2014 at 11:57 pm

    No one is addressing the key point though…

  14. Predrag said, on January 10, 2014 at 12:39 am

    All this talk about who spend what and who pocketed what will soon be irrelevant. Why? Because when the flurry is over, when it’s done burning through £500K and after TPV wraps up it’s flamboyant operation at the end of February or March – all the faithful followers will be hit with a rock of reality in the head asking:

    “Who’s idea was it to build the Titanic in the beginning, when any fool could see that the Titanic was not sustainable?”

    Who’s idea? It was David’s idea. And as he’s surrounded himself with YES MEN, no one dare challenge him or they’d be out the door. You either buy into his vanity project, or get stuffed.

    Could it have been planned with a smaller operation? Yes. Could a smaller operation achieve the same content output? Yes. At a quarter of the set-up and running costs? Yes. To the end receiver of the content, it doesn’t matter how big your studio is, how many staff you have or how expensive and impressive your kit looks. It’s not a TV channel – it’s streaming online – there is a big difference.

    TPV is like an unemployed guy (we’ll call him Terry) who wins the football pools, falls into a few thousand quid, 50 large to be precise, and decides he’ll moves into a 5 bedroom Mayfair townhouse, He pays the first and last month’s rent,deposit, buy lots of fancy furniture, modern art for the walls, Hi-Fi, home threatre system, a jacuzzi, fills the fridge with beer, invites all his mates around, which ends up being a 24/7 party. Bands show-up and reherse in the living room. So he decides to convert one of the bedrooms to a recording studio for the band. Terry even had hisown in-house coke dealer. Everyone is having a blast. So he decides to hire a cook, maid and a butler to help manage the massive property. He decides he really wants to start a company and work from home, so he converts another bedroom into an office, with computers and telecoms, even hires a secretary. Terry’s even convinced a few of his mates to quit their jobs and come work for him at the townhouse, and hang out with the band in the studio. The townhouse is becoming a real hive of activity! All his mates, and many new mates are all commenting to him, “Wow, this place is amazing. There’s a real buzz here. So much potential!”

    Two months later, Terry checks his bank balance. He is shocked to find out that he’s down to his last £1000 quid! Hardly enough to pay the heating and electric bill due at the end of the month. He realises he’s up to his neck in overheads, so he asks all his mates to chip in and invest in his business to help keep the dream alive. Some chipped in, but others are shocked, asking him, “We thought you had this all sorted. Why did you move in here to this place and spend all this money so fast? How did you expect to carry on?”

    Still buzzing, drunk on all the attention he had received, Terry snapped at his mate and said, “Hey, I didn’t do all this for me, I DID IT FOR YOU. So, you come here every day, eat my food, drink my beer, enjoy all the parties, the chicks, watch movies on my plasma. I need more investors, man.Now it’s your turn to contribute, If I get evicted and have to hock all my kit, it will be your fault!”

    After raising 50K from his mates (100K in total), he eventually goes broke after another tow months and is forced to leave the Mayfair Townhouse. He bumps into the band in a bar a year later. The band asked him, “Hey Tezza, sorry to hear about the eviction”, to which Terry replied…

    “It was fun while it lasted though! Right?”

    (Eyes rolling)


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